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Posted by: Fsbirdhouse - 09-26-2020, 07:43 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (1)


Sometimes, the first warning you get is already too late!
You know what he did, don't you?

No Jerry, you didn't just have a heart attack.
That is your belt buckle.

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  Enceladus & Europa: profusely populated with microbial life and The 3 Monkeys at NASA
Posted by: Vianova - 09-21-2020, 02:49 AM - Forum: thehiddenmission.com/KeithLaney.net Site Discussion - Replies (2)


We need a thread on Enceladus and Europa. 
They are too important for NASA to ignore anymore.
They should send a mission to Enceladus,
before they send a mission to the clouds of Venus,
or a submarine to Titan.
Europa should have been landed on before NASA performed the Pluto Fly  Hi Bye. 

Fly  Hi Bye's are bullshit missions.
You either go into orbit or land there.

These moons with subsurface oceans which will produce massive evidence of life.
Just like Mars will,
when NASA actually decides to really look for life there,
rather than in "el cheapo" missions that are designed to pretend to find evidence of life.

The 3 monkeys at NASA Whip
See No Life
Hear No Life
Speak No Life

These NASA monkeys run the Decadal survey corruption of space mission funding.
Otherwise we would already have missions landing on the two moons,
if NASA really wanted to find evidence of life.

But you don't want to hear about all that NASA nonsense, it is old hat and been repeated many times.
Long story made short,
we need priority missions to Enceladus and Europa,
certainly before anything goes to Venus or Titan.

So aside from the NASA mumbo jumbo  Naughty about wanting to find life on Mars or elsewhere,
there is life on Europa and especially Enceladus.

So I simply want a spot to warm up any developments for Europa and Enceladus.

Enceladus' Tiger Stripes glow red in new global mosaic

excerpts from the article:

Quote:Data captured by the Cassini spacecraft has been used to create a global infrared map,
of the Saturnian moon Enceladus. 

The icy world plays host to the dramatic "Tiger Stripe" vent formation Whip
 which leads down to a massive subsurface ocean that, 
it's long been speculated, 
could play host to extraterrestrial life.

Cassini captured stunning imagery of the icy moon, 
and a horde of data that scientists are still picking through today, 
long after the probe ended its mission by plunging into the swirling depths of Saturn’s cloud surface.

It was from this data,
that scientists constructed a new global infrared mosaic of Enceladus’ frigid surface. 
More specifically, 
researchers used data collected by Cassini’s Visual and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer, 
which was capable of characterizing the temperature, 
makeup and crystallinity of the water ice grains that form the moon’s surface.

The team took this information and performed photometric corrections Hmm2
which takes into account and corrects variations in the data 
caused by different surface materials, 
their shape, 
and the angle at which they are viewed. 
These corrections revealed new details, 
and highlighted deviations in the composition and state of the moon’s surface.

In the resulting infrared views of Enceladus, 
the moon’s iconic Tiger Stripe formation can be seen to glow an angry red, 
which is indicative of the presence of newly deposited freshwater ice. 

This fresh material would have been drawn from Enceladus’ subsurface ocean, 
and ejected from the vents in the moon’s surface to settle on the surrounding terrain.

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Posted by: Fsbirdhouse - 09-11-2020, 01:42 AM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (5)

Word on the streets.
Most of my, and nearly all the wife's family live in the Salem, Oregon area. Small groups of people are being caught with full cans of gas setting, or trying to set fires in hay stacks or other high risk localities around the farms. Some have now been arrested. Can't help but wonder if this is the result of that BLM leader's threat to burn the system down?

Now I can't think of a more effective plot given the Liberal judges releasing those guilty of just any kind of crime.
Insanity, insanity. Our part of the world gone crazy!

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  Quiet forum
Posted by: Fsbirdhouse - 08-23-2020, 01:22 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (6)

With all the activity being directed on Space, there is at least something to discuss here.
Of course I'm just waiting for boots on the ground so I can say "I told you so".

Now I've broken cover merely for the sake of spurring you all on to trash me for being arrogant, and if posting a target on my back to get a conversation on point again is what it takes...so be it.

Let's start with this.
"The ruins on Mars are occupied"

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  The Doors Of Perception
Posted by: Kalter Rauch - 08-06-2020, 04:36 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (14)

This device is based upon experimenting with the hypnagogic state as sleep is triggered.


As sleep takes effect, 
there is the possibility of consciousness 
during the transient hypnagogic stage,
which involves neural states
like paralysis required to prevent REM dream "acting out".
One of the most reported hypnagogic "lucid dreams"
is being unable to move while frightened by an ...... "entity" 
which may be sitting on one's chest!

The idea is to insert an audio cue indicating the onset of hypnagogia
and thereby enter a lucid state.

This book talks about how Salvador Dali and Thomas Edison experimented...


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  Perseverance and Ingenuity NASA’s Mars 2020 vision/mission manifests.
Posted by: EA - 07-29-2020, 10:33 PM - Forum: Hidden Mission Review - Replies (4)

Mars 2020 ready for launch
by Jeff Foust — July 28, 2020
[Image: mars2020.jpg]Mars 2020, on schedule for launch July 30, will kick off an ambitious effort to collect samples for return to Earth by future missions. Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech

WASHINGTON — NASA’s Mars 2020 mission has passed its final review ahead of a July 30 launch that will kick off an ambitious effort to return samples of the red planet to Earth.
NASA announced July 27 that Mars 2020 completed its launch readiness review, confirming that the spacecraft and its Atlas 5 launch vehicle are ready for launch. The Atlas 5 will roll out to the pad at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida July 28, with launch scheduled for 7:50 a.m. Eastern July 30.
Weather is forecast to be favorable for the launch. At a July 27 briefing at the Kennedy Space Center, Jessica Williams, launch weather officer at the U.S. Space Force’s 45th Space Wing, said there was an 80% chance of acceptable weather for the July 30 launch attempt, improving to 90% if the launch slips one day.

Nearly an hour after the United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 541 lifts off, its Centaur upper stage will release the Mars 2020 spacecraft, having placed it on a Mars-bound trajectory. The spacecraft will arrive at Mars on Feb. 18, 2021, and attempt a landing in Jezero Crater, a large crater on the planet that once was home to a river delta.
The Mars 2020 rover, named Perseverance, is based on the Curiosity rover that has been on Mars for nearly eight years, but with a number of changes. “It’s clearly a more sophisticated vehicle,” Matt Wallace, Mars 2020 deputy program manager, said of Perseverance. “We’re carrying about 50% more surface payload than Curiosity did, and that was by far the most complex thing we had ever done up until that time.”
A major driver of that increased complexity is the rover’s mission to cache samples for later return to Earth. “The sampling and caching system is a robotically complex system,” said Jennifer Trosper, another deputy project manager for the mission. Besides its complexity, she noted it has to be “super clean” to avoid any terrestrial contamination of the samples it collects. “That has been the hardest thing to develop on the Perseverance rover.”
Those samples will be returned on a pair of missions, an orbiter and lander, projected to launch in 2026 in a cooperative effort between NASA and the European Space Agency. Both missions are still in their earliest phases of development, with no cost estimates yet released. Mars 2020 cost NASA $2.4 billion, with another $300 million budgeted for the rover’s first Martian year of operations.
Another factor in the mission’s complexity is the addition of Ingenuity, a small helicopter that will be carried to Mars with Perseverance. After landing, Perseverance will release Ingenuity, which will then perform a series of flight tests to demonstrate the ability for powered, controlled flight in the planet’s thin atmosphere.
Ingenuity was added to the mission relatively late in its development, and Wallace said that it required a “little bit of a magic trick” to accommodate it. “It’s a very, very unusual payload,” he said. “Our team was oversubscribed with engineering challenges.”
JPL engineers, with support from Lockheed Martin, were able to accommodate Ingenuity by attaching it to the rover’s underside. “We’ll be ready to go when it’s time to fly the helicopter on Mars, but it wasn’t easy,” he said.
A further complication for Mars 2020 was the coronavirus pandemic that hit as the mission was preparing the spacecraft for launch. “Nothing prepared us for what we had to deal with in the middle of March as the pandemic struck,” Wallace said. “We’re working with very limited schedule.” If Mars 2020 doesn’t launch by the middle of August, NASA will have to wait for more than two years for the next launch window.
The pandemic also affected those handling the launch itself. “I would never have thought that a launch director would be working from home,” said Omar Baez, the NASA launch director for Mars 2020.
He noted that, in contrast to launch readiness reviews for previous missions that were often standing room only, the review for Mars 2020 has fewer people in the room, with those in attendance wearing masks. “There’s a challenge and a penalty that goes with doing those things,” he said. “I’ve seen the team react and overcome all that, and it makes me very proud.”


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  Pentagon admits.
Posted by: Fsbirdhouse - 07-28-2020, 04:11 PM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (17)

So, This is several days old from Fox news, but Tucker is saying the Pentagon is going to release info about "Material" from supposed Off-World machines they have 'IN-HAND' that our scientists cannot duplicate or identify.
What have folk here heard about this revelation?

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  On a long march to answer 'heavenly Questions:Tianwen-1 orbiter and rover to Mars.
Posted by: EA - 07-19-2020, 08:45 PM - Forum: Hidden Mission Review - Replies (8)

Long March 5 rolled out for July 23 launch of China’s Tianwen-1 Mars mission
by Andrew Jones — July 17, 2020
[Image: CZ5-Y4-rollout-Tianwen1-17072020-CASC-1-879x485.jpg]Rollout of the Long March 5 to launch the Tianwen-1 Mars mission. Credit: CASC

HELSINKI — China is preparing to launch its Tianwen-1 Mars orbiter and rover next week with the rollout of the mission’s Long March 5 launch vehicle.
The roughly 878-metric-ton heavy-lift Long March 5 was vertically transferred to its launch area at the coastal Wenchang Satellite Launch Center late Thursday Eastern. 
The rollout indicates that China will launch Tianwen-1, the country’s first independent interplanetary mission, next week.

Final examinations and tests will be conducted before the launch, according to Chinese media. No launch date was announced, instead reports stated liftoff will take place between late July and early August.
Previous Long March 5 launches have seen a six-day period between rollout and launch. This suggests the launch will occur around July 23.
If successful the spacecraft will arrive at Mars in February 2021. The rover, inside an entry vehicle atop the orbiter, will remain attached to the orbiter in Mars orbit for 2-3 months before the landing attempt, a paper published in Nature this week confirms.
“The vertical transport of the rocket to the launching area has shown that we have made good preparations for the launching mission. We will stick to the strict and careful working attitude in the coming days,” Ge Xiaochun, chief engineer at the China National Space Administration, told Chinese media.
“The Mars probe is the first step of China’s planetary exploration project. The coming launching mission has been highly recognized and supported by the international community. We hope to contribute Chinese wisdom, ideas and solutions to the world for peaceful use of the space,” Ge said.
Tianwen-1 orbiter and rover
The Tianwen-1 orbiter carries seven science payloads. It is equipped with a high-resolution camera comparable to HiRise on board NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. It also carries a medium-resolution camera, subsurface radar, mineralogy spectrometer, neutral and energetic particle analyzers and a magnetometer. The orbiter, designed to operate for one Mars year, or 687 Earth days, will also play a relay role for the mission rover.
The roughly 240-kilogram solar-powered rover is nearly twice the mass of China’s ‘Yutu’ lunar rovers. It will carry a ground-penetrating radar, multispectral camera and a Laser Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy instrument. Other payloads will analyze the climate and magnetic environment. The rover will attempt to land in a southern section of Utopia Planitia where it is designed to operate for 90 Mars days.
The Institute for Space Research of the Austrian Academy of Sciences assisted in the development of the orbiter’s magnetometer. The L’Institut de Recherche en Astrophysique et Planétologie under French space agency CNES was involved in the Laser Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy instrument. Additionally, the European Space Agency’s Estrack ground stations will provide support during the early launch phase. Argentina space agency CONAE also has an unspecified role, according to logos present on the payload fairing.
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Long March 5
The Long March 5 was delivered on a roughly 30 by 20-meter launch platform, with a 70-meter-tall umbilical tower. Rollout from the assembly building to the launch area took two hours. 
This will be the fourth Long March 5 mission. The second, in July 2017, failed due to an issue with the rocket’s first stage engines. The launcher was subsequently grounded for over 900 days while the issue was being isolated and addressed. The third mission in December 2019 was a high-stakes return-to-flight, success of which cleared the way for the Tianwen-1 launch.
The Long March 5 is part of a new generation of Chinese launch vehicles which use combinations of liquid hydrogen or kerosene fuel with liquid oxygen. These both expand China’s launch capabilities but could also eventually replace the older, hypergolic Long March rockets.
The 5-meter-diameter Long March 5 core stage is powered by two YF-77 hydrolox engines. Each of four 3.35-meter-diameter side boosters are powered by a pair YF-100 kerolox engines.
The Long March 5 is capable of delivering 14 metric tons to geostationary transfer orbit, 8.2 tons to trans-lunar injection, or 6 tons to trans-Mars injection. Tianwen-1 has a mass of around 5 tons.
The fifth Long March 5 is expected to launch the Chang’e-5 lunar sample return late this year. The second launch of the Long March 5B, a variant for LEO launches, will then launch the core module of the Chinese Space Station as soon as early 2021.


Chinese Spacecraft Poised for First Mars Mission
Tianwen-1 will attempt to send an orbiter, lander and rover to the Red Planet, a historically difficult destination

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Illustration of the Tianwen-1 lander and rover on Mars. Credit: CNSA
With a five-meter-wide, 57-meter-tall rocket waiting to blast off from China’s southern island of Hainan, the nation is quietly making final preparations for its first independent trip to Mars. When the launch window opens in mid-July, Chinese scientists will strive to send a probe to a planet that confused their ancestors with its constantly changing brightness and position in the sky.
The spacecraft, called Tianwen-1, or the “Quest for Heavenly Truth,” will carry 13 scientific instruments to examine the Red Planet from orbit and on its surface. Tianwen-1 will examine how water ice is distributed on Mars, as well as the planet’s physical evolution and its habitability over time. The mission—consisting of an orbiter, lander, and rover—is “the most ambitious thing one could do on a first attempt,” says John Logsdon, a space policy expert at George Washington University.


[*]The odds of a flawless mission are daunting: Of humanity’s dozens of attempts to orbit or land on Mars to date, only about half have succeeded. After some high-profile setbacks, NASA has deployed five landers, four rovers and multiple orbiters that have brought the world to life for scientists and the public alike. But China’s spacefaring experience beyond Earth orbit has been limited to several robotic moon missions and an orbiter that piggybacked on a failed Russian mission to the Martian moon Phobos in 2011.

Two major risks confront the five-metric-ton Tianwen-1, Logsdon says. First, China’s most powerful heavy-lift rocket, Long March 5, has only launched three times—including a major failure in 2017, when the rocket started to malfunction shortly after takeoff. It took more than two years for scientists to fix Long March 5’s core-stage-engine problem and score a successful flight in late 2019. Its track record makes observers nervous, however.
Second, Tianwen-1’s lander must navigate the challenging Martian atmosphere, which is thick enough to overheat the probe but too thin to decelerate it sufficiently. The spacecraft’s entry, descent and landing technology uses a heat shield, a parachute and a retro-engine to slow its descent, an arrangement resembling that of earlier U.S. missions. Yet when the vessel is just 100 meters above the surface, it will pause, take snapshots of the area and quickly calculate the best landing spot. Then it will shift horizontally to center above that spot and carefully touch down with the lander’s four legs.
In November 2019 China tested this part of the landing procedure, which the nation had previously used successfully in its moon landings, in the province of Hebei. Foreign officials were invited to watch the test on-site. It was the last major public event for Tianwen-1, however. Since then, the China National Space Administration (CNSA) has kept a low profile, and mission scientists have declined or ignored nearly all interview requests.

[*]Should Tianwen-1 land successfully, its research could illuminate new aspects of Mars. For instance, both the orbiter and the rover are equipped with a ground-penetrating radar to chart geologic layers under the surface. The radar on the orbiter can “see” as deep as a few thousand meters, whereas the instrument on the rover has a shallower view but sharp centimeter-level resolution. “China’s main goal [with these radars] is to explore the water-ice layer” under the planet’s surface, says Wlodek Kofman of the Institute for Planetary Sciences and Astrophysics of Grenoble in France.
[*]Tianwen-1’s ability to measure Mars’s magnetic field excites Jim Bell of Arizona State University, principal investigator of the main camera on NASA’s Perseverance rover. One prevailing hypothesis is that the Red Planet used to have a global magnetic field like Earth's, he says. When its smaller molten iron core cooled down, however, Mars gradually lost this shield, exposing the world to solar wind and radiation, thinning its atmosphere and dooming any water that might have flowed on its surface. Since 2014 NASA’s Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution (MAVEN) mission has found ample evidence to support this scenario, but scientists crave a fuller picture. “Tianwen-1 will be very useful in providing more evidence from a different orbit and from the ground,” Bell says. He hopes the Chinese team will share data with the international community piecing together the environmental evolution of Mars.

Tianwen-1 will aim to land in the southern part of Utopia Planitia, a largely flat area between 25 and 30 degrees north of the Martian equator. Geologists have long suspected that this region is covered with ancient mudflows, pointing to stores of bygone water. “It’s an interesting place to investigate potential past subsurface habitability,” says Alfred McEwen, a planetary geologist at the University of Arizona.

[*]The rover’s chance of finding water beneath Mars might be limited by its latitude, McEwen notes. Because it draws its power from solar panels, it must stay near the equator. Today water ice below the planet’s surface, most researchers believe, remains mainly at higher and cooler latitudes.
[*][*]Tianwen-1’s reliance on the sun compelled its team to design hardy instruments, says Rong Shu of the Shanghai Institute of Technical Physics at the Chinese Academy of Sciences. “Since our rover does not have radioisotope power, all the instruments need to endure temperatures as low as –90 degrees Celsius while at rest, and they operate in the temperature range of –40 to –30 degrees C,” he adds.
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The rover's payload includes the Martian Surface Component Detector (MarSCoDe), whose design was led by Shu. Similar to ChemCam on NASA’s Curiosity rover, MarSCoDe can fire short laser pulses to vaporize the surfaces of rocks from a few meters away. The instrument will “sniff” the ionized gas produced by these mini blasts and determine the type and quantity of chemical elements in the rocks.
Tianwen-1 is expected to reach Mars in February 2021. It will spend about two months in a parking orbit, waiting for the best timing and surface conditions to land. China’s expanding radio telescope network of tracking and receiving stations will sustain communications between Earth and the probe.

Already, Chinese scientists are preparing for more missions in the Tianwen series, including ventures to return rock samples from Mars and an asteroid, to perform a flyby of Jupiter and to explore the margins of the sun’s vast heliosphere. But if Tianwen-1 reaches Mars as planned, Logsdon says, “it will put China in the space exploration business in a big way.”


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  Twinkle in The Mind's Eye.. Hope to succeed Emirates Mars Mission
Posted by: EA - 07-19-2020, 05:21 PM - Forum: Hidden Mission Review - Replies (2)

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Live coverage: Emirates Mars Mission counting down to liftoff today from Japan
July 19, 2020 Stephen Clark

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  Is this thing about the Sun for real?
Posted by: Mayito7777 - 05-17-2020, 09:26 AM - Forum: Tell us about it... - Replies (3)


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