07-13-2017, 05:13 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-13-2017, 06:15 PM by Ancient Vizier.)

There have been several things I thought were compelling arguments for an ancient meter (or ultimately, a few very similar ancient meters) - one is that on top of Yoda's rendering of the Cuicuilco pyramid as a treatise on circular and spherical math (something that may survive even when the maps are thrown out the window), Dimitios Dendrino's rendering of the largest circular pyramid at the Guachimonte's site includes some passages that comment on how close it is to being something of that very nature, and the thing that makes both Dendrinos' proposal and my tentative values for the structure to be correct, is to acknowledge a possible meter of 3.289868134 ft (aka the "Third Meter" or .33333333333 Pi^2 ft) being involved in the design.

"It turns out that not much is available in terms of concrete and detailed measurements, and what’s available is not exact (i.e., at an accuracy of centimeters) but approximate (i.e., in meters). Basically, two measurements have been published regarding CS-2: the length of its circular base (given as about 360 meters), and the geometrically linked diameter of that circle (given as about 115 meters), [1] [3]. We shall use these base measurements, plus an estimated measurement (the cone’s radius r at the top surface of the main frustum cone component of the monument) obtained by observations from numerous photos available, so as to derive the complete mathematical (geometric) specifications of the CS-2 structure.

A note is in order at the outset. If one accepts the 115 meter diameter as a closer approximation, then the corresponding perimeter length should be 361.28 meters. If one accepts the 360 meters measurement as more accurate, then the diameter should be 114.59 meters. This study is carried out based on the 115 meters diameter length (corresponding to 361 meters perimeter, given the value of Pi=3.14159….). It could be carried out based on the 360-meter perimeter approximation, although the results would be sufficiently close to validate the findings presented here. This is left as an exercise for the interested reader.

Obviously, the builders of the structure did not use the current metric system. However, it turns out that they employed a modulus for the monument, and that modulus has a unit length which turns out to be quite close to the contemporary “meter” – a major finding of this study"

https://www.academia.edu/22847225/_Circl..._Astronomy

I found that more compelling than any proposal so far involving a possible ancient meter posted at Tikal as the still unsolved recurring "6.56 feet" (~2 meters) figure of the Tikal temple platforms as obtained from Teobert Maler's data.

What's most compelling to me, though, is the ability of some of my proposed meter values to reduce the proposed values for the earth's circumference down to round figures of 4 x 10^n - little if anything may be quite as universal in ancient symbolism as taking a circle and dividing it into four segments. The equatorial circumference reckoned as "One Zillion Cholulas" or 131594725.4 ft,

131594725.4 ft as equatorial circumference / 3.289868134 ft as meter = 4 x 10^n "meters".

It's a somewhat symbolic value in that context for being somewhat lacking in accuracy - I think it manages to undershoot textbook figures for equatorial circumference by about 22 miles? - but this proposed meter that measures it out that roundly may have often enjoyed more accurate applications measuring much smaller things like monuments and sizable artifacts.

(And yes, because technically this circumference would occur "just under" the surface of the earth, or "just under" a more accurate circumference in simplified geometric models, I'm seriously wondering just how often the ancients might have referred to this as "the underworld").

This same ("Third") meters gives useful responses when used to measure the Great Pyramid as I've traditionally regarded it

Ht Great Pyramid in feet (with paving) 480.3471728 ft / 3.289868134 ft as meter = 146.0080323 "meters"

146.0080323 x 2 = 292.0160647, or 1/10 of the cube root of the Earth's circumference in miles

29.20160647^3 = 24901.19742

So that is sort of a convergence of several geodetic functions when this proposed meter is applied to the traditional GP model.

I don't know what happened to the secret Pyramid chambers. The technology they were using sounded admittedly new and their first outing might have given misleading first results? - but some of the articles I read didn't help much for making it out to be "x rays done with cosmic rays" - I thought that the Great Pyramid already had something of a robust history of giving strange cosmic ray readings?

Personally, I don't quite know why anyone would go to the trouble and then only put one doorway or one passage system in the thing. Maybe someone should go to the same place as the entrance, only on a different side, and try knocking? If that doesn't work, maybe I could try mulling over again what sort of mathematical formulas might have informed "the initiated" where the doors were located?

"It turns out that not much is available in terms of concrete and detailed measurements, and what’s available is not exact (i.e., at an accuracy of centimeters) but approximate (i.e., in meters). Basically, two measurements have been published regarding CS-2: the length of its circular base (given as about 360 meters), and the geometrically linked diameter of that circle (given as about 115 meters), [1] [3]. We shall use these base measurements, plus an estimated measurement (the cone’s radius r at the top surface of the main frustum cone component of the monument) obtained by observations from numerous photos available, so as to derive the complete mathematical (geometric) specifications of the CS-2 structure.

A note is in order at the outset. If one accepts the 115 meter diameter as a closer approximation, then the corresponding perimeter length should be 361.28 meters. If one accepts the 360 meters measurement as more accurate, then the diameter should be 114.59 meters. This study is carried out based on the 115 meters diameter length (corresponding to 361 meters perimeter, given the value of Pi=3.14159….). It could be carried out based on the 360-meter perimeter approximation, although the results would be sufficiently close to validate the findings presented here. This is left as an exercise for the interested reader.

Obviously, the builders of the structure did not use the current metric system. However, it turns out that they employed a modulus for the monument, and that modulus has a unit length which turns out to be quite close to the contemporary “meter” – a major finding of this study"

https://www.academia.edu/22847225/_Circl..._Astronomy

I found that more compelling than any proposal so far involving a possible ancient meter posted at Tikal as the still unsolved recurring "6.56 feet" (~2 meters) figure of the Tikal temple platforms as obtained from Teobert Maler's data.

What's most compelling to me, though, is the ability of some of my proposed meter values to reduce the proposed values for the earth's circumference down to round figures of 4 x 10^n - little if anything may be quite as universal in ancient symbolism as taking a circle and dividing it into four segments. The equatorial circumference reckoned as "One Zillion Cholulas" or 131594725.4 ft,

131594725.4 ft as equatorial circumference / 3.289868134 ft as meter = 4 x 10^n "meters".

It's a somewhat symbolic value in that context for being somewhat lacking in accuracy - I think it manages to undershoot textbook figures for equatorial circumference by about 22 miles? - but this proposed meter that measures it out that roundly may have often enjoyed more accurate applications measuring much smaller things like monuments and sizable artifacts.

(And yes, because technically this circumference would occur "just under" the surface of the earth, or "just under" a more accurate circumference in simplified geometric models, I'm seriously wondering just how often the ancients might have referred to this as "the underworld").

This same ("Third") meters gives useful responses when used to measure the Great Pyramid as I've traditionally regarded it

Ht Great Pyramid in feet (with paving) 480.3471728 ft / 3.289868134 ft as meter = 146.0080323 "meters"

146.0080323 x 2 = 292.0160647, or 1/10 of the cube root of the Earth's circumference in miles

29.20160647^3 = 24901.19742

So that is sort of a convergence of several geodetic functions when this proposed meter is applied to the traditional GP model.

I don't know what happened to the secret Pyramid chambers. The technology they were using sounded admittedly new and their first outing might have given misleading first results? - but some of the articles I read didn't help much for making it out to be "x rays done with cosmic rays" - I thought that the Great Pyramid already had something of a robust history of giving strange cosmic ray readings?

Personally, I don't quite know why anyone would go to the trouble and then only put one doorway or one passage system in the thing. Maybe someone should go to the same place as the entrance, only on a different side, and try knocking? If that doesn't work, maybe I could try mulling over again what sort of mathematical formulas might have informed "the initiated" where the doors were located?

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