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Ok - it's done! Well, the trial run is anyways. If everyone is happy with this CMS and its setup, and is still gung-ho about getting the Journal going, then we'll set one up on a "paid for" server and take it from there. If anyone wants to see another CMS package and what it has to offer, I have another one ready to set up to show you.

First things first, if you want to try it out, you have to use Firefox to sign in. Because of the server setup, Internet Explorer will not let you sign in, whereas Firefox will. It's a IE issue and not the software.

Second, if you're a member here, you can be a member there. One of the Main Admins at the HMJ has to sign you up as a member. PM myself, Keith or rhw007 a username and the class you wish to belong to (see below) and we'll set you up with a temporary password that you can change to your liking once you sign in. Also, anyone getting banned from this forum is automatically banned from the HMJ site.

You can find the Journal here:

Test it out and let the rest of us know what you think. Remember, you can only sign in using Firefox. Sorry about that - I didn't know until after I set it up.

Membership is divided into 6 classes. Each member decides for themselves which class they want to belong to. I had to do this in order to give certain access rights to certain members according to level of expertise and their desired level of involvement with the project. It's explain a bit more below.

Guests - Non members

- self explanitory

Members - All members

- In this class, everyone who is a member falls into this category and if you so wish, you can remain here. It is for those of you who wish to read others' work and maybe even submit a bit of your own stuff without the worry of grammer or presentational appeal. Others in the next 5 classes can help you out with that.

Content Admins - Manages content of submissions

- This class is for those of you who would like to take a more active role in the Journals direction and assists others, especially with their grammatical needs.

Presentational Admins - Manages the presentational aspect of content

- This class is for those of you who would like to take a more active role in the Journals direction and assists others, especially with their presentational needs.

Site Designer Admins - Maintains site design and layout

- This is for those who want to get their hands dirty with site and content designing, as well as helping others out along the way.

General Admins - Manages content, presentation of content and site design and layout

- This class is for those of you who want to get your hands into everything or learn how to get your hands into everything.

Main Admin

- That would be me, Keith and Bob. Server side functions are accessed through this class and we can't afford to make any mistakes with them.



Guests - Non members

Quote:[colour=yellow]Access to:[/color]

Main Menu:

"Home" - takes you back to the "Front Page" - start page
"Recent Content" - takes you to the "Recent Additions" page - shows the 10 most recent member submitted content in each category with links to them - also shows member comments
"Submitted Links" - takes you to the "Links" page - lists member submitted categorized links
"NewsFeeds" - takes you to the "NewsFeeds" page - shows newsfeeds from member submitted sources (not working yet)
"Calendar" - takes you to the "Event Calendar" page - lists member submitted events with dates and particulars. Subscription to categorized event notification available.
"Content" - takes you to the "Content" page - lists, with links, categorized member submitted content
"Contact Us" - takes you to the "Contact Us" page - can send email directly to myself or Keith or to me using the online submit form (not working yet)

Block Menus (along sides of page);

("Main Menu" explained above)
"Welcome" - sign in
"Recent Additions" - lists recent additions to member submitted content
"Calendar"

Main Page (center column)

"Welcome Message"
"Submitted News"
"Go to page" - selects news page to visit
"News Categories" - archived submitted news

Control Settings Access:

- None



Members - All members

Quote:Access to:

Main Menu:

"Home" - takes you back to the "Front Page" - start page
"Recent Content" - takes you to the "Recent Additions" page - shows the 10 most recent member submitted content in each category with links to them - also shows member comments. Can submit comments and rate the link.
"Submitted Links" - takes you to the "Links" page - lists member submitted categorized links. Can submit comments, rate the link and post links directly.
"Newsfeeds" - takes you to the "NewsFeeds" page - shows newsfeeds from member submitted sources (not working yet)
"Calendar" - takes you to the "Event Calendar" page - lists member submitted events with dates and particulars. Can enter and view events. Subscription to categorized event notification available.
"Content" - takes you to the "Content" page - lists, with links, categorized member submitted content. Can submit content (subject to admin approval).
"Contact Us" - takes you to the "Contact Us" page - can send email directly to myself or Keith or to me using the online submit form (not working yet)
"Forum" - member it taken to forum where he/she has reading/posting privilidges. Also able to upload images into their "Reply"
"Members" - takes you to a list of members page.
"Site Stats" - takes you to a stats page concerning: | Alltime Stats | Daily Stats | Monthly Stats | Browser Stats | Operating System Stats | Domain Stats | Screen Resolution / Color Depth Stats | Referral Stats | Search String Stats | Recent Visitors
"Downloads" - takes you to the user submitted downloads page.
"Upload" - takes you to the upload page where you can submit items for the download page. Categories and sub-categories can only be created by admins.
"Submit News" - takes you to a very simply news submission page - no wysiwyg editor. Having the "wysiwyg" function on disables pasteing text with Firefox. Full functions are available via the admin controls.

Block Menus (along sides of page);

("Main Menu" explained above)
"Welcome" - member settings, profile and logout
"Private Messages"
"Poll" - only members can participate and only admins can configure
"Last Seen"
"Latest Forum Posts"
"Recent Additions" - lists recent additions to member submitted content
"On Line"
"Chat Box"
"Calendar"

Main Page (center column)

"Submitted News"
"Go to page" - selects news page to visit
"News Categories" - archived submitted news

Control Settings Access:

- none



Content Admins - Manages content of submissions

Quote:Access to:

- See "Members - All members"
"Admins" menu block - see the following

Control Settings Access:

- Create/edit custom pages/menus - "Custom Menus/Pages" - From this screen you can create custom menus or custom pages with your own content in them.
- Manage download categories - "Downloads" - Use this to make downloads available to Members and/or Guests.
- Upload/manage files - "Public Uploads" - From here you can upload files and manage those files that have been uploaded - available via the "File Manager" links and image upload controls available via the "Images" links
- Oversee news categories - "News" - Use to configure how the news will be displayed on the front page, approve submitted news and to submit your own news - advanced features
- Configure mail settings and mailout - "Mail" - Use this page to configure your mail settings for site-wide mailing functions.
- Configure emoticons - "Emoticons" - Standard smiley text strings are replaced by their respective emoticon images throughout the content in your site.
- Configure Search - "Search" - Search parameters and permissions are configured here.
- Configure Main Menu - "Site Links" - Enter all your site links here. Links added here will be shown in your main navigation menu
- Welcome message - "Welcome Message" - This page allows you to set a message that will appear at the top of your front page all the time it's activated.
- Plugin - "PDF" - Configuration settings for converting content into pdf files - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Poll" - Configuration settings for setting up a poll - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Content Management" - Configuration settings for member submitted content, sitewide settings and personal submissions - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Links Page" - Configuration settings for creating a page with categorized links to other sites - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Event Calendar" - Configure, maintain and update calender - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Newsfeeds" - for adding outside news feeds to a menu or page - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Newsletter" - Configuration settings for creating a newsletter - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Feature Box" - Configuration settings for setting up a billboard feature box - - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Moderate comments - available Mod commands under posted comment



Presentational Admins - Manages the presentational aspect of content

Quote:Access to:

- See "Members - All members"
"Admins" menu block - see the following

Control Settings Access:

- Create/edit custom pages/menus - "Custom Menus/Pages" - From this screen you can create custom menus or custom pages with your own content in them.
- Manage download categories - "Downloads" - Use this to make downloads available to Members and/or Guests.
- Upload/manage files - "Public Uploads" - From here you can upload files and manage those files that have been uploaded - available via the "File Manager" links and image upload controls available via the "Images" links
- Oversee news categories - "News" - Use to configure how the news will be displayed on the front page, approve submitted news and to submit your own news - advanced features
- Configure mail settings and mailout - "Mail" - Use this page to configure your mail settings for site-wide mailing functions.
- Configure emoticons - "Emoticons" - Standard smiley text strings are replaced by their respective emoticon images throughout the content in your site.
- Configure Main Menu - "Site Links" - Enter all your site links here. Links added here will be shown in your main navigation menu
- Plugin - "Poll" - Configuration settings for setting up a poll - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Content Management" - Configuration settings for member submitted content, sitewide settings and personal submissions - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Links Page" - Configuration settings for creating a page with categorized links to other sites - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Event Calendar" - Configure, maintain and update calender - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Newsfeeds" - for adding outside news feeds to a menu or page - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Newsletter" - Configuration settings for creating a newsletter - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Feature Box" - Configuration settings for setting up a billboard feature box - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Moderate comments - available Mod commands under posted comment



Site Designer Admins - Maintains site design and layout

Quote:Access to:

- See "Members - All members"
"Admins" menu block - see the following

Control Settings Access:

- Alter site preferences - "Preferences" - Your preferences allow you to specify all the important settings on your site, from site name and description to flood protection and profanity filtering.
- Alter block Menus - "Menus" - You can arrange settings, where and in which order your block menu items are from here.
- Create/edit custom pages/menus - "Custom Menus/Pages" - From this screen you can create custom menus or custom pages with your own content in them.
- Manage download categories - "Downloads" - Use this to make downloads available to Members and/or Guests.
- Upload/manage files - "Public Uploads" - From here you can upload files and manage those files that have been uploaded - available via the "File Manager" links and image upload controls available via the "Images" links
- Oversee news categories - "News" - Use to configure how the news will be displayed on the front page, approve submitted news and to submit your own news - advanced features
- Oversee link categories - "Site Links" - Enter all your site links here. Links added here will be shown in your main navigation menu
- Configure mail settings and mailout - "Mail" - Use this page to configure your mail settings for site-wide mailing functions.
- Manage banners - "Banners" - Banner management for front page/site wide
- Configure emoticons - "Emoticons" - Standard smiley text strings are replaced by their respective emoticon images throughout the content in your site.
- Configure front page content - "Front Page" - From this screen you can choose what to display as the front page of your site and for who, the default is news.
- Configure meta tags - "Meta Tags" - Any meta tags you enter here will be sent to screen in the right place.
- Configure Search - "Search" - Search parameters and permissions are configured here.
- Select site theme - "Theme Manager" - allows you to set your site's public theme and your admin areas theme.
- Welcome message - "Welcome Message" - This page allows you to set a message that will appear at the top of your front page all the time it's activated.
- Plugin Manager - "Plugin Manager" - Allows you to upload, install or uninstall e107 plugins.
- Plugin - "Poll" - Configuration settings for setting up a poll - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Content Management" - Configuration settings for member submitted content, sitewide settings and personal submissions - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "List" - Configuration settings for displaying recent additions - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Links Page" - Configuration settings for creating a page with categorized links to other sites - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Forum" - Configuration settings for setting up and maintaining a forum - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Event Calendar" - Configure, maintain and update calender - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Newsfeeds" - for adding outside news feeds to a menu or page - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Newsletter" - Configuration settings for creating a newsletter - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Feature Box" - Configuration settings for setting up a billboard feature box - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Chatbox" - Configuration settings for setting up the chatbox - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Moderate comments - available Mod commands under posted comment



General Admins - Manages content, presentation of content and site design and layout

Quote:Access to:

- See "Members - All members"
"Admins" menu block - see the following

Control Settings Access:

- Alter site preferences - "Preferences" - Your preferences allow you to specify all the important settings on your site, from site name and description to flood protection and profanity filtering.
- Alter Menus - "Menus" - You can arrange settings, where and in which order your menu items are from here.
- Create/edit custom pages/menus - "Custom Menus/Pages" - From this screen you can create custom menus or custom pages with your own content in them.
- Manage download categories - "Downloads" - Use this to make downloads available to Members and/or Guests.
- Upload/manage files - "Public Uploads" - From here you can upload files and manage those files that have been uploaded - available via the "File Manager" links and image upload controls available via the "Images" links
- Oversee news categories - "News" - Use to configure how the news will be displayed on the front page, approve submitted news and to submit your own news - advanced features
- Oversee link categories - "Site Links" - Enter all your site links here. Links added here will be shown in your main navigation menu
- Configure mail settings and mailout - "Mail" - Use this page to configure your mail settings for site-wide mailing functions.
- Manage banners - "Banners" - Banner management for front page/site wide
- Configure emoticons - "Emoticons" - Standard smiley text strings are replaced by their respective emoticon images throughout the content in your site.
- Configure front page content - "Front Page" - From this screen you can choose what to display as the front page of your site and for who, the default is news.
- Configure meta tags - "Meta Tags" - Any meta tags you enter here will be sent to screen in the right place.
- Configure Search - "Search" - Search parameters and permissions are configured here.
- Select site theme - "Theme Manager" - allows you to set your site's public theme and your admin areas theme.
- Welcome message - "Welcome Message" - This page allows you to set a message that will appear at the top of your front page all the time it's activated.
- Plugin Manager - "Plugin Manager" - Allows you to upload, install or uninstall e107 plugins.
- Plugin - "Statistic Logging" - Use to keep track of site visits - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "PDF" - Configuration settings for converting content into pdf files - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Poll" - Configuration settings for setting up a poll - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Content Management" - Configuration settings for member submitted content, sitewide settings and personal submissions - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "List" - Configuration settings for displaying recent additions - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Links Page" - Configuration settings for creating a page with categorized links to other sites - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Forum" - Configuration settings for setting up and maintaining a forum - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Event Calendar" - Configure, maintain and update calender - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Newsfeeds" - for adding outside news feeds to a menu or page - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Newsletter" - Configuration settings for creating a newsletter - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Feature Box" - Configuration settings for setting up a billboard feature box - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Plugin - "Chatbox" - Configuration settings for setting up the chatbox - available only via the "Admin Area" link in the "Welcome" menu block
- Moderate comments - available Mod commands under posted comment

Anyways, lots to take in. Try it out and see if it works for you. I still have to set up a blog, picture gallery, guest book, add a ton of themes and possibly some games. There's lots out there, but I'm limited with this free server. We need some honest feedback on this one so that we know where to go next.

Steve
Wow, 20 reads and only one person sent me a request for membership to check it out.

Oh well, if nothing happens, then nothing happens.

I set up a "Coppermine Photo Gallery" that is able to interface with most CMS's (I hope it'll do that with e107). You can check it out here:

(link no longer valid)

I've got it set up on another free hosting site. This site offers 5gb storage and 20gb transfer rate/month. Because it's free, the photo gallery site sits (as do others using this service) on the bottom of priority list. Sometimes I'm frozen and sometimes I get kicked off, but mostly it's up and running without a problem. Still, it suits are needs as a test site to see what some of these puppies can really do. Also, I can't add any "add-ons" because these free sites have the php on 'safe mode' - which means no uploading scripts. Bastards! I may have figured out a hack to get around this problem - have to try it out when I catch up on everything. If any of you are interesting in acquiring free web space for yourself, you can check them out here:

http://www.5gbfree.com/

I think I've figured out why IE wont work on the e107 site above. I installed the CMS package into a subdirectory, rather than the root directory. Oh well, learn from your mistakes.

Anyways, if anyone wants a membership in the photo gallery to try it out, pm me with a username and password and I'll fix you up - sorry, can't change your password on this one. It's a little tricky to get the hang of, but don't worry cause I'll walk you through it.

Steve
Bad news - we don't have a sample e107 site to look at - somebody flipped out and deleted it. The good news is that I had a good reason to reinstall it in the root directory, so I did. The bad news is you still can't log in with IE. The good news is it gave me another reason to delete it and install PHP Fusion, which is one I really wanted to try out - so I did. The bad news is that you can't log into this one with IE either. The good news is I can set it up so that guests can try out the various functions. The bad news is you still have to log in to use the admin controls, which requires you to use Firefox. The good news is that the day has finally ended and I'm off to bed.

Sometimes I wonder if its worth getting out of bed in the morning.

Steve
Looks as if I'm not going to be able to "see" anything!

I've got Firefox to work with the HiRise viewer but with
anything else it tries to update with automatic downloads
but they never work!

I tried your link but it then started downloading file after file
after file of something - God knows what! - and when it got
to 35MB on a slow link, I gave up!

Linked to your photo gallery ok though!

Orpbit

<img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cheers.gif" alt="Cheers" title="cheers" />
Quote:You can find the Journal here: http://stevos_stuff.ae-hosting.com/journal/news.php

Test it out and let the rest of us know what you think. Remember, you can only sign in using Firefox. Sorry about that - I didn't know until after I set it up.

I'm sorry I can't find the Journal there
just get redirected to

http://prohosts.org/blog/

which is a page with all the whiz bang stuff
audio, pop ups etc. etc.

Am I doing something wrong ?
Quote:I tried your link but it then started downloading file after file
after file of something - God knows what! - and when it got
to 35MB on a slow link, I gave up!

Quote:I'm sorry I can't find the Journal there
just get redirected to

http://prohosts.org/blog/

which is a page with all the whiz bang stuff
audio, pop ups etc. etc.

Am I doing something wrong ?

Sorry people, guess I should have supplied a link to the new installment of PHP Fusion. I was over tired and over frustrated last night and didn't even think. Here it is:

(link no longer valid)

I don't know what you downloaded Orbit, but it wasn't anything from my site. The whole thing is only a few mb so far. Maybe it was your Firefox updates.

I get that http://prohosts.org/blog/ thingy too hrm - usually when I'm checking out the file directory on the site. That "/journal" in the old address was the subdirectory that I got rid of.

I'm in the process of setting up the PHP Fusion that I installed last night - should take a few more days to complete it. I'm setting it so that you don't have to sign up to see it and use all functions with IE, except admin controls - that you'll need Firefox to do.

This one is very sleek and very easy to use - I like it. It's got eveything we need for a professional looking journal. Between this one and the e107, there's not much difference. The admin controls, as laid out in my first post, are almost identical, so we can use the same sort of setup.

So what did you think of the Photo Gallery?

If all goes well, we'll have a real, fully functioning site in 3 - 4 weeks where every member has access to back-up data and full access to most, if not all controls. Bob and I have been quietly working in the background setting things up. We're trying to make it so that it has everything in place so that you can personally publish your stuff on the web, have full control on its content and presentational appeal, have some say in how the site is laid out and looks and to make it as easy as possible to do so. My job is to test/research various CMS's and pick one that suits our needs. It's a toss up between e107 and PHP Fusion, with a high preference going to PHP Fusion.

Anyways, take a boo at it via the link I posted.

Steve
It works!

Applause

<img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cheers.gif" alt="Cheers" title="cheers" />

Orpbit
Steve...
I wouldn't doubt a tepid dip of the toe to test the waters is being noticed here...
Itz rather daunting...in a sense.

It "Article based and it will be so wierd Posting an article that will be a standalone product.

I'm still in the"This is Really happening" stage but as soon as someone dives in headfirst...the rest will do the "Lemming" dance.
Give it Time.

It's nearly got all the bugz out and the fixes we know you can handle...

Skinny-dip ladies?
Quote:I wouldn't doubt a tepid dip of the toe to test the waters is being noticed here...

Itz rather daunting...in a sense. It "Article based and it will be so wierd Posting an article that will be a standalone product.

Yep, but then the novelty or apprehension or excitement wears off and then it's not such a big deal anymore. It's always the first one that's the most difficult - once you get past it, the rest are easy. One of the unexpected consequences of taking such a risk is that it brings each of us closer to the point of realization that we really are 'good enough' and that we have always been that way.

Quote:I'm still in the"This is Really happening" stage but as soon as someone dives in headfirst...the rest will do the "Lemming" dance.

If need be, I'll volunteer to take the first plunge or two. I've always walked my own path and often said and done things that have been completely out of the norm. I look at it this way, I'm 51 and a half years old - I'm well past the point of trying to impress anyone.

We'll have a 'naked party' when all of this is said and done - cams optional.

Steve
since 'naked's' been mentioned twice- I heed the call-here I am. I was just getting to get into the STRIPPED DOWN TO THE SKIN NAKED effects induced upon us/me this year by the astral influences... 'naked' is a path we should all get totally familiar with if not all ready.

Were you born in '56 Steve? Are you a monkey man? lol
Quote:Were you born in '56 Steve? Are you a monkey man? lol

Yep, born in 56. What's a monkey man?

Quote:since 'naked's' been mentioned twice- I heed the call-here I am.

I should see if I can get something that we can set up a cam room with - now that would be a real naked party!!!!! Of course you know, this type of thing can get out of hand, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Steve
Okay - no more trial runs cause -

We have our own website and our own domain name!!!

Our new domain is:

http://hiddenmessagejournal.com/news.php

If you click on the link, you'll get a test page. It's going to be something more than that! Just have to put it together now, which will take a week or two.

Just a reminder: this is not a site where you gather information from the net and repost it in its entirety there, nor is it a site where you post stuff and discuss it like you do here. Rather, it's a place where you post your research; your ideas, feelings or experiences on any subject you choose; read or share information with/from others and a place where you can store, archive, edit and publish your work.

In short, it's an extension of the Hidden Mission and not another Hidden Mission.

Only members of this forum can be a member of the HMJ and you become a member there simply because you want to be a member there - no one is refused. If you get kicked off of this forum, you are then automatically kicked off the Journal site. When I have the Journal up and running, I'll post a message here and we can then start signing up members.

There's two ends to the site:

The Front End - This is where your published work goes and it is what the public sees. It can be in the form of text, audio or video. There will also be news postings as they attract bots, which in turn enters our site in the major search engines. Also, news tends to attract readers.

The Back End - This is where the members compile their research and edit their work. It will be hidden from the public.

There's no real boss there and members are generally free to do as they wish so long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of other members or put the entire project in jeopardy. We can't have someone posting inappropriate images in the photo gallery just because another member pisses them off.

I think the e107 CMS package is the best one to use. It integrates with Coppermine Photo Gallery, should we decide to use it, and B2Evolution, A Blogging package that's similar to an office suite with video and audio capabilities. To really understand what all this stuff is about, you have to get into it and play with it. It's not all that hard to use - just a matter of clicking a bunch of buttons - everything is automated. If you can post a message on this forum, you can use this software - same thing, just more of it.

Basically, we have unlimited storage with unlimited bandwidth.

One thing that I think is important is that every member will have access to data backup. That way, should something dreadful happens, we all have all of our data saved.

Questions? Comments? Concerns?

Steve
No questions except possibbly:
Hey Steve how the hell do I do this???
Damned
Quote:No questions except possibbly:
Hey Steve how the hell do I do this???
cheers Technical.

Dammnit...now I have to paraphrase/trim/and self-edit.\


I admit to all that I requested EDITING.

Not to worry EA - there'll be volunteers here and there to help out - myself included. If we all do what we can and help out where we can, everything will get done. It's already happening here anyways. Everything is going to get done in spite of itself.

There'll be an area there for requesting help and there'll be an area for offering help. There'll also be a "How to......" section, which I've already started on.

I've already offered to edit your work for you, so that concern is addressed.

It'll be a little bit yet where we actually get to the publishing stage, so no rush.

Steve
Ok people, I need some help here. e107, just like this forum, has themes that you can apply to your site. This site here:

http://e107designs.org/e107_plugins/dallery_menu/

offers a number of themes that will give our site a certain look. For those of you who have some extra time, could you take a look at them and pick out a few of your favourite ones. Either download them and email them to me or list the names of the themes in this thread. I'll install them as I get them after I install the e107 package.

They only allow you one download a day unless you sign up as a member, then it's unlimited. I don't know, it's up to you as to which route to take.

TIA

Steve
Hello Steve: Thanks for the work you are putting into this. My preference for what it is worth is simple, tasteful, and, especially, easy to maintain.

deo
Quote:Hello Steve: Thanks for the work you are putting into this. My preference for what it is worth is simple, tasteful, and, especially, easy to maintain.

deo

ditto :uni:
I like Starryeyes cover the best. I also love "Crux".

I think I'll have to download firefox browers on my new laptop. Firefox took forever to work with my old one.
OK - Sites up. Not much to look at yet as I now have to config everything. It's ready to take members now, but it might take up to a week before you can post anything there. In any case, if you want to sign up as a member, PM me and I'll sign you up and PM the info back to you here.

Here's the address:

http://www.hiddenmessagejournal.com/news.php

Feel free to stop by once in a while to check on the progress.

Steve

P.S. - You can sign in with Internet Explorer - checked it myself at least a 100 times. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smoke.gif" alt="Smoke" title="smoke" />
Doesn't accept pdf's! ?

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Quote:Doesn't accept pdf's! ?

It's not ready to accept uploads yet. I may create a separate directory for pdf's and then link directly to them. Will let you know when that part is ready.

Steve
We need a General Administrator - who's up for the job? Any volunteers? You can also volunteer someone if you think they would do a good job.

The job entails having access to functions that normally would fall under the control of Site Administrators - everything but server access is included.

You don't have to know anything about anything as it is a "learn as you go" type of thing. I'll make myself available 24/7 to assist you in the learning curve. One thing that you will be required to do is to address member requests, questions and concerns in a prompt manner.

There are 3 Site Admins right now, but our plates are full and we can't always be there. We need someone to take up the slack now and again - someone who can make decisions on the fly and act upon them accordingly. I doubt very much you will be busy with 'crowd control' and the like as members will probably not engage themselves in heated debate in its forum.

In a nutshell, you'll be doing site maintenance, attending member requests and questions and working on your own stuff.

PM me or volunteer in this thread and I'll fix you up there.

Steve
Update for the week: Oct 14/07

Still looking for a General Administrator!

When you come to the site as a guest, you will see and have access to what is listed under "Guest Access" below. When you sign in as a member, you will see and have access to what is listed under "Member Access" below. Just so everyone has an idea of what to expect with the site, here's what I'm trying to accomplish:

- Give guests access to all submitted articles, images, audio and video (submitters elect to have their submissions kept private, shown only to other members or to everyone)
- Give members all the necessary tools needed to allow them to present their stuff in a rich, clean and professional looking medium. Presentation of content will be highly individualized.
- Give members control over site layout and function.
- Allow for maximum privacy for members and their individual projects and give privacy controls back to members.
- Give members complete control on the purpose, philosophy, content and direction of the Journal.
- Monetary cost to members - nothing, nada, keep your money in your pocket, your money is no good around here, free for the taking.

Guests Access

- Calender - The Calender shows member submitted events and other important dates. Notification subscription available to members and guests.
- Search - The search function allows guests to search the user submitted content, news articles, Links, Downloads and other publically accessible areas for specefic data
- Forthcoming Events - Events approaching in the near future are displayed here. They originate from the Calender above.
- Latest Comments - Displays the last few comments submitted on the site on a news article or content submitted by a member. Members have control to allow/disallow comments and from which class.
- News Items - Can view, create a pdf from, email article, print article and add comments. Can also access news archives. Members have control to allow/disallow comments and from which class.
- Last seen - Displays a list of the last several, signed in members and when.

Member Access

- Calender - The Calender shows member submitted events and other important dates. Notification subscription available to members and guests.
- Search - The search function allows members to search the entire site for specefic data
- Members - Displays a list of members with links to their profile.
- Submit News - A simple function to submit news articles to the front page. A wysiwyg editor is included, however; when these wysiwyg are activated, copy and paste functions are disabled in Firefox and Mozilla. IE is unaffected.
- Site Stats - Shows who has visited and their general stats.
- Forum - For discussing anything about "The Hidden Message Journal" and/or the site.
- Forthcoming Events - Events approaching in the near future are displayed here. They originate from the Calender above.
- Latest Comments - Displays the last few comments submitted on the site on a news article or content submitted by a member. Members have control to allow/disallow comments and from which class.
- Chatbox - A little text messaging box to leave simple text messages to other members. All members can read messages.
- Dictionary - A menu that will search 3 dictionary sites and the web for whatever word you type in.
- News Items - Can view, create a pdf from, email article, print article and add comments. Can also access news archives. Members have control to allow/disallow comments and from which class.
- User Menu - For accessing and editing your personal profile.
- Private Message - Similar to what's on this Forum. Can send/receive PM's. Can also send attachments (1 MB)
- Last seen - Displays a list of the last several, signed in members and when.
- Online - Shows what members and how many guests are online and the latest member to sign up.
- Poll - Self explanitory

Shit to do list

- Assign Admin permissions to members
- Create Banner and insert throughout site
- Create "Custom Pages" for pdf's, newsfeeds, specialized user submitted articles and others as needed.
- Create "Custom Menus" for individual members (if requested) and for B2Evolution, MediaWiki and Coppermine
- Create detailed "How to..." on how to backup data and retrieve/restore data elswhere
- Get the "Downloads" page up and running
- Install better emoticons
- Install language packs???? - look into first
- Configure "Mail" site wide
- Enter all data into Meta Tags, where applicable
- Configure "Notification"
- Get the "Uploads" page up and running
- Tweak "Site Links" (Main Menu)
- Find theme for the site that works
- Set up "User Classes"
- Write up a "Welcome Message"
- Configure "Content Management" and get it setup for input
- Setup "Feature Box"
- Get the "Links" page up and running
- Get the "Lists" page up and running
- Get the "Newsfeeds" page up and running
- Get the "Newsletter" page up and running
- Install and setup "Guestbook"
- Install and setup "UserJournal"

Tweak everything and then......

- Install, setup and integrate with main site: B2Evolution

http://b2evolution.net/

- Install, setup and integrate with main site: MediaWiki

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki

- Install, setup and integrate with main site: Coppermine Photo Gallery

http://coppermine-gallery.net/

Steve
Wiki Poll:

What benefits will a wiki bring over and above comments
and debates brought back here? What exactly are you envisaging
people contributing to it?

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Quote:What benefits will a wiki bring over and above comments and debates brought back here?

How many times have you found something to add to a thread, but then you can't find it or don't remember what exact thread it was you wanted to post it in?

Members here are free to post and discuss just about anything, regardless of where they found it. If they find something there that they further want to discuss here, then so be it. Same holds true the other way around.

Quote:What exactly are you envisaging people contributing to it?

The Wiki is a depository for information taken off the web or from other sources. It's a means to share info with other members that is categorized and linked to - it's always at your immediate disposal. Individual members choose what they enter into it - for their own resource or someone elses.

Should there be no category for the information, members will be free to create it and insert a link to it in the appropriate locations.

Besides, if the wiki doesn't get utilized, it's no big deal. At least it's there in case someone wants to use it.

Steve
Quote:Besides, if the wiki doesn't get utilized, it's no big deal. At least it's there in case someone wants to use it.

There's your most important point - you don't need a poll!
It's there for people to develop as they wish, but there must be rules.

As a journal for posting papers/articles of original research, it
would be expected that references would be attached to them.
So I see a wiki as being useful for supplementing references with
new ones found by whoever after publishing, in support of the
objective of the paper or which question accuracy of the data/argument
presented. Opinions or research which present an opposing view
to that argument would be best placed either in an "against"
section or together with a paper/article by someone opposing
the original proposition.

It's something that should be perhaps subject to some guidelines
so that the wiki resource doesn't become a free-for-all and without
logic. Just adding something without a short note to explain the
relevance of the addition, even if placed within a category, would
mean you having to access and read it before you decide whether
you really wanted to open it in the first place! By the time you
collect dozens or even hundreds of references, that becomes a
time consuming exercise. Like any "library" I think you'll find you
will need a "cataloguing" system of some kind.

Being free to create anything you like is not always the best way
forward. I think management will have to look closely at what happens
with this resource as it builds.

Quote:Same holds true the other way around.

Beware of the two -THM/Journal- becoming the same thing in essence!
Debate on issues in published journals is managed very closely. It's
mainly article based, rather than comment based. Outright exchange
of views together with its accompanying colourful language is for a place
like THM! I think you have to stamp the ethics of the journal firmly, to
ensure its value to wider research and status of readership.

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Quote:There's your most important point - you don't need a poll!

The poll is for settling deadlocks and for playing with - whatever's needed at the moment. In the case of settling deadlocks, I don't know - majority rules sounds like a good plan.

Quote:It's there for people to develop as they wish, but there must be rules.

I've thought long and hard about this one and have come to the conclusion that the more rules there are, the more structured it becomes, but then, the more stifled the creative outflow is and the more limiting the submitter's intellectual expression is. I think the very best I can do is let the members decide what rules there will or won't be and for me to stay the hell out of it. The site admin's and the general admin's job is to impose rules that the members have determined and entrusted us to enforce.

Incidently, there are two rules that I plan to enforce and the purpose of these two rules is simply to ensure the continuation of the Journal. In short, I'm not going to allow the site to be taken down because someone posted illegal/immoral material. The non negotiable rules are:

1. If you get banned from this site, you are automatically banned from that site.
2. If you jeopardize the welfare of The Hidden Message Journal, then action will be taken to rectify the issue.

The server sits on American soil and is therefore subject to American law. If things get out of hand, I can always move it to a different server in some other country where the laws are less favourable to huge corporations.

Quote:As a journal for posting papers/articles of original research, it
would be expected that references would be attached to them.

That goes without saying.

Quote:So I see a wiki as being useful for supplementing references with
new ones found by whoever after publishing, in support of the
objective of the paper or which question accuracy of the data/argument
presented. Opinions or research which present an opposing view
to that argument would be best placed either in an "against"
section or together with a paper/article by someone opposing
the original proposition.

It's something that should be perhaps subject to some guidelines
so that the wiki resource doesn't become a free-for-all and without
logic. Just adding something without a short note to explain the
relevance of the addition, even if placed within a category, would
mean you having to access and read it before you decide whether
you really wanted to open it in the first place! By the time you
collect dozens or even hundreds of references, that becomes a
time consuming exercise. Like any "library" I think you'll find you
will need a "cataloguing" system of some kind.

It's not installed yet and its installation isn't written in stone. Let's wait and see what options are available to use before we set the parameters.

Just about everything there has a category function to it. I've gone ahead and entered some of the more common categories for the news section. Either today or tomorrow, I'll enter some for the "Content Management" function. I know Coppermine uses categories as well. As for the wiki, I'd imagine they have the same kind of setup. All of this is really a good thing!!! Everything we enter into the site is stored in a database. If the data has a category associated with it, then it can be retrieved with the click of a button. I'm going to try and set these categories up before everything is operational. Also, categories are not written in stone - they can be changed and sub categories can be inserted underneath these. One can go mad trying to build a very detailed category tree, but I've found that it's always best to build a foundation first and then build upon it as you go.

Quote:Being free to create anything you like is not always the best way
forward. I think management will have to look closely at what happens
with this resource as it builds.

management = members

Quote:Beware of the two -THM/Journal- becoming the same thing in essence!
Debate on issues in published journals is managed very closely. It's
mainly article based, rather than comment based. Outright exchange
of views together with its accompanying colourful language is for a place
like THM! I think you have to stamp the ethics of the journal firmly, to
ensure its value to wider research and status of readership.

The Hidden Message Journal is a medium to present user created media to the general public and contains all the necessary tools to do so and The Hidden Mission is a place for users to submit material and discuss it, whether the material is the work of the poster or from some else. Ones purely presentation and the other is presentation with the discussion element attached to it.

Steve
Thanks Steve:

Just thinking that with the gist of your answers, perhaps the
poll was a little premature. Now you've given some answers
I think perhaps it's just about on time, with the progress that
you're making. Hope I didn't obstruct you in that work, which
is much appreciated!

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Quote:Hope I didn't obstruct you in that work, which is much appreciated!

No obstruction as I took a day off, which I needed.

Got a few more things up and going - everything is starting to come together now.

For anybody who is interested:

Go to the journal site: http://www.hiddenmessagejournal.com/news.php

Submitted News Articles

You'll see a news item with a picture - click on the picture. It's called Lightbox and it's site wide, but only if you select to have it applied to your thumbnails. Click the X on the bottom of the full size picture to close it. Could any of you let me know if you click and nothing happens.

Bottom right of the article you'll see three icons:

email: you can email the news article to whomever you want, but don't cause it's not set up yet (next job)
print: prints the article.
pdf: creates a pdf of the article with the picture - in the generated pdf, click "File" in the menu and select "Save As" and save to your favourite location

User submitted content

(This is where your submissions go - can also display elsewhere)

1. Click "Content" in the Menu Bar on the front page
2. Scroll down to "Exotic Physics" and click on it
3. This is where all the user created and submitted content goes.

- "little man" icon: will generate a list of all the personal content I've submitted
- my name: you'll send me an email
- email: you can email the article to whomever you want, but don't cause it's not set up yet (next job)
- print: prints the article.
- pdf: creates a pdf of the article with the picture - in the generated pdf, click "File" in the menu and select "Save As" and save to your favourite location

4. Click on "read more" and you'll see the full article

5. Click on the picture

Everything is generated and stored automatically. All you have to do is select a category and copy and paste text into the text area - apply format where needed, just like this forum. All members are allowed to upload images - up to 1mb and no larger than 1024 pixels width or 1024 pixels height - thumbnails are automatically generated where needed.

Steve
Looking good, all worked fine for me!

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[quote author="Orpbit2"]Looking good, all worked fine for me!

Scream Worship Let me back in :uni:
Here's my effort for the banner.
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I like the banner EA - just got to figure out where to put it. Take a look at the site and offer up suggestions. Click on the "www" button on the bottom.

BTW, I'm tweaking everything and triple checking the settings. If you change one thing, you have to make changes elsewhere as well.

I'll write up a pdf on what's to offer and then link to it from here. That way, those interested will have a reference copy. Should be done by mid next week.

Steve
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