05-18-2017, 07:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-18-2017, 08:01 PM by Ancient Vizier.)

I may as well go ahead and rattle off a little bit more as I noticed a couple of things while tidying up my notes, if nothing else this will serve as a note to myself in a convenient place.

As I said, it seems as if Munck may have detected the presence of SRVS 887.6223994 at Tikal. We can see this in some of his "Grid Values" for Tikal's temple pyramids. There is what may be something of a recurring figure in Maler's data, that is also seen in some of Andrews' - for example

Temple II Room 1 - Height (floor to springline) 3.10 m. = 10.17060367 ft. (Andrews)

Temple IV Exterior Doorway Width 310 cm = 10.17060367 ft. (Maler)

Temple IV 1st Chamber Width 124 cm = 4.068241470 ft = 1.017060368 x 4 (Maler)

It's a bit soon to tell but it may also occur as the Width / Height ratio of Temple I's exterior doorway in Maler's data, and it may well occur a number of other places within the Tikal temple pyramids.

I'd rather think things through more carefully, since just starting out, this could mean

Area of a Circle 10313.24031 x (Pi^2) = 10.17876020 / 10^n

(1.031324041 is also the ratio between the "Pyramid Pi Calendrical Year" of 365.020081 and the experimental candidate for a system-valid Lunar Year:

365.020081 / 353.9334584 = 1.031324041 )

But I think Munck may have chosen to interpret the figure as a decimal harmonic of 1.017140346?

2 Radians (57.29577951 x 2) x SRVS 887.6223994 = 1.017140346 x 10^n

(And yes, curiously enough, I haven't found anything that looks like Pi or the Radian at Tikal in either dataset, although I've seen plausible occurrences of both the reciprocal of the Radian, and the Double Radian).

Likewise, we find Munck's "Grid Point" for Temple 1 of 44.368111997 to be 88.76223994 / 2

And we find his "Grid Point" for Temple 4 of 70.63474622 to be 44.368111997 / (2 Pi)

Whether it's because he has interpreted Maler's figure of "88.58" feet for the height of Temple I to its platform as meaning 88.76223994, or Maler's figure of 271 cm = 8.891076115 ft for width of the exterior doorway of Temple I as meaning 8.876223994 (or both) it's hopefully safe to say it appears Munck may believe he has found decimal harmonics of 887.6223994 at Tikal and proceeded accordingly with his calculations.

His "Grid Point" for Temple 3 of 73.00401681 is hopefully enough to raise a red flag in the here and now that he may have hit, whether he realized it or not, an intended value for the ratio between 18980 / 260 = 73

"Arithmetically, the duration of the Calendar Round is the least common multiple of 260 and 365; 18,980 is 73 × 260 Tzolk’in days and 52 × 365 Haab’ days.[17]" (Wikipedia)

(And yes, 73.00401681 = 60 Remens in feet and etc.: 1.216733603 x 60 = 73.00401681)

I'm still a bit inclined to heed Munck's figure of 1.017140346 on several grounds which may be unknown to him, one of them being that 1.017140346 x (Pi^2) = 1.003877301. This ratio occurs in the Great Pyramid at least once, and as we have seen, it serves as an encoding of the Earth's equatorial circumference especially in an environment of 2 Pi, because that is all we need to convert it into the circumference figure

1.003877301 x ((2 Pi)^3) = 249.0119789 = Earth's equatorial circumference value 24901.19789 / 100

I have begun to wonder if the four Tikal temple pyramids that face East and West (parallel to the earth's equator) might specialize in numbers relevant to equatorial figures, with perhaps the North-facing Temple V being a good place to look for equations related to whatever is supposed to be the Pi System's value for the Earth's polar circumference?

It's also piqued my curiosity, however, to discover that 360 / 1.017140346 = 353.9334581, the experimental candidate for a "Matrix-Valid" Lunar Year. Did Munck manage to discover some calendrical and astronomical values at Tikal by following the resonance of the numbers, rather than by thinking calendrical and astronomical thoughts?

BTW, regarding Maler's figure of 1183 cm = 38.81233596 for the length of Tikal Temple I (the temple itself atop the pyramid) that sits next to a possible very literal Earth circumference figure

One of the most literal ways to account for this figure that as far as I know remains unexplained by Munck, is as the value 38.81314683. That's an interesting figure to find atop a pyramid anywhere outside of Giza, since that value is equal to

Height Great Pyramid in MLM Royal Cubits 279.4546572 / (360 x 2) = 38.81314683 / 10^n

That also gives it a special and easily detected relationship to the Great Pyramid's proposed Pyramidion Volume / Base Area ratio of 9.315155235

As we Pi Jedi like to put things when we are showing off, did Thoth order this dumb number to be placed atop Tikal Temple I? Let's ask him...

38.81314683 x 240 = 9.315155235 x 10^n

It may be that Maler might have often been more exacting in smaller measures like this and the doorways and chambers, and less exacting in larger ones, with Andrews perhaps having been the other way around. It's at least one reason I'm hesitant to be too hasty questioning Maler's data even in the face of discrepancies between additional datasets.

There's a third dataset quoted by Wikipedia that I haven't gotten hands on yet but to my reckoning it's still no better than Maler's for certainty about the height of Temple II's levels. I've measured two different frontal photos of Temple II and they both suggest to me that the thicknesses of the bottom two tiers may be equal while the third tier is somewhat less. If that's the way it really is, I don't think any of them have gotten that right yet.

As I said, it seems as if Munck may have detected the presence of SRVS 887.6223994 at Tikal. We can see this in some of his "Grid Values" for Tikal's temple pyramids. There is what may be something of a recurring figure in Maler's data, that is also seen in some of Andrews' - for example

Temple II Room 1 - Height (floor to springline) 3.10 m. = 10.17060367 ft. (Andrews)

Temple IV Exterior Doorway Width 310 cm = 10.17060367 ft. (Maler)

Temple IV 1st Chamber Width 124 cm = 4.068241470 ft = 1.017060368 x 4 (Maler)

It's a bit soon to tell but it may also occur as the Width / Height ratio of Temple I's exterior doorway in Maler's data, and it may well occur a number of other places within the Tikal temple pyramids.

I'd rather think things through more carefully, since just starting out, this could mean

Area of a Circle 10313.24031 x (Pi^2) = 10.17876020 / 10^n

(1.031324041 is also the ratio between the "Pyramid Pi Calendrical Year" of 365.020081 and the experimental candidate for a system-valid Lunar Year:

365.020081 / 353.9334584 = 1.031324041 )

But I think Munck may have chosen to interpret the figure as a decimal harmonic of 1.017140346?

2 Radians (57.29577951 x 2) x SRVS 887.6223994 = 1.017140346 x 10^n

(And yes, curiously enough, I haven't found anything that looks like Pi or the Radian at Tikal in either dataset, although I've seen plausible occurrences of both the reciprocal of the Radian, and the Double Radian).

Likewise, we find Munck's "Grid Point" for Temple 1 of 44.368111997 to be 88.76223994 / 2

And we find his "Grid Point" for Temple 4 of 70.63474622 to be 44.368111997 / (2 Pi)

Whether it's because he has interpreted Maler's figure of "88.58" feet for the height of Temple I to its platform as meaning 88.76223994, or Maler's figure of 271 cm = 8.891076115 ft for width of the exterior doorway of Temple I as meaning 8.876223994 (or both) it's hopefully safe to say it appears Munck may believe he has found decimal harmonics of 887.6223994 at Tikal and proceeded accordingly with his calculations.

His "Grid Point" for Temple 3 of 73.00401681 is hopefully enough to raise a red flag in the here and now that he may have hit, whether he realized it or not, an intended value for the ratio between 18980 / 260 = 73

"Arithmetically, the duration of the Calendar Round is the least common multiple of 260 and 365; 18,980 is 73 × 260 Tzolk’in days and 52 × 365 Haab’ days.[17]" (Wikipedia)

(And yes, 73.00401681 = 60 Remens in feet and etc.: 1.216733603 x 60 = 73.00401681)

I'm still a bit inclined to heed Munck's figure of 1.017140346 on several grounds which may be unknown to him, one of them being that 1.017140346 x (Pi^2) = 1.003877301. This ratio occurs in the Great Pyramid at least once, and as we have seen, it serves as an encoding of the Earth's equatorial circumference especially in an environment of 2 Pi, because that is all we need to convert it into the circumference figure

1.003877301 x ((2 Pi)^3) = 249.0119789 = Earth's equatorial circumference value 24901.19789 / 100

I have begun to wonder if the four Tikal temple pyramids that face East and West (parallel to the earth's equator) might specialize in numbers relevant to equatorial figures, with perhaps the North-facing Temple V being a good place to look for equations related to whatever is supposed to be the Pi System's value for the Earth's polar circumference?

It's also piqued my curiosity, however, to discover that 360 / 1.017140346 = 353.9334581, the experimental candidate for a "Matrix-Valid" Lunar Year. Did Munck manage to discover some calendrical and astronomical values at Tikal by following the resonance of the numbers, rather than by thinking calendrical and astronomical thoughts?

BTW, regarding Maler's figure of 1183 cm = 38.81233596 for the length of Tikal Temple I (the temple itself atop the pyramid) that sits next to a possible very literal Earth circumference figure

One of the most literal ways to account for this figure that as far as I know remains unexplained by Munck, is as the value 38.81314683. That's an interesting figure to find atop a pyramid anywhere outside of Giza, since that value is equal to

Height Great Pyramid in MLM Royal Cubits 279.4546572 / (360 x 2) = 38.81314683 / 10^n

That also gives it a special and easily detected relationship to the Great Pyramid's proposed Pyramidion Volume / Base Area ratio of 9.315155235

As we Pi Jedi like to put things when we are showing off, did Thoth order this dumb number to be placed atop Tikal Temple I? Let's ask him...

38.81314683 x 240 = 9.315155235 x 10^n

It may be that Maler might have often been more exacting in smaller measures like this and the doorways and chambers, and less exacting in larger ones, with Andrews perhaps having been the other way around. It's at least one reason I'm hesitant to be too hasty questioning Maler's data even in the face of discrepancies between additional datasets.

There's a third dataset quoted by Wikipedia that I haven't gotten hands on yet but to my reckoning it's still no better than Maler's for certainty about the height of Temple II's levels. I've measured two different frontal photos of Temple II and they both suggest to me that the thicknesses of the bottom two tiers may be equal while the third tier is somewhat less. If that's the way it really is, I don't think any of them have gotten that right yet.

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