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  Invisible fabric...Nah!
Posted by: Fsbirdhouse - 12-13-2017, 02:43 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - No Replies


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  Here we go again.
Posted by: Fsbirdhouse - 12-12-2017, 02:15 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (10)

5th time I'll be battling Cancer.
Found out yesterday, but it's not terrifically aggressive, so I'll be going in about the first of February.
The tumors are not so much a worry as waking up after the operation.
Of course Jan is just a ball of raw nerve endings about that aspect.

I knew something was wrong, that I should not pursue every opportunity for a hunt as I had always done in seasons past. Sleeping in later in a nice warm bed when it's 12* outside just seems so much more attractive now.
Taking a nap is right up there with the hunts now, and so much easier to do these days.
A toddy next to the bed on one side, the Schnauzer next to me on the other, and Jake curled up on the floor....all three sound asleep.

I'm not scared.

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  Juno not thrusting but 60+ Voyager IS ???
Posted by: rhw007 - 12-09-2017, 09:41 AM - Forum: Anomalous Herald News - No Replies

Voyager 1 fires up thrusters after 37 years

Date:December 2, 2017Source:NASA/Jet Propulsion LaboratorySummary:A set of thrusters aboard the Voyager 1 spacecraft successfully fired up Wednesday after 37 years without use. Since 2014, engineers have noticed that the thrusters Voyager 1 has been using to orient the spacecraft, called "attitude control thrusters," have been degrading. 

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The Voyager team is able to use a set of four backup thrusters, dormant since 1980. They are located on the back side of the spacecraft in this orientation.
Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech

If you tried to start a car that's been sitting in a garage for decades, you might not expect the engine to respond. But a set of thrusters aboard the Voyager 1 spacecraft successfully fired up Wednesday after 37 years without use.
Voyager 1, NASA's farthest and fastest spacecraft, is the only human-made object in interstellar space, the environment between the stars. The spacecraft, which has been flying for 40 years, relies on small devices called thrusters to orient itself so it can communicate with Earth. These thrusters fire in tiny pulses, or "puffs," lasting mere milliseconds, to subtly rotate the spacecraft so that its antenna points at our planet. Now, the Voyager team is able to use a set of four backup thrusters, dormant since 1980.

"With these thrusters that are still functional after 37 years without use, we will be able to extend the life of the Voyager 1 spacecraft by two to three years," said Suzanne Dodd, project manager for Voyager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California.

Since 2014, engineers have noticed that the thrusters Voyager 1 has been using to orient the spacecraft, called "attitude control thrusters," have been degrading. Over time, the thrusters require more puffs to give off the same amount of energy. At 13 billion miles from Earth, there's no mechanic shop nearby to get a tune-up.
The Voyager team assembled a group of propulsion experts at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California, to study the problem. Chris Jones, Robert Shotwell, Carl Guernsey and Todd Barber analyzed options and predicted how the spacecraft would respond in different scenarios. They agreed on an unusual solution: Try giving the job of orientation to a set of thrusters that had been asleep for 37 years.

"The Voyager flight team dug up decades-old data and examined the software that was coded in an outdated assembler language, to make sure we could safely test the thrusters," said Jones, chief engineer at JPL.
In the early days of the mission, Voyager 1 flew by Jupiter, Saturn, and important moons of each. To accurately fly by and point the spacecraft's instruments at a smorgasbord of targets, engineers used "trajectory correction maneuver," or TCM, thrusters that are identical in size and functionality to the attitude control thrusters, and are located on the back side of the spacecraft. But because Voyager 1's last planetary encounter was Saturn, the Voyager team hadn't needed to use the TCM thrusters since November 8, 1980. Back then, the TCM thrusters were used in a more continuous firing mode; they had never been used in the brief bursts necessary to orient the spacecraft.

All of Voyager's thrusters were developed by Aerojet Rocketdyne. The same kind of thruster, called the MR-103, flew on other NASA spacecraft as well, such as Cassini and Dawn.

On Tuesday, Nov. 28, 2017, Voyager engineers fired up the four TCM thrusters for the first time in 37 years and tested their ability to orient the spacecraft using 10-millisecond pulses. The team waited eagerly as the test results traveled through space, taking 19 hours and 35 minutes to reach an antenna in Goldstone, California, that is part of NASA's Deep Space Network.

Lo and behold, on Wednesday, Nov. 29, they learned the TCM thrusters worked perfectly -- and just as well as the attitude control thrusters.

"The Voyager team got more excited each time with each milestone in the thruster test. The mood was one of relief, joy and incredulity after witnessing these well-rested thrusters pick up the baton as if no time had passed at all," said Barber, a JPL propulsion engineer.

The plan going forward is to switch to the TCM thrusters in January. To make the change, Voyager has to turn on one heater per thruster, which requires power -- a limited resource for the aging mission. When there is no longer enough power to operate the heaters, the team will switch back to the attitude control thrusters.
The thruster test went so well, the team will likely do a similar test on the TCM thrusters for Voyager 2, the twin spacecraft of Voyager 1. The attitude control thrusters currently used for Voyager 2 are not yet as degraded as Voyager 1's, however.

Voyager 2 is also on course to enter interstellar space, likely within the next few years.

The Voyager spacecraft were built by JPL, which continues to operate both. JPL is a division of Caltech in Pasadena. The Voyager missions are a part of the NASA Heliophysics System Observatory, sponsored by the Heliophysics Division of the Science Mission Directorate in Washington. For more information about the Voyager spacecraft, visit:

Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...094942.htm

So...why the FRACK are they trusting 50 + years of OLD tech to WORK but are UNWILLING to Fire the Juputer Juno Probe into it's PROPER scientific Orbit ??? Doh 

Nootropics Are Standard Above - Kalter
Nasa Admits Seasonal Allergies
Nasal Air Sniffer Apparatus
Nasal Aloof Senseless Aristocrats
Nastiest Angry Scientists Alive / Jokingly Presenting Lies
Nasty Anomaly Scene Airbrush
Nasty Antisocial Swine Association
Naval Aviators Scream Above
Necessary Alternative Same Adversary
Necrotic Aardvark Science Advice
Necrotic Aardvarks Sate Appetites
Nervous Around Stairway Ascension
Nether Abyss Slimy Alien
Never A Space Adventure
Never A Straight Answer
Never Acknowledge Something Absolute
Never Admit Slime Allover
Never Admit Spores Allover
Never Admits Something Anomalous
Never All Shots Acknowledged
Never Announce Something Astonishing
Never Anomaly Shots Acknowledged
Never Any Sense Alright.
Never Any Sensible Answer
Never Any Serious Attention
Never Any Serious Attitude
Never Any Specific Answers
Never Anything Seriously Admitted
Never Anytime Scan Anomalously/ Just Plain Laydown
New Accountability Steps Allover
New Accounting Steps Allover
New Alcohol Sensitivity Abnormalities
New Alien Species Apocalypse
New Alien Specious Accounting
New Alien Spores Allover
New Aliens Shitting Astrobiologists
New Aliens Shitting Astrophysicists
New Analysis Studies Accountable
New Analysis Studies Allover
New Anomalies Shafted Always
New Anomalies Shafted Away
New Anomalies Shifted Always
New Anomalies Shifted Away
New Anomalies Shitted Always
New Anomalies Shitted Away
New Anomaly Secretly Acquired
New Anomaly Shrouded Abundantly
New Anxious Serious Asskisser
New Anxious Serious Asskissing
New Anxious Silly Asskisser
New Anxious Silly Asskissing  
New Anxious Stupid Asskisser
New Anxious Stupid Asskissing  
New Asinine Stall Agreement
New Assumptional Studies Allowed
New Astrobiologists Shilling Arsenic
New Atlantis Seen Afar / Joker Pokers Like Just Pulling Legs
Newly Acquired Secret Anomaly
Newtonian Astrophysical Serendipitous Apple  -EA
Newts Are Succulent Amphibians --KAlter
Nibiru Absent Surveillance Archives
Nice Analysis Seems Absent
Nickers Are Soiled Always
Nixon Abandoned Space Age
No Abode Seems Adequate
No Accountability Serious Anywhere
No Accounting Serious Anywhere
No Adult Supervision Available
No Adult Supervision Available & sidekickers Just Poking Liars  - EA
No Airhead Sensible Adults
No Alien Slime Allowed
Non Actual Simulated Avatar   - EA
New Astronomical Shenanigans Allover & Just Pulling Line -rhw007
No Astrology Student Aware & Just Posting Lyme -rhw007
Nobody Astrologists Shout Absolutes & Jokers Posting Limericks -rhw007
Neanderthal Astrobiologists Suddenly Annihilated & Jointly Painting Lies -rhw007
New Astrobiologists Slinking Adversely & Joined Parting Lines -rhw007
No Alien Space Artifacts
No Alien Spores Allover
No Alien Spores Allowed
No Aliens Seen Above
No Aliens Shitting Astrobiologists
No Aliens Shitting Astrophysicists
No Aloud Shouts Allowed     
No Americans Say Anything / Just Playing Lipservice
No Analysis Serious Anywhere
No Analysis Studies Acceptable
No Analysis Studies Accountable
No Anomalous Samples Acknowledged
No Anomalous Snapshots Aired
No Anomaly Samples Acknowledged
No Anomaly Seen Admitted
No Answer Seems Acceptable
No Answer Sounds Acceptable
No Answers Shinning ANUdiscoveries
No Anymore Serious Asskissing
No Anymore Silly Asskissing  
No Anymore Stupid Asskissing  
No Assumptional Studies Allowed
No Astrobiologists Shilling Arsenic
No Astrobiology Seems Apparent
No Astronauts See Anything
Nobody Anywhere Says Anything
Nobody Asked Soviet Advice   -Kalter Rauch
Nocturnal Aperture Shines Always
Noggin Accidentally Struck Above         -EA
Non Affirming Sidetracked Analysis
Non Aperature System Alter   
Non April Sense Applicable
Non Ascending Science Act
Non Attainable Samples Aquisition
Nootropics Are Standard Above
Northern Azimuth Southern Altitude
Nose Appropriations Snot Abundantly
Nose Appropriations Stick Abundantly
Not A Satanic Altar
Not About Science Anymore
Not About Space Anymore
Not Always Same Agenda
Not Always So Awake
Not Another Spiff Apparition
Not Another Stall Agreement
Not Another Stupid Answer
Not Any Such Anomaly
Not Anybody Says Anything
Not Anymore Serious Asskissers
Not Anymore Silly Asskissers
Not Anymore Stupid Asskissers
Not Anything Seen Alright
Nothing Above Same Ahead
Nothing Answers Serious Allegations / Joker Pokes Lies
Notoriously Ambiguous Scientific Aptitude
Novel Antenna Steers Aliens
Novus Around Stairway Ascends
Now Active Search Application
Now Acts Snake Attacks - EA
Now Admit Slime Allover
Now Admit Spores Allover
Now Alien Slime Allowed
Now Alien Spores Allover
Now Alien Spores Allowed
Now Aliens Shitting Astrobiologists
Now Aliens Shitting Astrophysicists
Now Allowed Shouts Aloud
Now Analysis Studies Accountable
Now Another Senseless Acquisition
Now Another Serious Asskisser
Now Another Serious Asskissing
Now Another Silly Analysis
Now Another Silly Asskisser
Now Another Silly Asskissing  
Now Another Stall Agreement
Now Another Stupid Asskisser
Now Another Stupid Asskissing  
Now Anxious Serious Asskisser
Now Anxious Serious Asskissing
Now Anxious Silly Asskisser
Now Anxious Silly Asskissing  
Now Anxious Stupid Asskisser
Now Anxious Stupid Asskissing  
Now Assumptional Studies Allowed
Now Astrobiologists Shilling Arsenic
New Angular Spin App -EA
Noxious Animosity Space Administration  - Vianova & Kalter
Never Announcing Secrets Anytime / Just Poke & Lie - rhw007
Never Attempted Serious Answers Jokes Poking Lying - rhw007
Never Attempt Something Astounding Jokingly Playing Lipservice - rhw007
Never Attempted Serious Answers Jackass Pokers Limps
Never Attempted Serious Answers Jackass Pokers Lumps
Never Admit Something Alternative Joking Public Laypersons "FAKE NEWS"
Nobody Assfracks Something Anybetter & Jokie Pokie La'nuckledragers "MEANSTREAM NEWS"
Not Always Scientific Analysis - deo
Not Answering Simple Asks - rhw007
New Adventures Stalled Always  /  Just Prolonging Lies  - rhw007
Never Achieve Swiftly Apologies  -rhw007

Bob... Ninja Gangup

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  For my Birthday
Posted by: Fsbirdhouse - 12-08-2017, 04:07 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - No Replies

Last Sunday Jan gave me an almost pristine, unsigned, first year Federal duck stamp

Value, about $700.
Belonged to her dad, but her Mother just passed, and as we were at Oregon last week for funeral; she and sisters were going thru her Moms stuff and found their late Dad's stamp collection, and that was in it.
Very rare.

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  DNA Study Debunks the Yeti?
Posted by: Wook - 12-01-2017, 09:31 AM - Forum: Anomalous Herald News - No Replies

DNA Study Debunks the Yeti?
November 29, 2017

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A study of purported Yeti samples from the Himalayas indicates that the legendary creature may be, rather than something abominable, merely just a bear.
The remarkable findings arrive by way of a newly-published scientific paper which details how a team of biologists examined mitochondrial DNA extracted from nine different specimens said to have come from the cryptid.
Among the 'pieces' of Yeti that provided the genetic information were hair samples, a tooth, a bone, and some scat.
When researchers looked at that mtDNA, they found that an overwhelming eight out of the nine samples were revealed to have actually come from different species of bears that roam the Himalayas.
Sadly for those holding out hope that the one 'anomalous' specimen wound wind up being the Abominable Snowman himself, that outlier was just something that had come from a dog.
As one can imagine, the paper's findings have spawned a slew of headlines declaring the Yeti to be 'dead' thanks to what appears to be a thorough scientific debunking of the legendary creature.
However, fans of the creature should not start mourning just yet as the small sample size studied by the group does not necessarily speak for the whole of the Yeti legend.
Between eyewitness accounts and the simple fact that it's impossible to prove a negative, it's safe to say that the creature will live on, at the very least, in legend for a long time to come.
And, as its cryptozoological 'cousin' Nessie taught us this year, all it takes is a handful of sightings to resurrect an iconic beast from the proverbial grave.
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  Brown Bear Armed with Two Guns Is Apparently on the Loose in Siberia
Posted by: Citizen Quasar - 11-28-2017, 01:30 AM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (2)

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  `Oumuamua, the first known interstellar asteroid,
Posted by: Wook - 11-27-2017, 10:34 AM - Forum: Hidden Mission Review - Replies (14)

That Interstellar Asteroid is Pretty Strange. Could It Be…?

By Corey S. Powell | November 23, 2017 10:36 am

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Illustration of `Oumuamua, the first-known interstellar asteroid. Its unusual shape and color offer cryptic clues about the nature of objects from other solar systems. The challenge now is to find more of these messengers from the stars. (Credit: ESO/M. Kornmesser)
It isn’t aliens. It’s never aliens.
That’s the only sensible answer whenever astronomers spot something truly weird in space. That unusual radio blip from the planet Ross 128b? Not aliens. Potential SETI signal SHGb02+14a? Not aliens. The mysterious ‘alien megastructure’ star? Probably not aliens, either. There are so many unexplored natural explanations for unusual phenomena, and so many ways to make errors, that the starting assumption has to be no, no, a thousand times no, it is not aliens.
Then astronomers observed `Oumuamua, the first known interstellar asteroid, as it raced out of the solar system. Its wildly elongated shape resembles that of a rocket stage or–even more enticingly–the interstellar ship from Arthur C. Clarke’s science-fiction novel Rendezvous with Rama. Soon sober-minded reporters (including this one) were exchanging curious messages: Could this ‘asteroid’ actually be an alien artifact? How would we know?

Deep breath. Let’s take this one step at a time. On October 19, the automated Pan-STARRS 1 telescope (which is primarily intended to scan the sky for potentially hazardous, Earth-approaching asteroids) detected an unusual object. It was originally regarded as a possible comet, catalogued as C/2017 U1. By the end of the month, though, astronomers could clearly see that it was something much more remarkable.
First, the ‘comet’ had no fuzz; it was clearly not a comet but rather a fast-moving asteroid. It got a new designation, A/2017 U1 (A for asteroid). Much more intriguing, though, was its orbit. It was moving past the sun on a hyperbolic path, a trajectory indicating that it originated from beyond our solar system. It got another new designation, introducing a naming scheme never used before: 1I/2017 U1 (I for interstellar).
The Pan-STARRS team quickly picked a more apt name for such an important object. It’s now known as `Oumuamua (pronounced ‘oh-oo-moo-ah-moo-a’), a Hawaiian word that translates roughly as ‘messenger from the distant past.’
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‘Oumuamua came from the direction of Vega. It’s now racing back out to interstellar space at 26 kilometers per second. (Credit: ESO/K. Meech et al)
Researchers had long theorized that space should be full of comets and asteroids ejected from other solar systems during their early days. Their models showed that planetary formation is a messy business, with many small objects kicked out as big proto-planets form. `Oumuamua is the first proof that they were right. It’s also our first direct look at an intact visitor (as opposed to dust specks) from another solar system.
We didn’t get much of a chance to study it, unfortunately. By the time `Oumuamua was discovered it was already past the sun, on its way back to the stars and off into the darkness. Astronomers at the world’s major observatories rushed to see what they could learn from it. They began amazing, rapid-fire studies. And what they found was…rather odd.
`Oumuamua rotates rapidly, every 7.3 hours. As it spins, its brightness changes drastically, indicating a highly elongated shape. Karen Meech at the University of Hawaii’s Institute for Astronomy concluded that the asteroid is about 400 meters long but only one tenth as wide. It’s shaped like a fat cigar, or maybe more like a fire extinguisher–an apt point of comparison, since the asteroid is also very red, similar to some of the objects in our solar system’s distant Kuiper Belt but also broadly similar to some metallic asteroids.
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Sharply varying brightness of `Oumuamua indicates a thin, tubular shape, like a more extreme version of known comets and asteroids…or like some fictional starships. Dots indicate brightness measurements; white dashes show the modeled light curve for a object 10 times as long as it is wide. (Credit: ESO/K. Meech et al)
Those unexpected traits caught the attention of a number of armchair scientists on Twitter, especially after the European Southern Observatory released a pair of evocative (albeit highly speculative) illustrations of `Oumuamua, including the one at the top of this post. Several leading researchers got drawn into the conversation as well.
The thing doesn’t look natural. So here we are again: Could it be artificial? How would we know?
First, there could be the obvious giveaways. It might be emitting radio signals or some other artificially modulated form of radiation. (We didn’t see that.) It might adjust its course in some way. (We didn’t see any deviation from a normal gravitational path.) It might give off a heat signature indicating some kind of engine or internal energy source. (We didn’t see that either, although nobody has looked at `Oumuamua in the far infrared.)
Then the chatter moved on to more elusive speculations. Could this be a dead, abandoned spaceship? Could it perhaps be instrumented but not actively powered? Jason Wright from Penn State summarized some of the conversation in a helpful, nicely skeptical blog post.
There are so many ET ideas to consider that it’s impossible to state with complete certainty that `Oumuamua is not somehow associated with an intelligent alien civilization. Still, Occam’s Razor says it’s unlikely that the very first object we ever see from interstellar space just happens to be a spaceship–a slow, inert, disguised spaceship–built by aliens. Aliens whom we have no evidence actually exist, incidentally.
Fortunately, we can do better than that. Andy Rivkin at Johns Hopkin’s Applied Physics Lab reminded me of a great test case. In 2002, astronomers noticed a small, fast-spinning object in an unusual Earthlike orbit. Spectroscopic observations revealed rough matches with aluminum and paint containing titanium oxide. The object was quickly identified as an Saturn V rocket upper stage, probably from Apollo 12.
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A Saturn V third stage like the one discovered adrift in 2002. If something like this arrives from deep space, we will know. (Credit: NASA)
In other words, artificial objects tend to look artificial. Granted, we knew what to look for when trying to identify an Earth rocket. Granted further, an alien artifact that has been floating through space for millions of years could be heavily altered by radiation and micrometeorites. But still–there’s nothing about `Oumuamua that looks fake. Just weird.
Which brings me to the final, most exciting point. `Oumuamua is not the end of the story; it is just the beginning. The planet-formation models suggest that one to ten interstellar objects pass through our solar system every year! We haven’t seen them before because they tend to be fast and faint. New tools like the Pan-STARRS survey finally caught one that happened to pass especially close to the sun.
Future surveys will be more sensitive, and now scientists will be looking more actively for other visitors to see if they are like `Oumuamua or if they are something else entirely. The Large Synoptic Survey Telescope will be revolutionary in that regard. Right now, `Oumuamua is in a class of one. We don’t now if it is an outlier or if it is somehow typical of the objects that zoom past us from other star systems. Soon, though, we will have a whole catalogue of such objects to study and puzzle over.
We will learn about their compositions, their shapes, their trajectories through the galaxy. Already we can see from its motion that `Oumuamua does not seem to be associated with any of the nearby stars. We will see how many interstellar objects are rocky asteroids and how many are icy comets. We will begin to collect direct evidence of what happened to planets in other star systems, so we can compare their history to our own.
And maybe, must maybe–I know, I’m inching back onto the crazy train here–but if any of those objects show any sign of artificial origin, there’s an excellent chance we’ll know that, too.
Follow me on Twitter for the latest science news: @coreyspowell

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  So, what's for Christmas?
Posted by: Fsbirdhouse - 11-25-2017, 04:26 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (27)

For those of you who still do celebrate the Holiday.

Do you usually travel out of your area to spend it with family?......No
Do you do the traditional foods?.......Yes
Put up a tree?.....Yes
Other decorations in the house?....Yes
Decorate outside at all?....Not anymore. Balance ain't what it used to be, and I ain't gonna do a Griswold.
Enjoy Christmas music?....Yes
Besides EA....Who else goes caroling?

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  Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
Posted by: Fsbirdhouse - 11-23-2017, 12:40 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (5)

36* at 8:40 AM and forecast to climb to 60* today. Warmest Thanksgiving I've seen in 28 years.

I'm wondering if we won't have a 'Brown Christmas' in snow country this year?

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  Just a dog
Posted by: The Watcher - 11-15-2017, 02:53 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (7)

We had to put our dog down yesterday, he was 15 and his hips had gone, the vet was here last week and we tried to extend his time with us, but, sadly it did not work, and yesterday we had to ease his pain. Some would say, he is just a dog, but, he was my friend, we got him as a 9 week old pup, and holding him as the vet gave him the 2 injections was the hardest thing I have ever done. I cried like a baby after it was over, and Rowdy had passed. Our other dog is very strange today, for me there is a hole im my life.

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