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Google is just an amoral menace

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... net-piracy

The ever-growing empire produces nothing but seems determined to control everything
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If indeed a new era of global responsibility has come into being with measures that actually restrain banks and isolate tax havens, it may be time for the planet's dominant economic powers to focus on the destructive, anti-civic forces of the internet. Exactly 20 years after Sir Tim Berners-Lee wrote the blueprint for the world wide web, the internet has become the host to a small number of dangerous WWMs - worldwide monopolies that sweep all before them with exuberant contempt for people's rights, their property and the past.

Google is the most prominent WWM, but let's start with an American site that is making a name for itself in straightforward misappropriation.

Despite the aura of heroic young enterprise that still miraculously attaches to the web, what we are seeing is a much older and toxic statist-"capitalist" model - the classic monopoly that destroys industries and individual enterprise in its bid for ever greater profits. Despite its diversification, Google is in the final analysis a parasite that creates nothing, merely offering little aggregation, lists and the ordering of information generated by people who have invested their capital, skill and time. On the back of the labor of others it makes vast advertising revenues - in the final quarter of last year its revenues were $5.7bn, and it currently sits on a cash pile of $8.6bn. Its monopolistic tendencies took an extra twist this weekend with rumors that it may buy the micro-blogging site Twitter.

One of the chief casualties of the web revolution is the newspaper business, which now finds itself laden with debt (not Google's fault) and having to give its content free to the search engine in order to survive. Newspapers can of course remove their content but then their own advertising revenues and profiles decline. In effect they are being held captive and tormented by their executioner, who has the gall to insist that the relationship is mutually beneficial. Were newspapers to combine to take on Google they would be almost certainly in breach of competition law.

In 1787 Thomas Jefferson wrote: "Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate to prefer the latter." A moment's thought must tell us that he is still right: honestly written newspapers are the only means of holding local hospitals, schools, councils and the police to account, and on a national level they are absolutely essential for the good functioning of real democracy.

If, at a time of profound challenges, newspapers fall out with Google, it could be pretty serious for society, which is why I referred earlier to anti-civic forces. Of course the company founded by Sergey Brin and Larry Page in 1998 - now reckoned to be the world's most powerful brand - does not offer any substitute for the originators of content nor does it allow this to touch its corporate conscience. That is probably because one detects in Google something that is delinquent and sociopathic, perhaps the character of a nightmarish 11-year-old.

This particular 11-year-old has known nothing but success and does not understand the risks, skill and failure involved in the creation of original content, nor the delicate relationships that exist outside its own desires and experience. There is a brattish, clever amorality about Google that allows it to censor the pages on its Red Chinese service without the slightest self doubt, store vast quantities of unnecessary information about every Google search, and menace the delicate instruments of democratic scrutiny. And, naturally, it did not exercise Google executives that Street View not only invaded the privacy of millions and made the job of burglars easier but somehow laid claim to Britain's civic spaces. How gratifying to hear of the villagers of Broughton, Bucks, who prevented the Google van from taking pictures of their homes.

We could do worse than follow their example for this brat needs to be stopped in its tracks, paddled harshly and taught about the responsibilities it owes to society.

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fuck google, i have been having trouble accessing this site lately, the culprit: google. it seems that google is trying to block my access by throwing up a page that says accessing this site might harm my computer. its a royal pain in the ass. sometimes i have to try 20 times to get past their shit that i didnt ask for and dont want.
Quote:fuck google, i have been having trouble accessing this site lately, the culprit: google. it seems that google is trying to block my access by throwing up a page that says accessing this site might harm my computer. its a royal pain in the ass. sometimes i have to try 20 times to get past their shit that i didnt ask for and dont want.


really? damn almon! can't you block it? I've been using http://www.ixquick.com/ and it is just fine for me.

I won't do a google ever again-time for us to ban the search engines in here again too-I don't like any of them snooping but realize there has to be some updated mention of our site every now and then.

eta: the creepy google [bot] is in here right now-I'll ban it in your honor right now almon.

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seems like search engines worked much better 15 years ago. does anyone remember how it was to search for something and to get results only related to what you searched for?
I do recall a particular search engine over 10 years ago which I thought worked great...Infoseek.
Supposedly it used special "ESP doink-head"...
I found that returns depended upon the order of the search words.
I remember being amazed by entering a nonsense phrase..."toothbrush noodle sweet"...and getting a site with a play about a Polish girl brushing her teeth for the first time!!!
I remember when Google first started...endless reams of garbage......
Hi folks,

What kind of communist BS is this article?

Quote:On the back of the labor of others it makes vast advertising revenues - in the final quarter of last year its revenues were $5.7bn, and it currently sits on a cash pile of $8.6bn. Its monopolistic tendencies took an extra twist this weekend with rumors that it may buy the micro-blogging site Twitter

What? I call it capitalism, you know the only system in the world that actually works for we have tried socialism and it didnt, we have tried fascism and it didnt, we have tried everything else and it didnt. But I digress. Google is in business of making money for its share holders, and it is doing exactly that. Don't blame it for its success, don't like it, go use yahoo and its pathetic search engine with screen full of ads.

This article is nothing more than socialist propagands of people rising up against big and evil corporations and overthrowing it, for purpose or future plan unknown.

Google maps is great and convenient. Street view is awesome, it helps me see where i'm going before I leave. Google earth is fun. Google search engine works great if you know what ty type in. Twitter, email, and all other crap is good but totally optional.

Bottom line is, however, Google is a company that does not product anything tangeble. Which is why I will not buy its stock, but other than that its a great company that does good things. If you're into the whole 1984, consentrate on more immediate things than google. You know, things like pharma companies supressing peoples ability to think individually.
Quote:Google maps is great and convenient. Street view is awesome, it helps me see where i'm going before I leave. Google earth is fun. Google search engine works great if you know what ty type in. Twitter, email, and all other crap is good but totally optional.

Bottom line is, however, Google is a company that does not product anything tangeble. Which is why I will not buy its stock...

Have you ever looked into what Google did to make Streetview possible?
They had fleets of cars (Chevy Cobalts in the US) equipped with complicated pan-cams mounted on the roof driving up and down streets taking pictures every 30 feet or so.
What's strange is the way you can more-or-less seamlessly transition between Google Earth imagery and Streetview.
I have Comcast and it is good most of the time,
and it seems to let google work well too.

I get a lot of mileage from google search.
this may help you all, especially in science related researches,
use
google images, more than the web selection.

I will take google search any day over any of the others I have seen.
I don't see them as "evil empire corporate scourges",
evil is Monsanto and evilbay.
Quote:In 1999, Infoseek engineer Li Yanhong moved to Beijing, China and co-founded the Baidu search engine .

I shall look at this..."Baidu"......
The Chinese have long been mathematical geniuses and masters of inference.

Have you ever used Kartoo???
http://www.kartoo.com/
At present it's slow but the visual results are beyond dry linear search returns, and it points to new ways of navigating in cyberspace.