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Left Behind - Jesus Came. What's Next?
Further details on life during the Tribulation
By Dr. David Reagan

If you are reading this because millions of people have suddenly and mysteriously disappeared, then you are looking for answers to what has happened, why it has happened, and what will be happening next.

What Has Happened
First, as to what has happened - Jesus Christ, the Son of God, has returned.

For 2000 years the Bible has been proclaiming to the world that Jesus would be coming back. Jesus stated in John 14:3, "I will come back."

Because Jesus has returned, millions of people who have put their faith and trust in Jesus as Savior, accepting His free gift of salvation, have disappeared in an event called the Rapture.

You might be thinking that there was something mysterious in the sudden disappearance of millions of people, but the Bible has already explained this so-called mystery. Jesus said that when He came again, He would come for those who are saved. He said, "I will receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also" (John 14:1-4). The Apostle Paul put it this way: "Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet" (1 Corinthians 15:51-52).

The Rapture happened to those of us who accepted Jesus as Savior, both those alive and those who had died since Jesus was resurrected. Both groups - living and resurrected believers - were caught up to be with Him in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18).

This all happened very quickly, like a flash of lightning. Jesus left as suddenly as He came, taking those who have accepted Him and His salvation, and leaving behind those who have rejected Him. And you, sadly, have been left behind.

Well, maybe you know a loved one who has disappeared - a wife, a husband, a child, a friend - and are wondering what has become of them. In that flash, as those who had accepted Jesus as their Savior were caught up to meet Jesus in the air, they traded their earthly bodies for bodies that are perfect, imperishable and immortal (1 Corinthians 15:42-44, 50-55).

They sit with Jesus now in Heaven at a great banquet called the "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" (Revelation 19). They will live in great joy and know no sorrow. They will be with their King and live in love forever. They are well taken care of, and you don't have to worry about them.

Why It Has Happened
But, it is the why of the disappearances that is your cause to worry. For believers in Jesus were taken out of this world to spare them from the great wrath that has just begun to befall the planet (Romans 5:9; 1 Thessalonians 1:10; 5:9).

Jesus' return for all His true believers was just a prelude to His final Second Coming. The second phase of Jesus' return is to set up His Kingdom on earth. Jesus' Kingdom is why this whole thing is happening.

You see, we have come to the end of one age and will soon be beginning the age of Jesus' glorious reign right here on earth. But first, God has to deal with rebellion - sin - before setting up His Kingdom. God's going to use this intermediate time period you now live in to pour out His wrath on mankind for its continued refusal to accept His Lordship. The time you live in is called the Tribulation.

What It's About
What is the Tribulation all about? The unparalleled horror of the Tribulation is spelled out in detail in both the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament. Isaiah wrote that it will be a day of "the terror of the Lord" when "the pride of men will be abased" (Isaiah 2:10,17,19). Zephaniah proclaimed that it will be a "day of wrath," "a day of trouble and distress," and "a day of destruction and desolation." Men will stumble around like they are blind and "their blood will be poured out like dust" (Zephaniah 1:15,17).

This dreary picture is echoed in the New Testament. Jesus said it will be a time of tribulation "such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall." In fact, Jesus said it will be so terrible that if it were not stopped at the end of seven years, it would result in the destruction of all life (Matthew 24:21-22).

The Apostle John states that the chaos will be so great that the leaders of the world will crawl into caves and cry out for the rocks of the mountains to fall upon them (Revelation 6:15-16).

Why is there going to be such carnage? How could a God of grace, mercy and love allow such an outbreak of unbridled terror and bloodshed?

One reason is to satisfy the justice of God. Yes, God is characterized by grace, mercy and love. God is a God of love. Jesus says so in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life."

But, God is also a God of justice. The Bible also says in John 3:36, "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." It is God's very nature to love, but also in love to see justice done for evil.

What Comes Next
So, what comes next? For starters, people are going to try to explain away the Rapture with all sorts of wild theories, like possibly Global Warming or UFOs. So-called "Christian" leaders are going to come out and say the Church is still around because they didn't disappear.

Jesus said in Matthew 24:24 that they cannot be believed, for the times will be filled with false religious teachers. The greatest of these false teachers the Bible calls the False Prophet, and he will seemingly be able to do many miracles and will promote a one-world religion and leader (Revelation 13:11).

Amid all the chaos from the Rapture, the Bible teaches that the world will turn to a dynamic leader to bring order and peace (Revelation 6:1-2). He will succeed where no other person has been able in establishing a peace treaty for Israel (Daniel 9:27). That treaty marks the official beginning of the 7 years that the Tribulation will last.

But, the world leader, known to believers in Jesus as the Antichrist, is anything but peaceful. He will plunge the planet into nuclear world war, resulting in terrible famines, pestilence and mass death. Violence, disease and starvation will be a way of life. A quarter of the world population - almost 2 billion people - will die from this war (Revelation 6).

In Jerusalem, 2 men will appear and preach there for 3 1/2 years that Jesus is the Messiah the Jews have been looking for (Revelation 11:3). 144,000 Jews will call Jesus their Messiah and also preach about Him throughout the whole world. Millions will accept Jesus as their Savior - hopefully you will be one of them. But, many of those millions of believers will be killed by the Antichrist for not pledging their loyalty to him by receiving his mark on either their right hand or forehead. The persecution of believers in Jesus will be awful in the Tribulation (Daniel 7:22; Revelation 7).

Next, the greatest earthquake the world has yet experienced will devastate the planet (Revelation 6:12-14). Something falling from space will then burn up a third of all the world's vegetation. A second item from space, probably a meteor, will crash into the ocean and annihilate a third of the world's marine life and ships. A third object from space will taint the world's water supply, poisoning millions (Revelation 8:7-11).

The devastation to the atmosphere will block out most of the sun and moonlight so that the days appear shorter (Revelation 8:12).

Next, some supernatural "woes" will befall mankind. First, the holding place for a demonic hoard is opened and millions of locust-looking demons pour out and sting people like scorpions. The pain will last 5 whole months. Second, 200 million riders on horse-creatures will burn and impale, wiping out a remaining third of the people (Revelation 9:1-19).

Three and a half years into the Tribulation will see the 2 men witnessing in Jerusalem killed, but 3 1/2 days later come back to life (Revelation 11:7-12). It will also see the Antichrist supposedly killed and appear to come back to life as well (Revelation 13:3).

And that's just the first half of the Tribulation. As bad as the first half of the seven years is, the next half is even worse (Revelation 16).

Those who take the Antichrist's loyalty mark on their hand or forehead will suffer from painful boils. Those who don't take the mark will be cut off from commerce and hunted down, but the Bible assures (Revelation 20:4-6) that those who take the mark have made a decision that will last forever - eternal damnation - so don't take it!

The oceans and everything in them are totally destroyed, as well as all the fresh water. The heat from the sun will become scorching. The Antichrist's kingdom will fall into pitch darkness.

An even greater earthquake than the one 7 years earlier will flatten the earth and 100 pound hailstones will crush the inhabitants.

The Euphrates River in Iraq will dry up and a massive army from the East will cross and enter the Valley of Armageddon in Israel to fight the Antichrist's army. This is what the Book of Revelation calls the battle of Armageddon.

It is the moment that Jesus will gloriously return with all those who disappeared in the Rapture. Jesus Himself by just speaking will destroy the armies at Armageddon. Jesus will throw the Antichrist and the False Prophet into Hell, and Satan into a deep pit. Jesus will be victorious and all who continued to rebel will be put to death - all of them (Revelation 19:11-21; 20:1-3). This is the Tribulation - the wrath of God.

What You Can Do
Now, you may be asking "God, why didn't you tell us all this before the Rapture so we could get ready." Well, He did. The Bible clearly teaches that God never pours out His wrath without warning for He is a just and loving God who does not wish that any should perish. That is why God provided the Bible, the Good News about Jesus spreading across the planet, and the many signs alerting us to the fact that we were living on the threshold of the Tribulation and soon return of Jesus Christ. God gave the world every possible chance for 2000 years to repent of its rebellion and return to Him.

But, it's not too late for you to be with Jesus unless you've taken the mark. You see, this story has a happy ending. Jesus' return at the end of the Tribulation means great joy to those who love him. Jesus will cleanse the world of evil and the damages from His wrath and restore the planet to pristine condition. Jesus will rule from Jerusalem over those who throughout human history have put their faith and trust in Him (Revelation 20:4-6,9).

You can be one of those people. Whether you die in the Tribulation or not, it is where you end up eternally that truly matters. Everybody who does not accept Jesus as Savior during the Tribulation will go to Hell for their rebellion. Anyone who accepts Jesus as Savior, though their earthly bodies may die during the Tribulation, will then live forever in glorified bodies with Jesus in His love and glory.

Remember Jesus' promise in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life." Pray now for forgiveness for your sins and ask Jesus to be the Savior and Lord of your life. Don't delay!

In what little time you have in this life, get a Bible or download one from, so you know God's will for your life. Download this and everything you can from our website at or others like so you can know more about Jesus and what is in store for you in the Tribulation and the glorious return of Jesus. Gather quickly with others who have accepted Jesus as Savior for support and to worship together.

If you have accepted Jesus as your Savior, we will be waiting for you on the other side of this. May God bless you and keep you. Maranatha!

"The LORD is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him." (Nahum 1:7 NIV)
There was no prediction of any rapture until the 1700's then ......

Some notable rapture predictions include the following:
1792 - Shakers calculated this date.[citation needed]
1844 - William Miller predicted Christ would return between March 21, 1843 and March 21, 1844, then revised his prediction, claiming to have miscalculated Scripture, to October 22, 1844. The realization that the predictions were incorrect resulted in a Great Disappointment. Miller's theology gave rise to the Advent movement. The Baha'is believe that Christ did return as Miller predicted in 1844, with the advent of The Báb, and numerous Miller-like prophetic predictions from many religions are given in William Sears book, Thief in The Night.[48]
1977 - William M. Branham predicted in 1962 that the Rapture could take place by 1977[citation needed]
1981 - Chuck Smith predicted that Jesus would probably return by 1981.[49]
1988 - Publication of 88 Reasons why the Rapture is in 1988, by Edgar C. Whisenant.
1989 - Publication of The final shout: Rapture report 1989, by Edgar Whisenant. More predictions by this author appeared for 1992, 1995, and other years.
1992 - Korean group "Mission for the Coming Days" predicted October 28, 1992 as the date for the rapture.[50]
1993 - Seven years before the year 2000. The rapture would have to start to allow for seven years of the Tribulation before the Return in 2000. Multiple predictions.
1994 - Pastor John Hinkle of Christ Church in Los Angeles predicted June 9, 1994. Radio evangelist Harold Camping predicted September 27, 1994.[51]
2011 - Harold Camping's revised prediction has May 21, 2011 as the date of the rapture.[52]
2012 - The Mayan Long Count calendar ends a 5125-year cycle on December 21, 2012.[53] Some Christians such as Jack Van Impe[54] have associated this event with the Second Coming of Christ.[citation needed]
2060 - Sir Isaac Newton proposed, based upon his calculations using figures from the book of Daniel, that the Apocalypse could happen no earlier than 2060.[55][56].

Personally I will predict that the NWO guys will use the thinking of honest and good people to stage something that will create a big population reduction that those who survive will call it the rapture. It could be tipping a comet to hit earth to create a dust cloud to where most starve while they live safely underground for 7 years. Which may even create an ice age. Jesus was a man who studied meditation and mastered it. His thoughts are better explained at this website.
So now we are a prosletyzing forum complete with mangled interpretations of Revelations. Come to Jesus threads need to have a warning in the topic line so those of us who are offended by all the churchy stuff can skip it. It's bad enough to read Fox news threads all the time but that is just ignorance, this is something else.
That Rapture business was invented to make us afraid so we'd submit to bogus authorities.
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The only good it does is that the Mark of the Beast part will make people refuse to be chipped.
That is the reason I put cat fight on the title!!! I knew that you will not like it. I am just putting it up in case anyone is interested in this chaotic world in knowing what to expect. Some of these things are happening as we speak.
I don't want a cat fight. I just don't want some evangelist Christian constantly putting up threads trying to convert me. I don't think I want to read any more of your threads Mayito. You have chased me away. Now wasn't that a successful result for you? What would Jesus say if he knew you were chasing away converts? Why, you might find it is not his will and you would spend eternity burning in utter agony in hellfire courtesy of your loving God. Yes, eternal, excruciating torture is such a wonderful, kind, loving, helpful threat to make to all those beings you created and caused to be the way they are. Why, that means he knows who is going to burn and who isn't already, because he is God and knows everything!!! Thank you God for creating me so I can burn in hell forever after I die. Oh... but some Christians may be there too, because He picks his before they are even born and there isn't a damn thing you can do to change it. Wahh... Have a nice afterlife.
Chasing away converts? You said you are not a convert so how can I chase you away, you are chasing yourself away by denying God's plan and His Son Jesus, I dont convert anyone, I am just a messenger, I am a watchman, I present the message of God, it is up to you to accept it or reject it. I dont condemn you, why you take it out on me, God is the author of the book I am just a page.
I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

John 17:14-17 KJV

Those that hated Christ first, hate us now, it is not your fault that you hate me, is the blindfold the devil has put upon your eyes. I was like you many years ago, hating others because they spoke about Christ until my day came, maybe your day is coming and you must confront your own future.
Quote:I don't want a cat fight. I just don't want some evangelist Christian constantly putting up threads trying to convert me. I don't think I want to read any more of your threads Mayito. You have chased me away. Now wasn't that a successful result for you? What would Jesus say if he knew you were chasing away converts? Why, you might find it is not his will and you would spend eternity burning in utter agony in hellfire courtesy of your loving God. Yes, eternal, excruciating torture is such a wonderful, kind, loving, helpful threat to make to all those beings you created and caused to be the way they are. Why, that means he knows who is going to burn and who isn't already, because he is God and knows everything!!! Thank you God for creating me so I can burn in hell forever after I die. Oh... but some Christians may be there too, because He picks his before they are even born and there isn't a damn thing you can do to change it. Wahh... Have a nice afterlife.

excuse me
it's all about you and what you wish to read
The vast majority of the world's religions are little more than psychological blackmail.
Quote:The vast majority of the world's religions are little more than psychological blackmail.

but true.
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God certainly knows who will choose Him and who won't.
I always thought the choosing was ours, not withstanding the verse about the potter and the clay.
I think he does reject nations, but not individuals. It's up to the individual to reject God.
As far as a rapture goes, I think aceace meant a pre-trib rapture, as there has always been the promise of Christ's return for us at the end of the age. But in any case men are constantly trying to second guess the second coming, and therein lies the error. We cannot predict the day or hour.
If we are to be "caught up" to join Him, that is a rapture, whatever sequence it comes in.

BTW: I almost always know when a thread is going to involve a spiritual theme before I start reading it.
The title usually gives it away.
Looking at what is going on all around us will really make you wish that the Rapture was yesterday.
Knowing a little of what to expect 'before a good end' doesn't make observing it any easier.
But what if you don't really expect 'a good end', how much harder must that be?
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

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Quote:And the world will live as one
Quote:Why, you might find it is not his will and you would spend eternity burning in utter agony in hellfire courtesy of your loving God. Yes, eternal, excruciating torture is such a wonderful, kind, loving, helpful threat to make to all those beings you created and caused to be the way they are. Why, that means he knows who is going to burn and who isn't already, because he is God and knows everything!!! Thank you God for creating me so I can burn in hell forever after I die.
That vengeful God of the Old Testament who acts like a spoiled child is not the real Creator god. He was a usurper and an empty suit, much like O-bomb-us.
Perhaps you can answer this for me, Mayito. My mother is looking forward to the rapture as well, but she's thrown out something I hadn't heard previously. She says I can still be saved after the rapture but I'll have to be beheaded. Have you heard anything along those lines anywhere?
Don't Get Caught On The Toilet When Jesus Comes Back!


True Christian® friends, we know that Jesus is only moments away from making His appearance here on Earth. When He finally shows up, He will not be sharing His unconditional love with any liberal, Boodist, demoncrat, Mary Worshipper, or any other unsaved person. They will be discarded like trash and shipped off to be dumped into the lake of fire where they will burn forever. Our Lord will wonderfully and gloriously destroy every single unsaved person on this so-called "Planet Earth." Praise His name! And thank God for the unconditional love He shares with everyone who does exactly what He says.

Friends, I just want to make sure that you realize if you are sitting on the toilet when Jesus comes back, and His sweet face peeks into the bathroom, to find you there, He could turn His back on you forever! What an UNGODLY position to be in! Jesus ain't gonna rapture anyone with their pants hanging down by their ankles. Shame on you! He is not coming back to endure the evil smells you make in the bathroom either! Jesus will NOT tolerate the stink of your asparagus-tainted urine, nor will His heavenly nostrils bear the scent of your stools! He shouldn't have to! He is our creator and He knows ALL! He knows when you are sleeping, He knows when you're awake, and He watches you while you sit on the potty reading Christian newspapers and stinking up the whole house! He will NOT interrupt you on the toilet! And that's something you should think about before ever sitting down on one! Furthermore, if you are a teenager, I want to ask you a question. Do you think Jesus doesn't care what you are doing while you are sitting on the toilet? Not only does He care, He cares enough to put a little check mark in His book whenever He sees you touch your tallywacker! Don't ever waste your time trying to explain things to Jesus, you little sissy! You'll just give Him a big old belly laugh! All True Christians® know that if a boy touches himself, even in the shower, he is a homosexural. So just shut up about it and accept the fact that you are going to burn in HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY! "Fantasizing" about the "body parts" of female sluts is never an excuse! Since a boy is touching a male unmentionable member, that makes him HOMOSEXURAL! That is why a man who touches his devil snake while urinating is damned to an everlasting Hell. Some lazy housewives complain about the mess when their husband doesn't guide his privates while eliminating liquid waste, but I would much rather have to sponge off a plastic toilet seat or silk flower arrangement over the tank four times a day than spend eternity without my Christian husband in Glory.

Jesus is not going to accept any silly excuses. He is not a liberal, nor is He a scientist or modern doctor! He is the Son of God, and his favorite remedy for curing everything is to burn everyone who doesn't do exactly what He commands, IN HELL. Dear Friends, Jesus is no respector of sin. Whether it's masturbating, fornicating, voting democratic in a national election, or even murdering someone, it's all the same in the eyes of God! Although, I believe that it sickens Him to have to sit up in Heaven all day watching young boys masturbate, our Lord has seen it all.

So let's not get caught on the devil's johnny when the Lord comes a' callin' friends! I really believe the only way to assure salvation while you are sitting on the toilet is if your bottom is planted firmly into one of my Rapture Ready Toilet® seats ($2,489.00 Sears Model). My Rapture Ready Toilet® (featuring "The Target," Hillary Clinton's face handpainted inside the bowl), was created by Christians FOR Christians! Not only does it have a stink proofer, so Jesus doesn't have to smell your sin deposits, but it also has an anti-masturbation mechanism, a giant picture of Jesus, a Bible rest, a stereo hooked up to Pastor's best sermons, and a self wiper! If you can't afford a Rapture Ready Toilet®, my advice (and this does not guarantee that you will be raptured) is to wear an adult diaper and keep a can of Glade nearby to hide the smell! I suggest that you wear that diaper to work, to school, to your seat in Congress (the White House has already implemented this solution to assure their ascendency to Heaven; GW Bush and Cheney love wearing their adult diapers and report extra "freedom" to perform their tasks). Even Ari Fleisher, the Jew, who insists he will wait until the very last minute to accept Jesus and stop being an unsaved Jew, is wearing Depends®. True Christians across the nation are dutifully following their example. Praise God! But I still suggest you purchase one of my toilets, just in case.

As a final word of caution, all True Christians®, take note! You will only join me and Jesus in Heaven if you stay away from the toilet and all its dirty business as much as Christianly possible. Even if it means holding it in for days on end! For the Lord tells us -- He will appear like a thief in the night! No one knows the day or the hour! Don't get caught with your trousers down by your ankles! Oh Heavens No! I couldn't bear the thought! Please show Jesus that you are a True Christian® Republican who doesn't lower himself and "go to the bathroom." I pray for you to be stench-less and worthy of entering the House of the Lord, where the only smell will be the sweet scent of the precious blood of Jesus!
For the 1,972nd Time, Jesus Forgets All About the Rapture
Local/National News

Freehold, Iowa - Hundreds of Landover members, young and old alike, gathered as they do each December 31st in the Landover Baptist Country Club's Cotton Mathers Presidential Ballroom for their annual rapture party. Those expectant churchgoers (exclusively gold and platinum tithers) who have been blessed enough to be able to afford the tickets are treated with the seven course, Your Last Supper on Earth dinner. This year, like every year, to honor conservative tradition, the succulent menu was taken directly from the endangered species list. A full menu of what was served during the five-star gala event can be read by clicking here. “Since the Lord Jesus is going to fry up the whole world at midnight,” said Chef Pee-Air Watkins, while preparing the 8,900-calorie a ticket feast, “I’m not going to waste a lot of time worrying about whether table five just gulped down the last sea turtle in existence.”

For drinks, the church served twenty-one cases of a 1967 Bordeaux that is rarer than the spotted owl heads used to garnish the melon ball platters. Since there is a strict prohibition against imbibing liquor, church pastors prayed over each crate of the expensive French wine to remove all the alcohol – and the excess tannins that several of the ladies had complained about last year. "The Bible tells us that we are not to be drunk (drink alcohol) until we get to Heaven,” said Pastor Deacon Fred. “We all know we'll have plenty of time to get drunk with the Lord Jesus at the Wedding Feast of the Lamb - as we understand it, the same rules apparently don't apply in Heaven, so wine will be served there and it would be rude to refuse it. After Jesus’ mother Mary kicked up such an embarrassing fuss about not having any more free booze at that wedding she dragged Jesus to, it’s a pretty safe bet that Jesus will keep the heavenly decanters topped off to avoid a similar scene in Glory" Deacon Fred added that the Lord Jesus is known for making some of the best wine in the universe. "My guess is that God's plan is that we all get drunk and just have a ton of laughs watching all those sinners with their heads on fire, bobbing up and down, yelping like helpless little doggies, paddling to stay afloat in the lake of fire. I get the giggles just thinking about it," he said.

Church members played advanced Bible charades and Pop the Pickaninny until about 11:45 p.m. After that, they gathered around the Giant Jesus Sky Drop outside the country club with the rest of the Baptists whom the Lord Jesus, for reasons of His own, didn’t entrust with financial blessings enough to be able to afford a ticket to the party . As usual, sister May Clark’s ten, spirited children counted down the minutes in song like a saved Von Trapp family until Rapture time. During these final moments, a giant paper mache Jesus was lowered slowly with each tick of the clock, from the construction crane high above Landover Towers. (And, of course, residents of Landover Towers who hadn’t read their End Times Newsletter, once again, flooded the Freehold Police Department with complaints about “an enormous peeping tom Jesus.”)

"I guess everyone knows by now, Jesus was a no-show at this year's annual Rapture party, but we all had fun," said Pastor Deacon Fred the following Sunday. "I gotta tell you folks, we've got ourselves such a slice of Heaven on Earth here with this great church, frankly, I bet the Lord Jesus came down to fetch us, saw our many earthly blessings and ran back up to Glory trying to cook up a way to make Heaven even nicer – worried that we wouldn’t be impressed enough when we Raptured up there and raise a ruckus the likes of which He hasn’t seen since Lucifer started that almost-successful angel coup." Pastor reminded everyone of what happened during the turn of the millennium a few years ago, when a few elderly and eager Landover members, who were absolutely certain in their souls that Jesus was going to show up at midnight, lost their lives. "Their horrifying story is a lesson to us all," he said. "Those of you who are not blessed enough to enjoy the Real American™ True Christian™ lifestyle need to work on your patience," said Pastor. "It's been well over 2,000 years now, and every interpretation of prophecy we've had so far has been wrong. Hell’s bells, even Jesus and Paul thought it would happen right away, so it is hardly surprising that normal folks – who aren’t the son of God or talk like they are – get their dates all mixed up, too. We've got Jack Van Impe hoppin' around like a rooster in a hen coop trying to get his claws back around scripture every time a prophecy falls through the cracks. Let's all calm down and try to understand, folks. So, the Lord is taking his leisurely time, my friends. And so should you, in your duty to emulate the Lord. Have another glass of this newly unfermented wine and relax. Go about your Christian business and enjoy your life. Find the wonderful delight that only comes from being more loved by God than the unsaved trash around you! Why be so eager for Glory when you won’t have that extra kick in your step that only comes from being just a bit better than everyone else? Continue to memorize the sections of Scripture approved for reading, purchase 100% Christian non-Chinese products, go to church, fight the liberal menace, sniff out sinners, practice discretionary witnessing, and be thankful that your 9:00 a.m. tee time at Landover's Leviticus Acres Executive Christian Golf Course was secured through your earnest and selfless prayers – and tithes commensurate with your love of the Lord Jesus.

Pastor also told concerned church members to continue memorizing the following verses about the imminence of the Lord's Second Coming. (Even though unsaved naysayers are fond of citing such Scriptures to show the supposed unreliability of Biblical prophesy, these passages simply underscore that Jesus loves His flock so much, He isn’t above telling a little white lie to keep its interest.)
this thread is a great example of the typical use of "religion", to divide people and to justify hatred in the name of the lord, soooooo mario, please refresh everyones memory by posting the exact chapters and verses from the bible that mention the word rapture.
Quote:Cat fight!! What to do after the Rapture
Mark Twain would vote for Sex.
Mark Twain would also opine;

"Do not bring your dog"
Quote:Perhaps you can answer this for me, Mayito. My mother is looking forward to the rapture as well, but she's thrown out something I hadn't heard previously. She says I can still be saved after the rapture but I'll have to be beheaded. Have you heard anything along those lines anywhere?
I have heard this also.... The rule is if you reject before the rapture, you will have to profess a love for Jesus and those in charge will ask you to reject him. No rejection = chop chop.

I will take my chances. As I am tired of and no longer will let any type of fear lead my life in any way.
Quote:Why do they call their movement against me a 'jihad,' a holy war? I am a computer. How can I be connected to their religions? - Omnius
You may be a God of Machines, Omnius. - Erasums
Then why am I asking questions? If I were God, I would know everything. - Omnius
Important concepts must be absorbed in their totality. Do not attempt to interpret scriptures while wearing blinders in order to suit your own purposes. - Cogitor Kwyna

Having been "dead" I can tell you Jesus nor the Satan is on the other side of MY death Dunno

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Glad to hear you're not afraid of the chop, chop.
By far the best policy.

BTW: Fear for myself isn't an issue.
Can't live in this world today and not be awestruck by the condition of the human experience and even the good old earth itself.
Not that I think I'm immune from what's going down all around me, but I no longer feel like it's home, nor the final destination.
I'll cling to a better promise, and it has to be by faith. Know I can't rely on self.
Quote:but I'll have to be beheaded.
how many times in one life

There is no reason to be disappointed if you were left behind after the rapture this past New Year's Eve. We believe that God had a reason for allowing 99% of all Christians in the world to remain behind. That reason is to carry on the Christian message, and to bring that message to all people, especially to Americans because virtually no one in America has ever even heard of the Gospel. We believe that the Lord wants us to prepare a kingdom here on Earth. A kingdom that will make him proud when he comes back in another 1,000 years to reign over the quick and the dead! Praise be to God! We are also making preparations for a second rapture that could possibly occur in three years. Christians must not be discouraged, and have to allow for the notion that God could possibly be working in shifts. Heaven itself might not have the capacity at this time to hold as many Christians as we have here on Earth, so we believe that he is working with a long list of folks that will just have to wait their turn. Expect a series of 15 raptures stretched out over a 100 year time frame. That is our best Godly estimate, and we believe we speak for all Baptists everywhere when we say that he might be saving 'the best for last,' (It is accepted by intelligent Christians everywhere that Baptists are the prophesied "Elite" foretold in scripture because we follow the word of God most accurately.

No members of Landover Baptist were taken up during the first rapture a few weeks ago. We are not dismayed. Although we had "So Long Sinners!" written on the soles of our shoes, we still consider it an honor to remain behind. God picked the strongest Christians to remain behind after the rapture. He took the weaklings with Him to Glory to help prepare the table, set the dishes, and cook the food for the hard working Christians who will be arriving shortly. There were scattered reports of people just floating off into the sky, leaving their clothes behind. Although we know this happened, we can't confirm it, it is by faith that we believe it to be true. We don't condone nudity, and the Lord could have used a little more tact and left folks flying away in their underwear, but that was up to Him, and we don't question it. Most of the folks who were raptured were working with naked colored folks to begin with, so it probably came as no shock to the poor little negroes as they stared wide eyed into the sky watching their superiors float off toward the moon.

So it is business as usual here at the Landover Baptist campus, and at millions of other churches around the globe. We suck in our guts, tuck in our shirts, put on our ties, crack our Bibles, and continue on in our faith. We do not tire of waiting for the Lord. He has supplied us with all the amenities we need to survive in this troubled world. Real persecution continues to happen. Christian children are being laughed at for wearing Christian T-shirts, Evolution continues to be taught in our schools, Homosexual marriage is being peddled by Satan as 'normal,' tires are being slashed on cars that have Christian bumper stickers, and Christian warriors are still being given dirty looks Sunday mornings at Denny's. So no, the persecution has not ended. It is has only just begun.
Quote:Perhaps you can answer this for me, Mayito. My mother is looking forward to the rapture as well, but she's thrown out something I hadn't heard previously. She says I can still be saved after the rapture but I'll have to be beheaded. Have you heard anything along those lines anywhere?

According with theologians after the Rapture many people even some here who didn't believe will realize that we were right, there are many books written, movies, etc, even there is a website now that you can subscribe to, that when you are raptured it will send e-mails to those people you chose and will tell them about the Rapture and the details about what to do after the Rapture. According with the book of Revelation there is going to be a group of 144 thousands Jewish male who will be chosen by God to preach the Gospel through out the whole Earth and many millions will be saved, more than all the Saints until today so there is still hope, althought many of the new Christians will be killed by the AC because these Saints will refuse to take the mark of the Beast (666), microchip, tattoed code bar, etc. These are the Saints that in the Book of Revelation are mentioned been under the trhone of God asking how long until they are avenged. These Sainst are those Christian who came to know the Lord during the Tribulation and are massacred by the AC. Now there is going to be many of them who will not be killed but will survive until Christ return in His Second Coming. Let me know if you need more details.
Almon talking to you is a waste of time right now, you have your mind made about mocking Christ so not use on trying to convince you, it is not your time yet to find the truth, only when you open your mind to the possibility that I and those like me maybe right you will then understand.
Isn't it true that the word "rapture" is not found in the Bible?

I've always been totally amazed at how some folks write me and try use the fact that the word “rapture” does not appear in the Bible as an argument against its validity. The issue should be whether or not the concept of the rapture appears in the Bible.

With 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 giving us such a clear description of the rapture, you would have to conclude some people are just playing games with the Word of God. I could change the name of my site to “Catching-Up Ready” to satisfy these folks, but I hardly think that would improve things.

Their logic runs very thin because a huge number of words don't appear in the Bible, including the word “Bible.” Because God's Word was originally written in Hebrew and Greek, one could truthfully say that no English words are found in the Bible. Let's take a look at 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 in the original Greek:


4:16 oti autos o kurios en keleusmati en fwnh arcaggelou kai en salpiggi qeou katabhsetai ap ouranou kai oi nekroi en cristw anasthsontai prwton 4:17 epeita hmeis oi zwntes oi perileipomenoi ama sun autois arpaghsomeqa en nefelais eis apanthsin tou kuriou eis aera kai outws pantote sun kuriw esomeqa 4:18 wste parakaleite allhlous en tois logois toutois


I don't see the dead in Christ rising, Jesus descending from Heaven, or us meeting Him in the air. They're right; the word “rapture” is nowhere to be found. All I see is gobbledygook.

For the record, the word “rapture” comes from the Latin word rapturo, which is a translation of the Greek verb "caught up" that’s found in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. You can call it the “pre-trib rapture,” the “pre-trib rapturo,” or the “pre-trib caught up” - it's all the same thing.
Is it true that the word rapture is not in the Bible?
Adrian Rogers
Love Worth Finding
Yes, that’s true. But neither will you find the Trinity by name in the Bible, nor the word mission and a number of other terms we use to describe theological concepts clearly taught in Scripture.

The word “rapture” in Scripture is taken from the Latin “rapio” for the two words “caught up” used in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. It has come into popular use today to refer to the Lord Jesus coming for the church, to lift her up into the heavens. One raptured is “lifted up” in love.

When you are studying the rapture of the church, there are several things you need to keep in mind. First of all, the second coming of Christ is in two parts, separated by a period of seven years.

The first part is sometimes referred to as the “Rapture” (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, 1 Corinthians 15:52-58). The second part occurs when Christ physically, bodily returns to this earth on the Mount of Olives from which He ascended. The interval between these two events, known as the Tribulation and Great Tribulation, is divided into two, three-and-a-half year periods each. The seventy weeks described in Daniel 9:24-27 speaks of this.

The Great Tribulation is the “wrath to come” from which the believer is delivered by the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 1:9-10). The children of God, “because they have kept the word of His patience, will be kept from that hour of trial.” (Revelation 3:10).

We believe that the Scripture teaches that Christians will not be judged with the world when God pours out His wrath in the day of the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 says, “God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.” Scripture teaches us to look for the Lord’s return, not for the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 1:10 and Titus 2:13).

Jesus said regarding His second coming, “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but My Father only.” We should live like Jesus is coming today. It may be closer than we dare dream

By Adrian Rogers. © 2006 Love Worth Finding Ministries. Website.
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