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WHAT THE MAYAN ELDERS SAY ABOUT 2012 *PIC*

Posted By: Mourann <Send E-Mail>
Date: Monday, 17 March 2008, 3:37 p.m.



Greetings STAer's,
I received this today in an email. It may be old news to many of you, but I think it's interesting enough to post again. I am pleased to share it with you all.
Respectfully,
~Mourann

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"They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed." Carlos Barrios

The Mayan Calendar - The World Will Not End

CARLOS BARRIOS was born into a Spanish family on El Altiplano, the highlands of Guatemala. His home was in Huehuetenango, also the dwelling place of the Maya Mam tribe. With other Maya and other indigenous tradition keepers, the Mam carry part of the old ways on Turtle Island (North America). They are keepers of time, authorities on remarkable calendars that are ancient, elegant and relevant.

Mr. Barrios is a historian, an anthropologist and investigator. After studying with traditional elders for 25 years since the age of 19, he has also became a Mayan Ajq'ij, a ceremonial priest and spiritual guide, Eagle Clan.

Years ago, along with his brother, Gerardo, Carlos initiated an investigation into the different Mayan calendars. He studied with many teachers. He says his brother Gerardo interviewed nearly 600 traditional Mayan elders to widen their scope of knowledge.

"Anthropologists visit the temple sites," Mr. Barrios says, "and read the steles and inscriptions and make up stories about the Maya, but they do not read the signs correctly. It's just their imagination... Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed. The indigenous have the calendars, and know how to accurately interpret it, not others."

The Mayan Calendars comprehension of time, seasons, and cycles has proven itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya understand 17 different calendars, some of them charting time accurately over a span of more than ten million years. The calendar that has steadily drawn global attention since 1987 is called the Tzolk'in or Cholq'ij. Devised ages ago and based on the cycle of the Pleiades, it is still held as sacred.

With the indigenous calendars, native people have kept track of important turning points in history. For example, the Daykeepers who study the calendars identified an important day in the year One Reed, Ce Acatal, as it was called by the Mexicans. That was the day when an important ancestor was prophesied to return, "coming like a butterfly." In the western calendar, the One Reed date correlates to Easter Sunday, April 21, 1519 the day that Hernando Cortez and his fleet of 11 Spanish galleons arrived from the East at what is today called Vera Cruz, Mexico. When the Spanish ships came toward shore, native people were waiting and watching to see how it would go. The billowing sails of the ships did indeed remind the scouts of butterflies skimming the ocean surface.

In this manner was a new era initiated, an era they had anticipated through their calendars. The Maya termed the new era the Nine Bolomtikus, or nine Hells of 52 years each. As the nine cycles unfolded, land and freedom were taken from the native people. Disease and disrespect dominated. What began with the arrival of Cortez, lasted until August 16, 1987 - a date many people recall as Harmonic Convergence. Millions of people took advantage of that date to make ceremony in sacred sites, praying for a smooth transition to a new era, the World of the Fifth Sun.

From that 1987 date until now, Mr. Barrios says, we have been in a time when the right arm of the materialistic world is disappearing, slowly but inexorably. We are at the cusp of the era when peace begins, and people live in harmony with Mother Earth. We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun. This is the time in-between, the time of transition.

As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes. All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the simple, spiral mathematics of the Mayan calendars. "It will change," Mr. Barrios observes. "Everything will change." He said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from and signified by the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy.

At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life, a tree remembered in all the world's spiritual traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration.

This process has already begun, Mr. Barrios suggested. "Change is accelerating now, and it will continue to accelerate." If
the people of the earth can get to this 2012 date in good shape, without having destroyed too much of the Earth, Mr. Barrios said, we will rise to a new, higher level. But to get there we must transform enormously powerful forces that seek to block the way.

A Picture of the Road Ahead

From his understanding of the Mayan tradition and the calendars, Mr. Barrios offered a picture of where we are at and hat may lie on the road ahead: The date specified in the calendar Winter Solstice in the year 2012 does not mark the end of the world. Many outside people writing about the Mayan calendar sensationalize this date, but they do not know. The ones who know are the indigenous elders who are entrusted with keeping the tradition.

"Humanity will continue," he contends, "but in a different way. Material structures will change. From this we will have the opportunity to be more human." We are living in the most important era of the Mayan calendars and prophecies. All the prophecies of the world, all the traditions, are converging now. There is no time for games. The spiritual ideal of this era is action. Many powerful souls have reincarnated in this era, with a lot of power. This is true on both sides, the light and the dark. High magic is at work on both sides.

Things will change, but it is up to the people how difficult or easy it is for the changes to come about. The economy now is
a fiction. The first five-year stretch of transition from August 1987 to August 1992 was the beginning of the destruction of the material world. We have progressed ten years deeper into the transition phase by now, and many of the so-called sources of financial stability are in fact hollow. The banks are weak. This is a delicate moment for them. They could crash globally if we don't pay attention. If the banks crash ... then we will be forced to rely on the land and our skills. The monetary systems will be in chaos, and we must then rely on our direct relationship with the Earth for our food and shelter. The North and South Poles are both breaking up. The level of the water in the oceans is going to rise. But at the same time land in the ocean, especially near Cuba, is also going to rise.

A Call for Fusion

As he met with audiences in Santa Fe, Mr. Barrios told a story about the most recent Mayan New Year ceremonies in Guatemala. He said that one respected Mam elder, who lives all year in a solitary mountain cave, journeyed to Chichicastenango to speak with the people at the ceremony. The elder delivered a simple, direct message. He called for human beings to come together in support of life and light. Right now each person and group is going his or her own way. The elder of the mountains said there is hope if the people of the light can come together and unite in some way.

Reflecting on this, Mr. Barrios explained: "We live in a world of polarity: day and night, man and woman, positive and negative. Light and darkness need each other. They are a balance. Just now the dark side is very strong, and very clear about what they want. They have their vision and their priorities clearly held, and also their hierarchy. They are working in many ways so that we will be unable to connect with the spiral Fifth World in 2012."

"On the light side everyone thinks they are the most important, that their own understandings, or their group's understandings, are the key. There's a diversity of cultures and opinions, so there is competition, diffusion, and no single focus." As Mr. Barrios sees it, the dark side works to block fusion through denial and materialism. It also works to destroy those who are working with the light to get the Earth to a higher level.

They like the energy of the old, declining Fourth World, the materialism. They do not want it to change. They do not want fusion. They want to stay at this level, and are afraid of the next level. The dark power of the declining Fourth World cannot be destroyed or overpowered. It's too strong and clear for that, and that is the wrong strategy. The dark can only be transformed when confronted with simplicity and open-heartedness. This is what leads to fusion, a key concept for the World of the Fifth Sun.

Mr. Barrios said the emerging era of the Fifth Sun will call attention to a much-overlooked element. Whereas the four traditional elements of earth, air, fire and water have dominated various epochs in the past, there will be a fifth element to reckon with in the time of the Fifth Sun: ether. The dictionary defines ether as the rarefied element of the Heavens. Ether is a medium. It permeates all space and transmits waves of energy in a wide range of frequencies, from cell phones to human
auras. What is "ethereal" is related to the regions beyond earth: the heavens.

Ether the element of the Fifth Sun is celestial and lacking in material substance, but is no less real than wood, stone or flesh. "Within the context of ether there can be a fusion of the polarities," Mr. Barrios said. "No more darkness or light in the people, but an uplifted fusion. But right now the realm of darkness is not interested in this. They are organized to block it. They seek to unbalance the Earth and its environment so we will be unready for the alignment in 2012. We need to work together for peace, and balance with the other side. We need to take care of the Earth that feeds and shelters us. We need to put our
entire mind and heart into pursuing unity and fusion now, to confront the other side and preserve life."

To be Ready for this Moment in History Mr. Barrios told his audiences in Santa Fe that we are at a critical moment of world history. "We are disturbed," he said. "We can't play anymore. Our planet can be renewed or ravaged. Now is the time to awaken and take action." "Everyone is needed. You are not here for no reason. Everyone who is here now has an important purpose. This is a hard, but a special time. We have the opportunity for growth, but we must be ready for this moment in history."

Mr. Barrios offered a number of suggestions to help people walk in balance through the years ahead. "The prophesied changes are going to happen," he said "but our attitude and actions determine how harsh or mild they are." We need to act, to make changes, and to elect people to represent us who understand and who will take political action to respect the earth. Meditation and spiritual practice are good, but also action. It's very important to be clear about who you are, and also
about your relation to the Earth. Develop yourself according to your own tradition and the call of your heart. But remember to respect differences, and strive for unity. Eat wisely. A lot of food is corrupt in either subtle or gross ways. Pay attention to what you are taking into your body. Learn to preserve food, and to conserve energy. Learn some good breathing techniques, so you have mastery of your breath. Be clear. Follow a tradition with great roots. It is not important what tradition, your heart will tell you, but it must have great roots. We live in a world of energy. An important task at this time is to learn to sense or see the energy of everyone and everything: people, plants, animals. This becomes increasingly important as we draw close to the World of the Fifth Sun, for it is associated with the element ether - the realm where energy lives and weaves.

Go to the sacred places of the earth to pray for peace, and have respect for the Earth which gives us our food, clothing, and shelter. We need to reactivate the energy of these sacred places. That is our work.

* According to Mr. Barrios' reading of the Mayan calendar, if war happens in November 2002 or after, then it's bad, but not catastrophic. But if it happens between April and November 2003, it will be catastrophic. Really bad. It could eventually result in the death of two-thirds of humanity. "So stay active," he said. "If we are active, we can transform the planet. The elders watch to see what happens." Many Mayan elders and knowledge keepers may be eliminated in the next
few years. For the first half of the current Katun (20-year period) the dark side has a lot of power. But that will pass 3 to 4 years from now. The tide can turn. Amazing things are going to happen. One simple but effective prayer technique is to light a white or baby-blue colored candle. Think a moment in peace. Speak your intention to the flame and send the light of it on to the leaders who have the power to make war or peace.

We Have Work to Do

According to Mr. Barrios this is a crucially important moment for humanity, and for earth. Each person is important. If you have incarnated into this era, you have spiritual work to do balancing the planet. He said the elders have opened the doors so
that other races can come to the Mayan world to receive the tradition. The Maya have long appreciated and respected that there are other colors, other races, and other spiritual systems. "They know," he said, "that the destiny of the Mayan world is related to the destiny of the whole world."

"The greatest wisdom is in simplicity," Mr. Barrios advised before leaving Santa Fe. "Love, respect, tolerance, sharing, gratitude, forgiveness. It's not complex or elaborate. The real knowledge is free. It's encoded in your DNA. All you need is within you. Great teachers have said that from the beginning. Find your heart, and you will find your way."
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Carlos Barrios is the author of Kam Wuj: El Libro del Destino, a book published in Spanish that explores Mayan teachings.
He is looking for a way to have the book translated and published in English. Mr. Barrios can be contacted via Saq1 Be1 – Organization for Mayan and Indigenous Spiritual Studies: HCR 72, Box 142, Ribera, NM 87560 USA
http://www.sacredroad.org

Reference:
http://www.mayamysteryschool.com/pdf%20 ... arrios.pdf



http://www.psifly.com/cr2/index.php?top ... #msg139881
Time of the Sixth Sun
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Nice little trailer...


http://www.timeofthesixthsun.com/index. ... &Itemid=39


For Asiel..
http://www.timeofthesixthsun.com
They could very well be referring to the magnetic pole shift & ice age that happens every 150,000 years.
The timing of the Iraq war isn't too good for the timeframes mentioned. If there was ever a war that illustrated materialism, it is the one. Maybe the religious right will get their Armageddon after all. Hence all the big players digging deep holes in which to live comfortably while the radiation subsides.
aside from the standard stuff presented, was this curiousity

"/.......The level of the water in the oceans is going to rise.
But at the same time land in the ocean,
especially near Cuba,
is also going to rise. .... "

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Has the Mayan Universe as Electric Time Circuit (Arguelles) been linked to the Electric Universe research ? This would also match with the 5th Age and Element as Aether as mentioned in the article (was anyone thinking of the film "The Fifth Element" when they read that?).

Reading this forum thread got me feeling. This is all a major trick of the dark side - to carry out this huge conjuring trick with our view of the Universe. Literally obscuring entire Galaxies. Black Holes throw shadows across the electric currents that make Hunab Ku - a circuit of mind, time and consciousness flowing between us, the Sun and the Galactic Center. Tendrils of this flow are explained away by bringing in "winds" and all sorts of peculiar phenomena. There are no Black Holes. There is no "Dark Matter", only what some of us try to avoid - a Universe that is alive and that runs on the same stuff that our own consciousnesses run on. This is real and being revealed now. This is 2012. The impossible made manifest. Yet that impossible was here all along.
There was a dvd next to my son while he was playing a game on his tv... I hadn't felt like sitting down and watching a movie with him in years-I've been renting dvds at the Red Box lately but usually I'm flitting around all ADD-not sitting and enjoying an entire movie at home with him (that's why we go to theaters-I'm trapped and have to sit still through them) and it was all about the 'dust'... very strange movie... 'the dust' was illegal to talk about with the Magisterium who controlled all on their planet-but they talked of a parallel planet affected by this dust. I thought it was like 'dust of knowledge' or 'dust of enlightenment'...

here's the first comment off the forum that wook posted the link to above-

Quote:What is at the "Very" centre of the galaxy?

New postby Maddogkull » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:47 pm
Of course main stream science says a black hole is there and the brightness is caused by accretion of dust (I think). Now what are PC theories? It is probably of some sort of electrical/plasma nature? But what is at the very centre? Is it just highly magnetic?

Maddogkull

The movie is called The Golden Compass The compass was a trip too. Worthwhile movie to watch-came out in 2008.. had the armored Polar Bear in it.
http://care.yuku.com/topic/94
The Evolution of Consciousness- MAX IGAN (PART ONE)
& part 2
What ?! I don't get that at all.

The Sun is at it's lowest.

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The Electric Universe people have convinced me that there is NOT a black hole at the center of the Galaxy. We're being taken for a ride by the nihilists folks. The energy is being ported down those Galactic lines. It makes sense once you see events in these terms. Meanwhile the nihilists want you to join their denial fest where they throw custard pies at 2012 believers.
I had to post this.

"Some networks will be organised in virtual brain systemizing not only existed knowledge, but will make important decisions, solve social problems, others will operate as social conscience, virtual “immune”, “digestive”, “muscle” etc systems of the future netocratic society."

http://www.netocracy.org.uk/self-governing.htm

This period from 1990 to 2012 and beyond will be known as a huge shift. Sometimes where you are too close to something you can't see what it is, like having your nose up against a skyscraper. But sometimes a glimpse of the hugeness of it all is seen, and the that person ... me .. tries to point it out to his fellows.

The Maya are Galactic Astrologers. Their careful astronomical measuring of this Galactic Alignment is much like predicting the Full Moon. It is not "mystical" or some airy fairy "prediction", but it just is ... like a forest IS or a stream IS. The electrical and geomagnetic energy changes are similar to what happens at the time of the Full Moon. Greater Psi Awareness has been measured at a Full Moon (see The Conscious Universe). The effect of changed and increased electrical and geomagnetic energies has been measured. They effect living systems, so we are being shifted from the Fourth (Industrial Age) world to the Fifth World (Post Industrial). This is no longer an issue of belief. The signs are all around us and the Science can prove all this as real.
http://www.amazon.com/World-Peril-Scien ... 1883218101
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=72586&page=63
Quote: was just watching a program on TV when the program interviewed a person.
His statement sent a chill down my spine when I realized the importance of his claim.

2012: Startling New Secrets on SyFy

It is this segment I'm speaking of, not the entire show.

THE HISTORY OF THE MAGNETIC POLE SHIFT INVESTIGATION

Now we're hearing testimony from a pilot, Ken White, talking about the US assessing the potential threat of Soviet attacks after World War II. This involved spy-plane flights over the North Pole to take measurements and observe. Magnetic North caused compass navigation not to be so easily done -- they had to use magnetic grids instead.

In the process of discovering this new system, White found that the magnetic north pole was 200 miles north of where they expected it to be. This was the beginning of the scholarship around the idea that the Earth's magnetic pole is undergoing a rapid shift at this time in our history -- it is already underway now. This is a compelling piece of testimony to bring in for sure.

Dr. Paul Cycle headed up Pentagon and RAND Corporation studies on the idea of a magnetic pole shift that could end up happening to us. A magnetic polar flip would trigger all sorts of cataclysms -- this is the worst-case scenario for many 2012 believers. Hoagland believes the Earth as a whole would literally tip over on its side. Patrick Geryl then chimes in with a third cataclysmic scenario -- a solar flare wiping out the Earth.

Ken White said, from he and his father's own firsthand interactions with them, that the Pentagon debated what to do with the information about a potential pole shift in 1948. They were afraid that releasing the data might "destroy the moral fibers" of everyone on Earth. He and his father, Maynard E. White, wrote a book called World in Peril to alert people about the potential for a polar flip.

He believes the Pentagon was afraid of triggering a public panic by releasing the information. The Pentagon was contacted and was unable to confirm whether he went to any meetings there in '47 or '48. They also did not confirm or deny anything about whether a pole shift would happen or not.

World in Peril: The Origin , Mission & Scientific Findings of the 46th / 72nd Reconnaissance Squadron ~ Ken White (Author)

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While looking in to this story, I came across quite a bit of similar claims and, believe the ramifications for humanity are great. Is it possible that GLOBAL WARMING FEARS are a cover story? Is it plausible that the recent BANKING COLLAPSE was another cover story, simply to justify the vast amounts of money needed to complete preparations, in secret, for a select few ?

Here are a few links, unrelated to the program above yet, offer a similar view.

North Pole in ‘Peril’ ~ The global warming alarmists are out again.

Polar bears resort to cannibalism as Arctic ice shrinks

Polar Shift 1/2 - Saoshyant, H.H. Alexandra Hehpsehboah

Polar Shift 2/2 -Saoshyant, HH Alexandra Hehpsehboah

~@~

I encourage everyone to examine Maynard E. White's book called World in Peril

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Bearing in mind the dangers of clarity, I can see that the pole shift is not something that will be geographically cataclysmic. I have something somewhere that I'll have to dig out. The shift is in mind which is the effect many transfer onto "cataclysms". Why ? Because mind shifting is not easy, It can be painful. I sympathise, but that is where it is happening.
Quote:Bearing in mind the dangers of clarity, I can see that the pole shift is not something that will be geographically cataclysmic. I have something somewhere that I'll have to dig out. The shift is in mind which is the effect many transfer onto "cataclysms". Why ? Because mind shifting is not easy, It can be painful. I sympathise, but that is where it is happening.


and the shift has already happened or is happening right now and nobody notices it... yet.
I wonder if The Shift is isolated to The West and the rest of the world has already been on the other side for a while now.