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The Gov't will Go to the Moon and Mars, Rite after this commercial break...
Lunar infrastructure is a nice story,
but is all the money involved here just to produce a militarized fuel {water} mining depot?
What other source of income is derived from a lunar base that Bezos wants to become a city?
His proposed base:

Quote:... moon’s polar regions ... craters in those regions contain reserves of water ice ... 
That ice could be converted into liquid water for drinking, 
hydrogen for fuel, 
and oxygen for breathable air.

And so could the asteroids, which include M type asteroids like Psyche,
with far greater financial and colonization potential.

So Bezos lunar base becomes the first step in establishing a corporate-military fuel extraction depot,
for the huge space station to be built in space.

His Amazon postal express service to the moon base is amusing.
Who is paying for that?
He wants the taxpayer to ultimately foot the bill.

Musk's idea for a Mars base is a better springboard to the future of space colonization.
Plenty of water to tap into on Mars.
Establishing bases on Mars is more of a giant step forward approach to it all.

the moon might get crowded fast ... all those fast food Chinese restaurants ...

Im on nights and have just woken up after only 4.5 hours sleep so bear with me.

Would it not make sense to use the Moon first? I mean, it is closer than the asteroid belt, has some gravity, and is probably better shielded against cosmic radiation (guessing here, not too sure).

there is no radiation shielding on your lunar base unless they play out the 3D printed lunar regolith,
to cover the surface domes with,
or dig deep underground bases,
and gravity is much more of A PROBLEM, not a good thing.

Fuel costs soar whenever gravity is involved.
That is why Mars is so tough to colonize.
As a lunar fuel depot, 
there will be constant flights in and out to supply the space station at the LaGrangian Point.

That is one of the beauties of the asteroids.
Small ships can easily tow in asteroids full of ice to an asteroid like Psyche.
The metals in Psyche alone can build ten thousand mega-corporate super sized space stations.

all those metals are concentrated in a 150 km asteroid that was a planetary core. .. Psyche.
The lack of gravity in the asteroid belt makes the entire process much easier.
Psyche will have a little gravity, much less than the moon.

Once mine tunneling gouges it's way into the Psyche interior, 
you have an automatic 150 km space station.
Unless it was already mined Whip
a long long time ago ...
If so,
then it's ready to occupy with little remodeling necessary.

So tell me Watcher,
what are the resources that the moon offers for corporations and countries to work for?
Aside from water "in shaded craters"-- for fuel.

The moon will end up being a series of military bases for different countries,
all trying to capture the avaialble resources.

The space station construction will eventually depend on a lunar base for fuel and water.
But what will the station be constructed of?
moon metal?

Perhaps, there is Titanium and iron available near the surface on the moon,
though the percentages predicted are quite uncertain.
Try and get all those bulk metals off the moon to the space station construction Whip
If there is economically viable extraction of metals from the moon,
to include delivery to the space station construction, 
well that is a possibility.

The asteroids are the big payday, and every space program future knows this.
Especially the M type asteroids.
No deep gravity there is a major benefit.
Psyche will have a little gravity.
Hundreds of thousands of asteroids full of ice are available. 

The country that captures Psyche and other M class asteroids as their own economic protectorates,
are the country's that will control that section of space,
and springboard to the stars.

However, ... Mars is still a better choice IMO, lots of room for lots of Earth governments,
and resources unlimited once a base is permanently established.

We need better propulsion technologies to work the asteroids,
so that travel time is reduced. 

Actually, MAYBE DARPA SWORD is letting 'some' of it's existing tech into main stream by the time the #2020CydoniaRover is to launch:

DARPA & Boeing begin construction of futuristic ‘Spaceplane’ (VIDEO)

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The Pentagon’s research and development agency has announced they are one step closer to building an entirely new class of hypersonic aircraft that will allow for cheaper, more reliable, fully automated space travel as early as 2020.

On Wednesday, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) announced that Boeing will continue to work with them on the next phase of their Experimental Spaceplane (XS-1) program. The goal of the program is to build an autonomous aircraft that’s capable of launching into orbit 10 times over the course of 10 days by 2020.

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“The XS-1 would be neither a traditional airplane nor a conventional launch vehicle but rather a combination of the two,” Jess Sponable, DARPA program manager, said in a news release.
Roughly the size and weight of a modern business jet, the spaceplane, known as the Phantom Express, will be able to take off vertically like a rocket and fly at hypersonic speeds.
The current design of the Phantom Express does not include external boosters like a modern spaceship. It will be powered by an Aerojet Rocketdyne AR-22 engine using liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen propellants.
“This engine has a demonstrated track record of solid performance and proven reusability,” Eileen Drake, president and CEO of Aerojet Rocketdyne, said in a statement.
Once in space, the Phantom Express will be capable of deploying a small satellite weighing up to 3,000 pounds into low-Earth orbit, according to a news release from Boeing. 
On the journey back to Earth, the space plane will land horizontally on a runway, where it can be prepared for the next flight “potentially within hours,” according to DARPA.

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DARPA says the design of the Phantom Express will bring the cost of a launch down to $5 million, ten times lower than current costs.
Boeing has been working with DARPA and two other companies on phase one of the XS-1 project, which involved the development and concept of the design. Now, only the aerospace company will continue to work with the agency on phases two and three, beginning with the construction phase.
After the construction, DARPA and Boeing plan to conduct 10 launches over a period of 10 days to demonstrate the cost efficiency and reliability of the Phantom Express.
The project is scheduled to begin conducting flight tests in 2020.

“Phantom Express is designed to disrupt and transform the satellite launch process as we know it today, creating a new, on-demand space-launch capability that can be achieved more affordably and with less risk,” Darryl Davis, president of Boeing Phantom Works said in a news release.
While DARPA’s goal for the project is focused on bolstering “national security by providing short-notice, low-cost access to space,” they are also encouraging companies to invest in the spaceflight technology.
The agency says they intend to “release selected data from its Phase 2/3 tests and will provide to all interested commercial entities the relevant specs for potential payloads.”
“We’re delighted to see this truly futuristic capability coming closer to reality,” said Brad Tousley, director of DARPA’s Tactical Technology Office (TTO), which oversees XS-1. “Demonstration of aircraft-like, on-demand, and routine access to space is important for meeting critical Defense Department needs and could help open the door to a range of next-generation commercial opportunities.”


Seems we're moving faster & faster to get HUMANITY Off the Planet Quicker.  KNEW they already had the tech, just kept "secret"

Seems "secrecy" is being sacrificed from 'Military Killing Economy' to "Saving Humanity as a Species Economy"  about time Doh 

C'mon DARPA & SWORD you CAN do better, faster, and cause less death around the planet, yet still keep workers busy building our exit from Earth.

& oh, btw = #2020RoverCydonia It is scientific cowardice and bordering on criminality to NOT go there.

With "big shots" in DC getting arrested, jailed, and soon to be jailed from the Wikileaks DNC & #PizzaGate & Seth Rich murder;  you folks better cover your :Butt as well . Ninja

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WTF? This 1949 Science Fiction Novel by a Legendary Rocket Designer Names the Leader of Martian Civilization as "Elon"
Posted by Greg at 06:29, 02 Jun 2017
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In recent years entrepreneur Elon Musk has put himself at the forefront of the emerging commercial space industry with his company SpaceX enjoying multiple orbital rocket launch successes (as well as the development of their self-returning, reusable rocket systems).
Just last year Musk dreamt big when discussing the future of space travel, saying it was his goal to see a million people living on Mars within 50 years. But with a population that large, the logistics and planning wouldn't just involve space travel, but would also have to take into consideration a variety of social, economic and political factors. For instance, Who would be in charge? Who would be mayor, or governor, or president of the Red Planet?
Never fear, the answer may have already been given to us: in 1949, rocket scientist Wernher von Braun - former Nazi rocketeer, soon to be NASA's star rocket designer - wrote a science fiction book about humanity's first mission to Mars. Von Braun put his considerable technical knowledge to use (according to many reviewers, perhaps adding *too* much detail) in writing Project Mars: A Technical Tale. In his story, set in the 1980s, ten large space ships make the journey, a project which required "upwards of 1,000 flights into Earth's orbit" in order to "build, supply and fuel these ten ships, and it is an international, cooperative project."
By chapter 22 of von Braun's novel, the human visitors have discovered a peaceful indigenous civilization that resides underground on Mars (remembering when he wrote it, little was known about the planet's habitability). And then, in chapter 24, we are given an outline of how Mars is governed by this civilization. It's here that we come across a wonderfully surprising discovery:
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Quote:The Martian government was directed by ten men, the leader of whom was elected by universal suffrage for five years and entitled "Elon." Two houses of Parliament enacted the laws to be administered by the Elon and his cabinet.
The Upper House was called the Council of the Elders and was limited to a membership of 60 persons, each being appointed for life by the Elon as vacancies occurred by death. In principle, the method was not unlike that by which the College of Cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church is appointed. Usually the Elon chose historians, churchmen, former cabinet members or successful economic leaders who could offer lifetimes of valuable experience.
Yes, you heard von Braun - one of the progenitors of human space travel - correctly: the leader of Martian civilization is called 'Elon', the same name as Elon Musk, who is currently leading the field of human space travel. Predestination, time vortex, or just a delicious coincidence? Maybe throw this one in the Mars weirdness file with Jack Kirby drawing the Face on Mars in a comic 17 years before it was discovered...
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SpaceX blasts off cargo using recycled spaceship
June 3, 2017

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The SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, with the Dragon spacecraft onboard, is seen at Launch Complex 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Florida, on June 3, 2017
SpaceX on Saturday blasted off a shipment of food and supplies for the astronauts living at the International Space Station using for the first time a vessel that had flown before.

The refurbished Dragon cargo capsule soared into space aboard a Falcon 9 rocket at 5:07 pm (2107 GMT) from Cape Canaveral, Florida.
"Three, two, one, and liftoff," said NASA spokesman Mike Curie as the rocket blazed a steady upward path into the clouds.
The last time this particular spaceship flew to space was in 2014.
The Dragon is packed with almost 6,000 pounds (2,700 kilograms) of science research, crew supplies and hardware and should arrive at the ISS Monday.
The supplies for special experiments include live mice to study the effects of osteoporosis and fruit flies for research on microgravity's impact on the heart.
The spacecraft is also loaded with solar panels and equipment to study neutron stars.
About 10 minutes after launch, SpaceX successfully returned the first stage of the Falcon 9 rocket back to a controlled landing at Cape Canaveral.
The rocket powered its engines and guided itself down to Landing Zone One, not far from the launch site.
"The first stage is back," Curie said on NASA live webcast, as video images showed the tall, narrow portion of the rocket touch down steadily in a cloud of smoke.

SpaceX said it marked the company's fifth successful landing on solid ground. Holycowsmile Several of its Falcon 9 rockets have returned upright to platforms floating in the ocean.

The effort is part of SpaceX's push to make spaceflight cheaper by re-using costly rocket and spaceship components after each launch, rather than ditching them in the ocean.
The launch was the 100th from NASA's historic launch pad 39A, the starting point for the Apollo missions to the Moon in the 1960s and 1970s, as well as a total of 82 shuttle flights.

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China prepares for manned moon landing

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China appears to be nearing its dream to put a man on the moon, with an official saying this week that it would “not take long” before Beijing approved a manned lunar project.
Yang Liwei, deputy director general of China Manned Space Agency, said China is making "preliminary preparations" for a manned lunar mission, state media said.
China confirmed in 2016 its intentions to carry out the mission – which was been touted in recent years one of the key targets of its ambitions plans for space exploration.

But officials speaking at the Global Space Exploration Conference in Beijing this week have gave a clear indication that planning has begun.

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According to a report by Xinhua news agency, Mr Yang, who was China’s first man space in 2003, told a group interview that “it will not take long for the project to get official approval and funding.”
The report did not provide any specific date.
It continued: “Wu Yansheng, president of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC), also said that China is working on a manned lunar landing plan.”
The mission will consist of a manned spaceship, a propulsion vehicle and a lunar lander, Xinhua said, citing Mr Wu.

China in 2003 became the third country to put a man in space with its own rocket after the former Soviet Union and the United States.

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China landed an unmanned spacecraft on the moon in in December 2013. This picture of the moon's surface, taken by the on-board camera of the lunar probe Chang'e-3, is displayed on the screen of the Beijing Aerospace Control Centre

Ten years later it became the third country to carry out a lunar rover mission.
The country also plans to land the first probe ever on the dark side of the moon in 2018, another milestone.
An official said last year that China aims to land a man on the moon by 2036. Tp
China’s spece program is seen as a symbol of the country's rising global stature and technological advancement, as well as the Communist Party's success in reversing the fortunes of the once impoverished nation.

India shows off space prowess with launch of mega-rocket
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New Delhi (AFP) June 5, 2017

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India Monday successfully launched its most powerful home-produced rocket, another milestone for its indigenous space programme which one day hopes to put a human into orbit.
The 43-metre (140-foot) rocket hurtled into a clear sky at 5:28 pm (1158 GMT) from the southern island of Sriharikota, one of two sites used by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) to launch satellites.
Scientists hugged each other and cheered as the 640-tonne rocket lifted off.
"The GSLV - MKIII D1/GSAT-19 mission takes India closer to the next generation launch vehicle and satellite capability," Prime Minister Narendra Modi posted on his Twitter account.
"The nation is proud!"
The rocket boasts a powerful engine that has been developed in India over many years. Programme managers hope to reduce reliance on European engines that have propelled some of India's spacecraft in the past.
The GSLV Mk III rocket carried a satellite weighing more than three tonnes into a high orbit above Earth, a landmark achievement as India had struggled to match the heavier payloads of other space giants.
"They just launched the most powerful engine in India. It is a cryogenic engine, which took them 20 years to develop. Some engineers have spent their life working on this," Mathieu Weiss, a representative in India for France's space agency CNES, told AFP.
The launch is another feather in the cap for scientists at ISRO, who won Asia's race to Mars in 2014 when an Indian spacecraft reached the Red Planet on a shoestring budget.
That feat burnished India's reputation as a reliable low-cost option for space exploration, with its $73 million price tag drastically undercutting NASA's Maven Mars $671-million mission.
ISRO is also mulling the idea of missions to Jupiter and Venus.
- Reaching for the stars -
India is vying for a larger slice of the booming commercial satellite business as phone, internet and other companies seek expanded and more high-end communications.
In February India put a record 104 satellites in orbit from a single rocket, surpassing Russia which launched 39 satellites in one mission in June 2014.
The rocket's main cargo on that occasion was a 714-kilogram (1,574-pound) satellite for Earth observation but it was also loaded with 103 smaller "nano satellites", nearly all from other countries.
Although India has successfully launched lighter satellites in recent years, this latest rocket is capable of carrying a massive four-tonne payload into high orbit -- twice the capacity of its predecessor, ISRO says.
The space agency tested a less-developed version of the rocket in December 2014 while the cryogenic engine was still in the testing phase.
It carried an unmanned crew capsule which separated from the rocket and splashed down in the Bay of Bengal off India's east coast 20 minutes after liftoff.
The Indian-made capsule was designed to carry up to three astronauts but ISRO said it would take at least another seven years to reach the point where a crew could be put into space.
India wants to become the fourth nation -- after Russia, the United States and China -- to put astronauts into orbit but its manned spaceflight programme has experienced multiple stops and starts.
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NASA unveils Mars rover concept vehicle
June 13, 2017 by Bob Granath

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It looks like something out of this world, but that's exactly where it would work. A futuristic Mars rover concept vehicle was recently unveiled at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex with a goal of inspiration and education as NASA continues developing plans for its journey to the Red Planet.

The visitor complex kicked off its "Summer of Mars" promotion with a June 5 ceremony which included former astronaut Scott Kelly. During his appearance, Kelly shared some of his experiences during a one-year stay aboard the International Space Station from March 27, 2015 to Feb. 3, 2016.
According to Rebecca Shireman, assistant manager of public relations for the Kennedy visitor complex, the "Summer of Mars" program will provide a survey of NASA's studies of the Red Planet.
"It's an all-encompassing effort to review the history of our efforts to explore Mars and look ahead to what is being planned," she said. "We hope this will encourage young people to want to learn more about being a part of the effort to go to Mars."
NASA's next robotic Mars rover is set to land on the Red Planet in 2020. The Mars 2020 rover will search for signs of past microbial life and collect core samples for a potentially future return to Earth.
The builders of the scientifically-themed Mars rover concept vehicle, Parker Brothers Concepts of Port Canaveral, Florida, incorporated input into its design from NASA subject matter experts. Construction of the Mars rover was commissioned by the Kennedy visitor complex without use of taxpayer dollars.
The rover operates on an electric motor, powered by solar panels and a 700-volt battery. The rover separates in the middle with the front area designed for scouting and equipped with a radio and navigation provided by the Global Positioning System. The back section serves as a laboratory which can disconnect for autonomous research. While this exact rover is not expected to operate on Mars, one or more of its elements could make its way into a rover astronauts will drive on the Red Planet.
Following several weeks on display at Kennedy's visitor complex, the Mars rover concept vehicle will be displayed at several locations. From July through August, it will be displayed at several locations during a tour along the East Coast.
Shireman explained that the Mars rover concept vehicle will return to the visitor complex to be part of the new Astronaut Training Experience attraction opening in the fall of this year.
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Chicken Experts KFC Partner With Space Flight Experts World View To Send Zinger Chicken Sandwich To Space

Partnership pushes the boundaries of space exploration and fried chicken technology
LOUISVILLE, Ky., June 13, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- KFC and [url=]World View
 announced today that they have partnered to launch the Zinger chicken sandwich to the edge of space and then bring it back, along with telemetry data. Pushing the boundaries of space exploration and fried chicken technology, the mission will be the longest controlled stratospheric balloon flight with a commercial payload in history and the first-ever multi-day mission of the World View Stratollite flight system. 

Unlike typical high-altitude balloons, Stratollites can execute a variety of flight profiles – from circumnavigating the Earth to persistence over a specific location – and maintain position over specific areas of interest for days, weeks, and eventually months on end. The Zinger Stratollite launch window opens on June 21.

From its founding in 1930 by Colonel Harland Sanders, KFC has approached its business with an entrepreneurial and innovative spirit, which lives through partnerships with breaking edge companies like World View. With this application of the Stratollite, together the two brands are showing that rockets are no longer the only way to get payloads to and from space. 

"We're excited to be the ones pushing spicy, crispy chicken sandwich space travel forward," said Kevin Hochman, KFC U.S. president. "But in all seriousness, we're proud to support World View's commitment to advancing space research and trust them to take our world famous Zinger sandwich to space."

Representing enormous untapped potential, Stratollites could serve as stationary Wi-Fi hubs in remote or undeveloped areas that may not have existing internet access, or monitor ongoing crisis situations from a previously inaccessible vantage point. Future flights could be used for disaster preparedness and response – from predicting weather events days in advance, to monitoring ongoing or quickly arising weather and disaster events (for example, forest fire detection) –  ultimately assisting first responders with rapid communications and surveying capabilities.  

"The Stratollite was created to deliver meaningful access to space for all," said Taber MacCallum, World View co-founder and chief technology officer. "This mission offers edge-of-space access to KFC, allowing them to embark upon a one-of-a-kind marketing experiment, while we get to pursue our maiden multi-day Stratollite shakedown cruise and open unprecedented access to the stratosphere. It's a double win."

In April Mission Commander Colonel Sanders announced the arrival of the KFC Zinger in the U.S. as an individual sandwich or as a $5 Fill Up combo meal. Created by KFC, the chicken experts with more than 70 years of experience, the Zinger is made with a double hand-breaded, 100 percent chicken breast filet and served with lettuce and Colonel's mayonnaise on a toasted sesame seed bun. The worldfamous sandwich is available in more than 120 countries, and now available in space for a limited time.

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About KFC 
KFC Corporation, based in Louisville, Ky., is the world's most popular chicken restaurant chain. KFC specializes in Original Recipe®, Extra Crispy™, Kentucky Grilled Chicken® and Extra Crispy™ Tenders, Hot Wings™, Go Cups, KFC Famous Bowls®, Pot Pies, freshly hand prepared chicken sandwiches, biscuits and homestyle side items. There are over 20,500 KFC outlets in more than 125 countries and territories around the world. KFC Corporation is a subsidiary of Yum! Brands, Inc., Louisville, Ky. (NYSE:  YUM). For more information, visit Follow KFC on Facebook (, Twitter ( and Instagram (

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World View's innovative flight technologies offer a unique perspective of Earth from the edge of space. World View delivers meaningful insights to enterprises, agencies, and individuals via two primary business segments: Stratollite un-crewed flight systems and Voyager human spaceflight systems. Stratollites, in operation today, offer low-cost, long-duration, persistent high-altitude flight for enterprise and government agencies. Using advanced stratospheric balloon technology, Stratollite applications include communications, remote sensing, weather, and research. The Voyager human spaceflight experience is under development and will launch in the near future, offering private citizens a comfortable, safe, and perspective-changing voyage to the edge of space via high-altitude balloon. To learn more about World View, visit



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Here’s Elon Musk’s Plan To Build A 1 Million Person City On Mars Starting In 2020

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Tech billionaire Elon Musk published plans Wednesday for building a 1-million-person city on Mars as soon as 2020.
Musk published his paper, titled “Making Humanity a Multi-Planetary Species,” online on the site New Space, laying out his plan to send humans to Mars in the near future. Musk is also the founder of SpaceX, a private rocket company.
“In my view, publishing this paper provides not only an opportunity for the spacefaring community to read the SpaceX vision in print with all the charts in context, but also serves as a valuable archival reference for future studies and planning,” Scott Hubbard, New Space’s editor-in-chief and NASA’s former “Mars czar,” said in a statement.

Making Humans a Multi-Planetary Species
To cite this article:
Musk Elon. New Space. June 2017, 5(2): 46-61.

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Chief Executive Officer SpaceX Hawthorne, California.
This paper is a summary of Elon Musk's presentation at the 67th International Astronautical Congress in Guadalajara, Mexico, September 26–30, 2016. In February 2017, SpaceX announced it will launch a crewed mission beyond the moon for two private customers in late 2018.
Used with permission from SpaceX.

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SpaceX to Launch 1st Satellite for Bulgaria (on a Used Rocket!) Monday

By Irene Klotz, Contributor | June 18, 2017 07:28am ET

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SpaceX test fires a previously flown Falcon 9 rocket booster ahead of its planned launch on June 19, 2017 to send BulgariaSat-1, the first communications satellite for Bulgaria, into orbit from Pad 39A of NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Florida.

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SpaceX is ramping up for its eighth flight of the year on Monday (June 19) with the launch of a communications satellite for Bulgaria aboard a previously flown Falcon 9 booster. It will be the second demonstration by Elon Musk's space company of its ability to reuse its launch-rocket hardware.

Liftoff is scheduled for between 2:10 and 4:10 p.m. EDT (1810 and 2010 GMT) from NASA's Kennedy Space Center Launch Complex 39A, currently SpaceX's only operational pad in Florida. Repairs to the company's original launch site at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, located just south of the NASA spaceport, are underway following an accident nine months ago. SpaceX expects to resume flying from Launch Complex 40 later this year. [In Photos: SpaceX's 1st Reused Rocket Launch (and Landing)]
For now, Musk's team is focused on getting BulgariaSat-1, Bulgaria's first satellite, into orbit. The spacecraft, manufactured by Palo Alto, California-based Space Systems Loral (SSL), will be used for direct-to-home television and communications services to the Balkans and other regions in Europe, as well as North Africa.

A space first for Bulgaria

Satellite operator Bulgaria Sat is a sister company of Bulsatcom, a television, internet and mobile communications company based in Sofia, Bulgaria, that employs about 2,000 people.

"Back in 2010-2011, we started seeing a need to develop the services we were providing," chief executive Maxim Zayakov told "The satellite operator we were using at that time was not able to provide any growth opportunities … We were going to have to move somewhere or create our own home. It was kind of like, “Why move three times? Why not create our own home? We were already holding a license for Bulgarian orbital slots, so why not?  This is the best we could do to do the ultimate quantum leap."

To finance the deal, which is costing about $250 million, Bulgaria Sat turned to the Export-Import Bank of the United States, an independent government agency that provides U.S. businesses, including SSL, with government-backed loans so foreign customers can buy their products.

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BulgariaSat-1, the first communications satellite for Bulgaria, undergoes testing with its solar arrays deployed.

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The Export-Import Bank has been a target of conservatives in Congress and remains mired in political controversies, though President Donald Trump said in April he plans to revive the hobbled agency.

"We have to pay tribute to the U.S. guys who were able to support this program because, frankly speaking, it was going to be totally impossible without their support. Space is not like anything else," Zayakov said. "The programs have a very long horizon. It's not something in the usual telecom world. The commercial banks would usually not support something that would have a horizon of more than five years and that is by far not the case in space."

Bulgaria Sat hired SpaceX on its own in 2007 for a Falcon 9 rocket ride, but the deal later was folded into the SSL contract, which handles manufacturing, launch services, insurance and the first year of satellite operations. Terms of the deal were not released.

Bulgaria Sat, in partnership with SSL, opted last summer to switch to a previously flown Falcon first stage in exchange for an undisclosed discount and earlier launch slot.

Second flight for a Falcon 9

The Falcon 9 rocket that will launch BulgariaSat 2  flew in January 2017 to send a batch of 10 Iridium communication satellites into orbit from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The booster landed itself on a drone barge in the Pacific Ocean.

SpaceX relaunched its first recovered booster on March 30 on a satellite-delivery mission for Luxembourg-based SES.

"The booster provides a good value and at the same time we have full confidence in its performance," Zayakov said. "There was a byproduct that we got a bit earlier launch date too."

SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell estimates that Bulgaria Sat was able to fly about three months sooner by opting for the preflown Falcon. Once operational, BulgariaSat-1 is expected to generate between $24 million and $25 million annually, Zayakov said.  The satellite, which weighs nearly 8,800 lbs. (4,000 kilograms) is designed to last at least 15 years.

Bulgaria Sat services nearly 1 million homes with direct television and other communications services. With the new spacecraft, Bulgaria Sat is aiming to double that figure over the next five years, Zayakov said.
Editor's Note:You can watch SpaceX's Falcon 9 launch of BulgariaSat-1 live via SpaceX's webcast page, which will begin Monday about 1:46 p.m. EDT (1746 GMT). You can also watch the launch webcast here, courtesy of SpaceX.

Looking for Man's origins in a Bulgarian savannah

June 16, 2017

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Palaeontologists work near the site in Bulgaria where a fossilised tooth with three roots was found, which some researchers say may be a sign of the oldest known human ancestor

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Seven million years ago the sunflower and corn fields in parts of southern Bulgaria were like an African savannah, roamed by gazelles and giraffes.

And perhaps also, amazingly, by the oldest known human ancestor—which most scientists have hitherto believed came from Africa.
A small team of researchers hopes to find proof of human origins in Bulgaria as they gingerly recover fossils from the clay of a dried-up river bed near the sleepy village of Rupkite in the June sunshine.
It all began in 2002 when the five-year-old grandson of local amateur paleontologist Petar Popdimitrov found what looked like a fossilised tooth with three roots.
"The whole of it was of a blue-greyish colour. It looked very worn out, especially the chewing surface. We thought that it was an animal one," Popdimitrov, 76, told AFP.
"But my son-in-law, who is a dentist, said in the evening that it might be human."
He might be right, in a way, and the discovery could be nothing short of momentous, potentially proving that humans diverged from apes not in Africa but in the eastern Mediterranean.
In 2007 Popdimitrov showed the tooth to Professor Nikolai Spassov from Bulgaria's National Museum of Natural History and to Denis Geraads from the Musee National d'Histoire Naturelle in Paris.
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Now, 10 years on, a team led by Spassov and Madelaine Boehme from Tuebingen University in Germany have put forward the theory that the tooth matches a jawbone found near Athens in 1944.
Conducting new studies on the jawbone, discovered by German soldiers digging a bunker in World War II, and on the tooth and the fauna in the area of Bulgaria where they were found, the researchers have come up with a bold and controversial theory.
They posit that both items are from a creature called Graecopithecus, and that it was a hominin—the collective term for humans and our direct line of non-ape ancestors. Graecopithecus, the researchers hypothesise, migrated to Africa only later.
Chad competition
Previously it was assumed that the oldest potential hominin was the Sahelanthropus found in Chad in west Africa in 2001, Spassov said, and thought to be around seven million years old.

"Now we think that it was the Graecopithecus found in Greece and Bulgaria because our two finds are several hundred thousand years older," he said.
The male Graecopithecus weighed around 40 kilos (90 pounds), as much as a female chimpanzee today, with massive and powerful jaws capable of chewing tree bark and chestnuts, Spassov said.
"We can also assume that it walked upright," he added.
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Spassov's theory however has been widely criticised in scientific circles for lack of proof, prompting him to search for more evidence.
"This opposition stimulates our desire to find something more than a tooth and a broken jaw," he said.
"That's why we are here—to look for whatever part of a skeleton, preferably pelvis, hip, jaw or skull that will enable us to cement our theory and tell much more about our potential first ancestors."
Chronic lack of funding for scientific research and field trips in Bulgaria, the European Union's poorest country, has limited his team's excavations to just eight days this summer.
But they have unearthed hundreds of fossils that will be carefully cleaned and examined and hopefully turn out to be parts of Graecopithecus. Excavations are also expected to start in neighbouring Greece and Macedonia in September.
The tooth meanwhile will take pride of place in Popdimitrov's new private museum in the town of Chirpan, near Rupkite.
"I have the feeling that I was in contact with something that had lived millions of years ago," he said.
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Quote:it's finally been able to produce biological compounds such as DNA templates, RNA molecules, proteins, and viral particles without any human intervention.

It Rights Itself.
It Writes Itself.
Itza Rite Itself.

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This Machine Could Print Synthetic Life Forms on Demand, And Our Minds Are Reeling
It works.

Quote:Eye Work for You.

Back in 2016, biologist Craig Venter achieved something extraordinary. He built a new species of bacteria from scratch in the lab - the simplest genetic life form known to science, made entirely through chemical synthesis of a custom-made genome.

Now, he's unveiled a new machine that could print these synthetic life forms on demand - simply feed in a genome design, and let the 'ink' form the building blocks of life. The invention could see us colonise Mars with synthetic life without ever setting foot on the Red Planet, and Venter and Elon Musk have teamed up to make this happen.

Called 'biological teleportation', the technique could allow scientists to email the genome from Earth to a printer on Mars, theoretically allowing us to colonise the Red Planet from afar.

"I think biological teleportation is what is going to truly enable the colonisation of Mars," Venter told his biographer Ashlee Vance back in 2015.

"Elon and I have been talking about how this might play out."

The new tabletop prototype, called the digital-to-biological converter (DBC), is the first machine that can receive genetic sequences via the internet or radio waves.

That means it can print the four chemical bases of DNA - guanine, thymine, cytosine, and adenine (G, T, C and A) - via remote control to form various biological components.
"Just like a printer, it needs cassettes, but instead of colours, it's bottles of chemicals," Venter told Jordan Pearson at Motherboard. 

"It's packaging complex biology that each of our tiny cells do remarkably well at a much, much smaller scale."

Venter has been working on this prototype for years now, but a new study describes how it's finally been able to produce biological compounds such as DNA templates, RNA molecules, proteins, and viral particles without any human intervention.

The printer has also made functional influenza viral particles (H1N1), and bacteriophages that can fight bacterial infections.

In the near future, it could print things like food, vaccines, and simple bacterial forms - and maybe someday something far more complex.

"Having alien species being beamed back here and being recreated does sound like science fiction, but it is potentially real," Venter told The Guardian in 2013, when he was still developing the DBC prototype.
Even if Venter's dream of depositing a couple of these machines on the Martian surface is likely many years away, due to the feasibility of lugging them 206 million km (128 million miles) though space, the idea of synthetic life on Earth might be something we're going to have to get used to pretty soon.

In 2016, Venter's team managed to produce a species of bacteria in the lab with just 437 genes - the absolute minimum of genetic code needed to support life (as far we know).

For comparison, the shortest genome in a self-sustaining organism found in nature is 525 genes long, and belongs to Mycoplasma genitalium.

And earlier this year, a separate team of scientists announced that they had successfully produced the first ever 6-letter genetic code, and used it to build 'semi-synthetic' organisms.

"This semi-synthetic organism constitutes a stable form of semi-synthetic life, and lays the foundation for efforts to impart life with new forms and functions," they announced.

New life forms are coming - let's hope Earth and Mars are ready for them.
Venter's machine has been described in Nature Biotechnology.

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I'm still open to volunteering for a 'neural net' implant !

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Eating KFC Zingers!!!

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test market is an experimental research study that measures the likely success of a new ... KFCtested its grilled chicken in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada.


I was One of a Triumverate of 3 Head Cooks that brought you KFC's "Grilled Chicken" to the world wayyy back in the day... I trained a whole City worth of Chicken Flicken Finger-Lickin-gooders  LilD

The boys from Louisville Kentucky invaded our Local Private Franchise when Pepsico bought them and we became corporate.  Naughty

We were the Test Market for a lot of Secret Recipes.
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Video: Developing landing tech for space
June 21, 2017

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A rocket flying several landing technologies was recently flown in the Mojave Desert. These flight tests, coordinated by NASA, are helping to develop technology for precise landings in uneven terrain. Image Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech
Canyons, craters and cracked ice fields on other worlds might be hiding exciting scientific discoveries. But how do we get spacecraft to land on dangerous, uneven terrain?

A new NASA video explains how cutting-edge technologies could help. A system called the CoOperative Blending of Autonomous Landing Technologies (COBALT) is being developed in the Mojave Desert, with participation from several partners, including NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.
JPL's contribution is a computer vision program called the Lander Vision System (LVS). It allows rockets to analyze a site during landing and match it with a pre-loaded terrain map.
COBALT combines LVS with hardware from NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia: a laser-guided device called Navigation Doppler Lidar, which measures velocity as the rocket matches its position with the LVS terrain map. Both technologies have been integrated onto a Xodiac rocket developed by Masten Space Systems.

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NASA getz back in the Retro-Rocket Game.  LilD
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Finally, NASA embraces Elon's BRILLIANT system of navigation to auto-takeoff& then land.

Now NASA MUST prove they've got the 'bugs' out of their OWN model is send that sucker out INTO near LEO and bring it back the same way Elon Musk does on a REGULAR basis when not being attacked by "ETI aka Energy Tech Intelligent competitors"


Still ready to go into Neural-net project, my electrode modes on my temples, other brain and body areas just working fine, no matter what level of 'buzzing' frequencies, no harm to me. Assimilated  I have been building on experience and experiments.  ALL GOOD !!!

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WHAT THE FRACK IS NASA DOING WITH A TINY ROCKET fill of CLOUD of unknown ( for sure maybe CHEMTRAIL) stuff? and cannot launch BECAUSE its too CLOUDY ???

NASA cloud making rocket grounded for 10th time because of... clouds

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Sometimes in life, the sun just doesn’t shine on you and that’s pretty much every day for a NASA rocket trying to blast out of Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia, as adverse weather means it has just been delayed for the tenth time.
Having suffered nine previous launch delays, the NASA Terrier-Improved Malemute sounding rocket was supposed to eventually take off Saturday. However, the day before the launch, NASA, once again, announced that it would have to be delayed because of unsuitable weather conditions.
The launch of the NASA Terrier-Improved Malemute sounding rocket scheduled for Saturday, June 24, has been postponed due to expected cloudiness in the region,” NASA said in a statement.

Clear skies are required for scientists to view the colorful clouds of vapor that will be deployed by the rocket during the flight.
A new launch date has not been determined, the space agency confirmed.
This marks the tenth postponement of the long delayed mission. NASA has been trying to launch the rocket since May 31, with no success.
Reasons for canceling the launch have included high winds, thunderstorms, cloud cover and boats in the hazard area. When it eventually takes off, the total flight time for the mission is expected to be about 8 minutes.
NASA say the goal of the mission is to test a new deployment method for the clouds. Studying the clouds' interactions will help support studies of the ionosphere and aurora.
The vapor tracers are expected to be visible from New York to North Carolina and westward to Charlottesville, Virginia.
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What the FRACK??? CHEMTRAILS from planes becoming TOO obvious for even Sheep

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Quote:The clouds, or vapor tracers, 
are formed 
"through the interaction of barium, strontium, and cupric-oxide,"
according to NASA.

... canisters will be released about 100 miles (160 kilometers) above the ground,
the space agency says they
"pose absolutely no hazard to residents along the mid-Atlantic coast."

That altitude is much significantly higher than your traditional chemtrail.
The barium and strontium however are the old chemtrail components probably used for HAARP.
Nonetheless, they plan on using this method increasingly over time.

Pizza ,beer and Chinese food.

KFC delivery and now Space Sushi???
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Japan announces plans to put a man on the moon by 2030 as 'Asian space race' intensifies
  • This is the first time Japan has announced intentions to explore the lunar surface 

  • The mission will most likely form part of an international collaboration

  • The announcement means Japan is joining the intensifying 'Asian space race'

  • China is also making 'preliminary' preparations for a manned lunar mission 

  • Earlier this month a space official said funding and approving will 'not take long' 
By Harry Pettit For Mailonline
PUBLISHED: 14:47 BST, 29 June 2017 UPDATED: 15:10 BST, 29 June 2017
Japan plans to put a man on the moon by 2030, according to a new proposal by the government's Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (Jaxa).
It is the first time Jaxa has announced its intentions to explore the lunar surface, and will most likely form part of an international mission, the agency said.
Jaxa's plans, announced Wednesday, mean Japan is joining a host of other Asian nations in what is being dubbed the 'Asian space race'.
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Japan plans to put a man on the moon by 2030, according to a new proposal by the government's Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (Jaxa). The mission will most likely form part of an international collaboration, the agency said (file photo)

Since 2009, China has been upping its work in space exploration in a number of stages.
Each stage has been given a name to refer to the mission plans.
Stage 1 'Around': Yinghuo-1 was launched in 2009 with the aim of bringing back samples, but it was left stranded in orbit and disintegrated.
Stage 2 'Landing': Yinghuo-2 is expected to launch in 2020 to collect data on Mars.
Stage 3 'Circular': A rover will be sent to Mars to carry out exploration.

It is the latest in a series of ambitious plans announced by Asian countries, with rising competition for space-related power mirroring the space race raged between the United States and the USSR during the cold war in the mid-20th century.
In December 2016, China announced its intentions to put a man on the moon by 2036, as well as plans to land a rover on Mars by 2020.
India became the fourth country to plant its flag on the moon in 2008, behind the US, Russia and China, and plans to land a second unmanned probe on the lunar surface by mid-2018.
The country is yet to announce plans for a manned mission to moon.
Jaxa's moon mission was proposed to a panel at Japan's Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology this week, which is responsible for directing the country's space exploration.

A Jaxa spokesperson told CNN the plan wasn't to send an exclusively Japanese rocket to the Moon, which would be extremely costly.
They said the proposal was for Jaxa to contribute to a multinational manned lunar probe by contributing technology, which would grant Japan a spot on the mission.
The spokesperson told CNN a plan for Japan's future space exploration would be released by the panel in time for Japan's International Space Exploration Forum in March 2018.
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Since 2009, China has been upping its work in space exploration. This image shows China's Tianzhou-1 cargo spacecraft preparing for launch in Wenchang, Hainan province, on 17 April 2017. It successfully docked with the country's Tiangong-2 space laboratory on 22 April
The country could reach the moon a few years before China, which also has ambitious plans for a manned lunar mission.
Earlier this month it was revealed China is making 'preliminary' preparations to send a man to the moon, the latest goal in China's ambitious lunar exploration programme.
State media cited a senior space official as saying that it will 'not take long' for China's manned mission to the moon to get official approval and funding. 
The comment was the first confirmation that China intended to fund and run a manned lunar programme.
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In April it was revealed that China is talking with the European Space Agency about collaborating on a human settlement on the moon. Pictured is an artist's illustration released by the ESA last year
This week's statement on Beijing's mission was made by Yang Liwei, deputy director general of China Manned Space Agency and China's first man in space.
The report, published June 6, gave no other details, but such a trip could still be many years off.
China in 2003 became the third country to put a man in space with its own rocket after the former Soviet Union and the United States.
It has touted its plans for moon exploration and in late 2013 completed the first lunar 'soft landing' since 1976 with the Chang'e-3 craft and its Jade Rabbit rover.
The country also plans to land the first probe ever on the dark side of the moon in 2018, another milestone.

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Quote:After signing the order, Trump gave Aldrin his pen. 

Trump Signs Executive Order Reestablishing National Space Council: ‘We’re Going to Lead Again’

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President Donald Trump on Friday signed an executive order reestablishing the National Space Council, which he said would launch a “whole new chapter” for the U.S.

“We’re going to lead again. It’s been a long time, over 25 years, and we’re opening up and we’re going to lead again like we never led before,” he said at a ceremony attended by astronauts including Buzz Aldrin.
The space council was last in existence during former President H.W. Bush’s term.

“We’re a nation of pioneers and the next great American frontier is space,” Trump said. “Today we are taking a crucial step to secure America’s future in space.”
Vice President Michael Pence will chair the council, Trump said. Pence then spoke:

Quote:Thanks to the vision of President Donald Trump, welcome to an era of American leadership in space. It will bring us all closer together. You know it’s the greatest privilege of my life to serve as vice president for a president who gets up every day to keep the promises he made to the American people.
Today President Donald Trump will take one step to make sure America leads again in the final frontier. With the action he takes today President Trump will bring a renewed sense of purpose to America’s space policy that will benefit literally every facet of our…life.

Pence said reestablishing the council will help the economy, help create new technologies, enhance security, and inspire children to pursue an education in science, technology, engineering and math, or STEM.
“Under President Donald Trump, American leadership in space will strengthen the spirit,” he said.
After signing the order, Trump gave Aldrin his pen.
About 25 people stood on either side of the podium. The group included three astronauts: Buzz Aldrin, David Wolf, and Benjamin Alvin Drew; Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, and three members of Congress. Also spotted in the room: Omarose Manigault.
After the signing, Trump looked around and asked the room who he should give the pen he signed the order to — and when people responded “Buzz,” he handed Aldrin the pen.
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China Tech: Interesting Bits and Pieces
Posted on June 29, 2017 by Fred Reed
To one watching the advance of Chinese science and technology, or to me anyway, several things stand out. First, the headlong pace. Second, the amount of it that appears aimed at making China independent of the West technologically and getting the United States off Beijing’s back. Third, the apparent calculated focus. It looks like intelligent design, as distinct from America’s competitive scrabbling for profit by special interests, the hope being that this might inadvertently benefit the country as a whole.
In short, the Chinese seem to Have Something In Mind.
As I have mentioned before, China came out of nowhere to become the world leader in supercomputers. Also in high-speed rail, of strategic importance in its plan to united Europe and Asia economically. Heavy investment in solar power offers to ameliorate its dependence on oil from the Persian Gulf, vulnerable to blockage by the US Navy. Then there is  DF21D terminally guided ballistic missile, specifically intended as a carrier-killer in what China regards as its home waters. The list could go on at length.
In much of America, the Chinese are dismissed as being “unable to innovate,” inventiveness being thought of as unique to white men. Thinner ice has perhaps never been trod. 
The Chinese are smart. They are certainly capable of high-grade engineering and scientific research. (Eg., Beijing Genomics Institute) The line between imaginative engineering and invention is blurry. Note that on the numbers China can potentially bring to bear five times as many engineers as America can and, while they are well short of this, twice as many would be–is?–the beginning of a new world. 
While Beijing works to benefit China, rapidly increasing its techno-industrial clout, Washington spends insanely on weaponry. It is trying to apply a military solution to a commercial problem. America crumbles economically, politically, culturally, but has the very best bombers.
Example of non-inventiveness:
Step One, From a while back, “China Activates World’s Longest Ultra Secure Quantum Communication Network..” Beijing to Shanghai.
Quantum communications is based on the behavior of entangled photons. Said behavior is obviously impossible, but apparently nobody has told the photons, so they do it anyway. (Unless all the world’s physicists are smoking Drano. This possibility is worth considering. If interested, quantum entanglement. Also Quantum Key Distribution.) The point is that if anyone tries to intercept the transmission, it becomes obvious. A weakness is that you need repeaters every sixty miles, which reduces security.
Unless you do it in space:
Step Two: China launches world’s first quantum satellite. Having done the landline, they move to orbital experimentation.
Step Three, Bingo!  “China Just Took the Lead in the Quantum Space Race”
This being a big deal, I clip from Asia Times:
On Thursday, a team of Chinese scientists released findings from a breakthrough study that makes China the indisputable leader in the field of quantum communication, an achievement that could be of immense strategic importance.
The study, led by Pan Jianwei and published in Science magazine, successfully demonstrated the ability to distribute entangled photons across unprecedented distances, from space to earth, opening the door for the practical application of cutting-edge, ultra-secure communication.
The unprecedented distance was 1200 kilometers. Beijing  might be regarded as trying to establish world-wide communications secure against NSA and, eventually, a whole internet proof against Fort Meade. Whether one regards this as engineering development or innovation doesn’t seem to make much difference.
Chinese Solar-Powered Plane Flies at 65,000 feet”
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It apparently could stay aloft for months. The stories dealing with it suggest that the purpose might be long-term surveillance of countries, meaning spying. In any event, it is a neat technological trick, especially from people who can’t innovate.
Then we have, from,
“China launched its most powerful rocket ever on Thursday, state media said, as the country presses on with a program which has seen it become a major space power.”

The point here is not that China is ahead of America in space–it isn’t–but that it is coming on fast. Engineering, engineering, engineering. Dismissive Americans point out that the US was on the Moon in 1969 and that China is piggybacking of American technology. True. And Irrelevant.
From the National Interest: “The World’s New Leader in Super Deadly Hypersonic Weapons: China?”
Chinese Quantum Radar 
Quantum radar is another application of entangled photons. The link gives a semi-technical overview. The important point is that in principle it allows detection of stealth aircraft.
The Chinese assert that they can now detect stealth aircraft at 62 miles with enough accuracy to compute a fire-control solution. This means that radar stations with slightly overlapping fields of detection, say a hundred miles apart, could detect incoming aircraft with easily enough time to shoot them down.
If this report is true, it is potentially devastating for the US Air Force.  So far as I am aware, Chinese claims of technical results have heretofore been accurate.
The Air Force has invested very, very heavily in stealth. In bombers, the hugely expensive B2 and the planned hugelier expensiver B21 are dead meat if detached. In fighters, the F22 and the F35 Bankruper—Lightning II, I meant to say—will lose their main selling point if detectable. The F35 in particular has made compromises in performance to make it stealthy and, if detectable, is just a so-so fighter. 
Next: “Enter the Nimble Dragon: China sees nuclear future in small reactors”
SMRs (small modular reactors) have capacity of less than 300 megawatts (MW) – enough to power around 200,000 homes – compared to at least 1 gigawatt (GW) for standard reactors….”
China is aiming to lift domestic nuclear capacity to 200 GW by 2030, up from 35 GW at the end of March, but its ambitions are global.”
Small reactors (a bit larger than a bus) are important if you want to electrify a remote city without the overkill of a standard plant or the expense of long transmission lines. China is not the only country working on mini-nukes (or on anything else mentioned in this column), but it can now play with the big boys. Again, small reactors are an abrupt entrance into a major technical field. Note “global ambitions.” A Reuters piece describes “an ambitious plan to wrest control of the global nuclear market.” Planning and doing are not the same thing, but if I were a nuclear market, I would be uneasy.
For whatever reasons, the American media do not much cover technological advance in China. Ignorance? Arrogance? Is it just the American tendency to regard the rest of the world as unimportant? Maybe a little attention would be a good idea. A steady stream of advances comes out of the Middle Kingdom. In some fields, the Chinese lead the world. In others, they are behind but not be much, and gaining. Could be important. Especially if they learn to innovate.


Maybe "Disclosure" is close  ?   Spacecraft

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China heavy-lift carrier rocket launch fails: state media

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China on Sunday announced the launch of a powerful rocket designed to carry communication satellites into orbit had been "unsuccessful", in a glitch for the country's ambitious space programme. The Long March-5 Y2, Beijing's second heavy-lift rocket, blasted off at 7:23 pm (1123 GMT) Sunday from the Wenchang Space Launch Center in the tropical island province of Hainan "Abnormity was detected during the flight of the rocket," the Xinhua news agency reported. "Further investigation will be ca ... read more

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KFC Changes Name To K'ehFC For Canada 150

A new sign marking the name change is going up at the very first Canadian KFC location in Saskatoon.

OK, KFC ...
Or should we say, OK'eh?
Hoping to capitalize on Canada's 150th birthday celebration, or something, the company best known for finger-lickin' chicken announced it's changing its name to K'ehFC for the summer.

In case you're confused, here's an explainer video on how to pronounce the new name. (Spoiler: It's exactly the same.)


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"Canada Day is about togetherness — for the country, our communities, and for our friends and family, and bringing people together over a bucket of chicken is what K'ehFC stands for," said Stephen Scarrow, senior marketing manager for K'ehFC, in a news release.

Exactly as the fathers of Confederation envisioned.

A brand new sign is going up on Saskatoon's 8th Street restaurant — the first-ever Canadian location, which opened in 1955.

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The K'heFC name change will be celebrated with a new storefront sign at the very first Canadian location in Saskatoon.

The new logo will also be featured on buckets of chicken sold across the country.

Be sure to hold onto those babies once you're done eating; you never know how much a grease-stained, commemorative fast food bucket could fetch on Ebay.c'eh in the future.
KFC has been known to come up with some pretty wacky publicity stunts. Who could forget their edible nail polish? Or their special Mother's Day chicken-flavoured chocolate

What will they cook up next???

Canada Day /D'eh?

Canada selects two new astronauts
Natives of Calgary and Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, are newest recruits
OTTAWA, July 1, 2017 /CNW/ - Today, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau named two new astronauts who will join Jeremy Hansen and David Saint-Jacques as part of Canada's corps of space explorers. After a year-long evaluation, the Canadian Space Agency has selected Jenni Sidey and Joshua Kutryk from among 17 finalists and 3,772 applicants to be Canada's newest astronauts.
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Born in Calgary, Alberta, Dr. Jenni Sidey studied at McGill University in Montreal, Quebec, and at the University of Cambridge, United Kingdom, where she was an engineer and lecturer until being recruited as an astronaut.
Lieutenant-Colonel (LCol) Joshua Kutryk hails from Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta. He studied at the Royal Military College of Canada in Kingston, Ontario, as well as in Florida and Alabama. Prior to joining the Canadian Space Program, LCol Kutryk worked as an experimental test pilot and a fighter pilot in Cold Lake, Alberta, and as a CF-18 fighter pilot in Bagotville, Quebec.
Prime Minister Trudeau made the historic announcement on Parliament Hill during Canada Daycelebrations to mark the nation's 150th anniversary. He was joined by the Honourable Navdeep Bains, Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development, who is responsible for Canada's space program.
The nation's newest astronauts are being named as space agencies around the world identify options for future missions that go beyond the International Space Station.
These new recruits will be part of the next generation of space explorers that pushes the limits of science and technology while advancing public understanding of our universe. In the process, they will inspire young Canadians to pursue careers in science, technology, engineering and mathematics.
Canada's space program is part of the Government of Canada's investments in science and technology under the Innovation and Skills Plan, a multi-year strategy to create well-paying jobs for the middle class and those working hard to join it.
"Today, as we celebrate Canada's 150th birthday, we also look towards an exciting future of space exploration. We are a society of creative thinkers, explorers, innovators. As we embark on Canada's next 150 years and beyond, we can count on these two Canadians to help shape our future."
The Right Honourable Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada
"Canada's participation in space is important for scientific discovery and innovation. The technologies that are designed for space today can one day be used to improve the lives of all Canadians. These innovations also have the potential to create new jobs and opportunities for Canadians. Our country's newest astronauts will play a key role in advancing space technologies while pushing the frontiers of scientific knowledge. That's how Canada's space program drives innovation for a better Canada."
The Honourable Navdeep Bains, Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development
Quick Facts
  • Jenni Sidey and Joshua Kutryk become Canada's 13th and 14th astronauts. Starting in August 2017, they will embark on two years of training at NASA's Johnson Space Center.

  • Canada's newest astronauts could eventually participate in missions to the International Space Station and other missions into deep space. They could also travel on commercial spacecraft.

  • Canada's fourth astronaut recruitment campaign was launched in June 2016. The search attracted 3,772 applicants from a variety of backgrounds in science, technology, engineering and mathematics.

  • In Budget 2016, the Government of Canada invested $379M over eight years to extend Canada'sparticipation in the International Space Station until 2024.

  • In 2018, David Saint-Jacques will become the next Canadian astronaut to take part in a long-duration mission aboard the Space Station.
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Joshua Kutryk biography 
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Congrats on 2 new astronauts  from Alberta ca, sadly on Canada Day PM Trudeau forgot to mention Alberta, should have memorized from a-z like I did in kindergarten for states.  Happy Canada Day I was watching Hot Tuna live in essexes vt in Zero gravity recliner.

My main computer crashed while I was gone Cry Hmm2

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Quote:the Long March-5 Y2 had taken off with
the Shijian-18 experimental communications satellite
(7.5 tonnes),
which it was supposed to put into orbit.

A big loss for them,
an embarrassment.

in depth on the satellite and launcher:

Quote:This was a rare live broadcast of a Chinese launch 
and it will likely result in pressure to further remove the Chinese rockets from international attention Whip

Per the mission, this launch also had the primary goal of lofting a new satellite into orbit.
The new Shijian-18 experimental communications satellite 

is based on the new DFH-5 satellite platform, 
developed by CAST (China Academy of Space Technology) 
of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC).

Thatza whole lotta Kowloon's Canton Fried Chicken,
that didn't get into orbit,
and landed in the Pacific.

they can cook it, but they can't make it fly
Canton Fried Chicken


where is general Tso when you need him?

Moon Express reveals plans for private exploration of the moon
July 13, 2017 by Bob Yirka report

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(—Private company Moon Express has announced via its website its plans for exploring the moon—plans that include sending three craft to the moon over the next three years. Officials with the company have also been speaking with the press regarding their ambitions.

As noted on the website, to date, just three entities have sent working craft to the surface of the moon, all of them big governmental operations (U.S., U.S.S.R. and China). The aim of the team at Moon Express is to change that by giving some degree of moon access to non-governmental people. To that end, the company has three missions planned. The first involves sending a probe to the moon's surface; the second will seek to set a working research apparatus on the moon's south pole. The third and most ambitious mission will involve sending a vehicle to the surface of the moon that will be capable of mining moon dust and then bringing it back to Earth. Officials at Moon Express are promising to make samples of moon dust and/or rocks available to ordinary people upon its return—though it is assumed the samples will be auctioned to the highest bidders to help pay for the program.
At the core of the initiative by Moon Express is the idea that sending vehicles to the moon can be done without spending billions, which makes sense for them, because they are also claiming to be self-funded.

The plan is to use the same modular design for all three missions (and others in the future), which, of course, means reduced cost. The first vehicle is called the MX-1E and it is billed as a high-performance craft that is both eco-friendly and technically advanced. It is slated to launch atop a rocket made by Rocket Lab. The second mission will utilize the MX-1E Scout Classic—it will carry a host of scientific equipment for placement at the south pole—a location that allows for solar-powered instruments and also for constant communications with the Earth. For the third mission, the company plans to send an MX-2 to the moon, use it to retrieve surface samples, and then send part of it back to the Earth carrying the samples.
The company also has plans for larger MX-5 and MX-9 vehicles to be sent to the moon in the future, each capable of carrying more equipment or return lunar material to Earth for sale.
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NASA is studying fungi to keep space travelers safe on new worlds

July 10, 2017

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Human presence in closed habitats that may one day be used to explore other planets is associated with changes in the composition of the fungal community - the mycobiome - that grows on surfaces inside the habitat, according to a study published in the open access journal Microbiome.

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Holy Fuckin' Fund US / Fungus!!!

Arrow NA$A is $tudying fungi to keep $pace traveler$ $afe on new world$

Cancel all Grants to "Crater Counters! Tp

NA$A Just Announced They Can’t Afford to Get Humans to Mars

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NASA admitted today that under the current budget they cannot afford to get humans to Mars. NASA's next steps will depend on its funding, but now more than ever, the future of Mars colonization rests in the hands of commercial space companies.


NASA has been talking about getting humans to Mars for years, and continues to provide updated plans for getting there. Unfortunately, though, NASA’s chief of human spaceflight, William H. Gerstenmaier, just announced that the agency can’t achieve the Mars goal on its current budget.

“I can’t put a date on humans on Mars, and the reason really is the other piece is, at the budget levels we described, this roughly 2 percent increase, we don’t have the surface systems available for Mars,” Gerstenmaier said during a propulsion meeting of the American Institute for Aeronautics and Astronautics on Wednesday. “And that entry, descent, and landing is a huge challenge for us for Mars.”

Essentially, the SLS rocket and Orion craft have cost the agency a lot. As a result, NASA hasn’t even been able to begin designing vehicles to land on Mars or ascend from the surface.

NASA’s next moves will depend on funding. Gerstenmaier indicated the agency might be interested in a Moon exploration mission – one that is more extensive than the current plan to build the Deep Space Gateway in the Moon’s orbit. Beyond just being a launching pad for further space exploration, the gateway could “support an extensive moon surface program,” says Gerstenmaier.

Fortunately for our Red Planet dreams, it isn’t just up to NASA. Getting humans to Mars is a team effort. Agencies like NASA are really at the mercy of political moods and budgetary restraints, so they need to do as much as they can with what resources are there. One way they can maximize impact is to partner with private companies.
This month Elon Musk announced we might be getting an update about the SpaceX Mars mission in September at the International Astronautical Congress (IAC) in Australia. For now, though, SpaceX has set a deadline of 2018 for an unmanned Mars mission and 2025 for a manned mission. Both Boeing and Blue Origin are also planning to put humans on Mars. It may turn out that the “we” in Vice President Pence’s remarks about putting American boots on Mars is the larger American “we,” and not Doh  the government or NASA.

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On that private company Moon Express and their 3 missions planned.

Quote:Officials at Moon Express are promising to make samples of moon dust and/or rocks 
available to ordinary Sheep  people 
upon its return —
though it is assumed the samples will be auctioned to the highest bidders to help pay for the program.

...  has plans for larger MX-5 and MX-9 vehicles to be sent to the moon in the future,
each capable of carrying more equipment
or return Horsepoop
lunar material to Earth for sale.


Epic Fail.
there is no way they can sell enough fluff-n-stuff or scratch-n-sniff lunar dust Whip
to pay for those missions.
Mission Con-trol at this company  Nonono

Quote:NA$A Just Announced They Can’t Afford to Get Humans to Mars

Nonsense Astronomy Sucks Ass

They could start by terminating the Mikey Pennywise  Brown contracts to save some money.

How many craters can Stu Shemp Robbins count?
As many as NASA pays him to.

Fire all the halfwit clowns that hijacked the Pluto mission for the Fly  Hi Bye.

Any NASA money that vectors to SETI needs to be stopped cold.
They ought to rename that whole affair as:

They want to get more bang for their buck,
but then they wtf around and throw the entire mission potential away at Ceres.

They will do the same on Mars.
Slow Death Science.
Planetary Protection Zones on Mars while they double talk about terraforming venues.

Maybe we are better off without NASA sending humans to Mars.

Fuck  Hi Heads Who Play Slow Death Science Not Welcome On Mars

They will become an arm of the military more than they even suspect.
Holy Fuckin' Fund US / Fungus!!!

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Quote:"The programs we have right now are eating up every piece of the budget and it has to be reduced if we're ever going to get anywhere." -Buzz Aldrin

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin rolls out the red carpet for Mars (Update)
July 15, 2017 by Alex Sanz

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Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin speaks at the commemoration for the upcoming anniversary of the 1969 mission to the moon and a gala for his non-profit space education foundation, ShareSpace Foundation, at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Fla., on Saturday, July 15, 2017. (AP Photo/Alex Sanz)
Forty-eight years after he landed on the moon, Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin on Saturday rolled out a red carpet for the red planet at a star-studded gala at the Kennedy Space Center.

Aldrin, 87, commemorated the upcoming anniversary of the 1969 mission to the moon under a historic Saturn V rocket and raised more than $190,000 for his nonprofit space education foundation, ShareSpace Foundation . Aldrin believes people will be able to land on Mars by 2040, a goal that NASA shares. The space agency is developing the Space Launch System and the Orion spacecraft to send Americans to deep space.
Apollo astronauts Walt Cunningham, Michael Collins and Harrison "Jack" Schmitt joined Aldrin, one of 12 people to walk on the moon, at the sold-out fundraiser.
"I like to think of myself as an innovative futurist," Aldrin told a crowd of nearly 400 people in the Apollo/Saturn V Center. "The programs we have right now are eating up every piece of the budget and it has to be reduced if we're ever going to get anywhere."
During the gala, the ShareSpace Foundation presented Jeff Bezos with the first Buzz Aldrin Space Innovation Award. Bezos, the founder of and the spaceflight company Blue Origin, is trying to bring the cost of space travel down by reusing rockets.
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Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin attends the commemoration for the upcoming anniversary of the 1969 mission to the moon and a gala for his non-profit space education foundation, ShareSpace Foundation, at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Fla., on Saturday, July 15, 2017. (AP Photo/Alex Sanz)
"We can have a trillion humans in the solar system. What's holding us back from making that next step is that space travel is just too darned expensive," Bezos said. "I'm taking my Amazon lottery winnings and dedicating it to (reusable rockets). I feel incredibly lucky to be able to do that."
The foundation also honored former NASA astronaut Mae Jemison, the first African-American woman to travel in space, with the Buzz Aldrin Space Pioneering Award.
"When Buzz says, 'Get your ass to Mars,' it's not just about the physical part of getting to Mars. It's also about that commitment to doing something big and audacious," Jemison told The Associated Press. "What we're doing looking forward is making sure that we use our place at the table."
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Former NASA astronaut Mae Jemison accepts the Buzz Aldrin Space Pioneering Award at a commemoration for the upcoming anniversary of the 1969 mission to the moon and a gala for the non-profit space education foundation, ShareSpace Foundation, at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Fla., on Saturday, July 15, 2017. (AP Photo/Alex Sanz)
Space memorabilia was auctioned at the gala, including an autographed first day insurance "cover" that fetched $42,500 and flew to the surface of the moon. Covers were set up by NASA because insurance companies were reluctant to offer life insurance to pioneers of the U.S. space program, according to the auction website. Money raised from their sale would have paid out to the astronauts' families in the event of their deaths. The covers were issued in limited numbers and canceled on the day of launch.
The gala is the first part of a three-year campaign leading up to the 50th anniversary of the moon landing to help fund advancements that will lead to the future habitation of Mars.
ShareSpace Foundation on Saturday announced a new nonprofit, the Buzz Aldrin Space Foundation, to create an educational path to Mars. During the past year, the foundation has gifted 100 giant maps of Mars to schools and continues to work with children to advance education in Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts and Math, or STEAM.
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From left to right, Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin, and Blue Origins founder Jeff Bezos, Apollo 17 astronaut Harrison Jack Schmitt, and Apollo 11 astronaut Michael Collins listen as Apollo 7 astronaut Walt Cunningham speaks during the commemoration for the upcoming anniversary of the 1969 mission to the moon and a gala for Aldrin's non-profit space education foundation, ShareSpace Foundation, at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Fla., on Saturday, July 15, 2017. (AP Photo/Alex Sanz)

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Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin, left, and and Blue Origins founder Jeff Bezos attend the commemoration for the upcoming anniversary of the 1969 mission to the moon and a gala for Aldrin's non-profit space education foundation, ShareSpace Foundation, at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Fla., on Saturday, July 15, 2017. (AP Photo/Alex Sanz)
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Did Bezos send ANYTHING to Space Station?

Can't think of thing... Hmm2


Where's his Award Buz? Nonono 

Bob... Ninja Alien2
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Buzz looks too good in those pics.
87 years old?


He looked older by far 4 years ago on the Price Is Right ... 
There must be two Buzz Aldrin's cloned by now.

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SpaceX chief says first launch of big new rocket will be risky
July 19, 2017 by Marcia Dunn

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In this Sept. 27, 2016 file photo, SpaceX founder Elon Musk speaks during the 67th International Astronautical Congress in Guadalajara, Mexico. On Wednesday, July 19, 2017, Musk said the first launch of its big new rocket, the Falcon Heavy, is risky and stands "a real good chance" of failure. (AP Photo/Refugio Ruiz, File)
SpaceX's chief says the first launch of its big new rocket is risky and stands "a real good chance" of failure.

Founder Elon Musk told a space station research conference Wednesday he wants to set realistic expectations for the flight later this year from Cape Canaveral, Florida. The Falcon Heavy will have three boosters instead of one, and 27 engines instead of nine, all of which must ignite simultaneously. No one will be aboard the initial flights. When it comes time to add people, Musk says they'll have to be brave.
SpaceX plans to fly two paying customers to the moon in 2018, using a Falcon Heavy.
Musk says he'd like to ride one of his smaller Falcon rockets to the International Space Station in three or four years.
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SpaceX drops plans for powered Dragon landings

Jeff Foust — July 19, 2017

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Updated at 5:25 p.m. Eastern.
WASHINGTON — SpaceX no longer plans to have the next version of its Dragon spacecraft be capable of powered landings, a move that has implications for the company’s long-term Mars plans.
SpaceX Chief Executive Elon Musk, speaking at the International Space Station Research and Development Conference here July 19, confirmed recent rumors that the version of the Dragon spacecraft under development for NASA’s commercial crew program will not have the ability to land on land using SuperDraco thrusters that will be incorporated into the spacecraft primarily as a launch abort system.
“It was a tough decision,” he said when asked about propulsive landing capability during a question-and-answer session. “Technically it still is, although you’d have to land it on some pretty soft landing pad because we’ve deleted the little legs that pop out of the heat shield.”
SpaceX planned to transition from splashdowns, which is how the current cargo version of the Dragon returns to Earth, to “propulsive” landings at a pad at some point after the vehicle’s introduction. Certification issues, he said, for propulsive landings led him to cancel those plans.
“It would have taken a tremendous amount of effort to qualify that for safety, particularly for crew transport,” he said.
Another reason for the change, he said, is that SpaceX had reconsidered what is the best way to land large spacecraft on the surface of Mars in support of the company’s long-term goals to establish a human presence there.
“There was a time that I thought the Dragon approach to landing Mars, where you’ve got a base heat shield and side-mounted thrusters, would be the right way to land on Mars,” he said. “Now I’m pretty confident that is not the right way and there’s a far better approach.”
He didn’t describe that alternative approach, but said that “the next generation of SpaceX rockets and spacecraft” will use that different landing technique. In a later tweet, though, Musk clarified that the alternative approach will also use a version of propulsive landing.


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“It doesn’t seem like the right way of applying resources right now,” he said of the original propulsive landing technique.
Abandoning that propulsion landing technique would also appear to put into jeopardy SpaceX’s planned Red Dragon spacecraft, which would have landed a Dragon 2 spacecraft on the Martian surface. SpaceX announced plans for Red Dragon last year for launch in 2018, but SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell said in February that the launch had slipped to 2020 as the company focused on its commercial crew program and a return to flight of the Falcon 9 after a September 2016 pad explosion.
More recently, there were rumors that SpaceX had either further delayed that first Red Dragon mission or cancelled it entirely. Musk did not directly address the status of Red Dragon in his talk, but the lack of propulsion landing systems, particularly legs, would appear to rule out such missions.
Musk also confirmed in the interview that SpaceX is developing a revised version of the overall Mars exploration architecture that he unveiled at the International Astronautical Congress (IAC) in Guadalajara, Mexico, in September 2016. That plan involved the development of giant reusable launch vehicles, called the Interplanetary Transport System, for sending spacecraft to the surface of Mars or elsewhere in the solar system.
“It’s evolved quite a bit since the last talk,” Musk said of the Mars architecture. “The key thing that I’ve figured out is how to pay for this whole system to go to Mars. It’s super expensive.”
That alternative approach, he said, involves decreasing the size of the vehicles somewhat. “You make it capable of doing Earth orbit activity as well as Mars activity,” he said. “Maybe we can pay for it by using it for Earth orbit activity. That’s one of the key elements of the new architecture.”

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“I think this one’s got a shot of being real on the economic front,” he said. That update, he said, may be presented at this year’s IAC in September in Adelaide, Australia.
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Falcon Heavy and commercial crew

In the near term, though, Musk said SpaceX is primarily focused on completing development of the crewed version of the Dragon spacecraft. “Overall I think it’s going really well,” he said, with plans in place to start test flights of the vehicle around the middle of 2018.
That timeline is well behind the original schedule for the program, which called for the vehicle to be certified by NASA by the end of 2017. “It’s been way more difficult than cargo, to be sure,” he said of commercial crew development. “As soon as people enter the picture, it’s really giant step up in making sure things go right.”
Musk said NASA oversight was “much tougher” than on the commercial cargo program, but that disagreements were limited to “small technical bones of contention” with the agency. He didn’t given examples of those issues, beyond calling them “esoteric.”
“Overall, I’m confident that it’s going to be a system that NASA feels good about and SpaceX feels good about,” he said.
Also coming up is the first flight of the long-delayed Falcon Heavy rocket, now planned for late this year. Musk repeated earlier comments that development of the rocket, years behind schedule, was much more difficult than originally anticipated.
Musk also appeared to lower expectations about the success of that first launch. He said that liftoff requires the simultaneous ignition of 27 engines: nine engines in each of the three booster cores. “There’s a lot that could go wrong there,” he said, also citing the dynamical environment of the Falcon Heavy in flight that is difficult to test on the ground.
“There’s a lot of risk associated with the Falcon Heavy,” he said. “There’s a real good chance that vehicle does not make it to orbit. I want to make sure and set expectations accordingly.”
“I encourage people to come down to the Cape to see the first Falcon Heavy mission,” Musk said. “It’s guaranteed to be exciting.”

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The Moon Is Seriously Loaded With Water, More Than We Ever Expected
Amazing news for lunar colonists!

25 JUL 2017

There's way more water locked inside the Moon than we previously thought, according to a new analysis of satellite data.
This unexpected finding about our planet's grey companion is giving scientists new insights into how the Moon formed and what its internal structure is like. And it has potentially huge implications for any of our future lunar missions.

For a long time we thought the Moon was totally bone dry. On the surface it's a super-dusty environment with no substantial atmosphere, temperature extremes, and not enough gravity to help retain water molecules.
But recent studies have uncovered several types of lunar water. In 2009, NASA deliberately crashed its LCROSS probe into the Moon's south pole, discovering loads of water ice in the debris that shot up from the impact.
These ice deposits were thought to be billions of years old, trapped in the permanently shadowy and extremely cold crevasses of the lunar poles. But this water wasn't always there.
Researchers thought it was likely produced through external forces, such as solar winds sweeping across the surface and providing the right chemical reactions. In fact, there's a background level of extremely minuscule amounts of this kind of trapped water across the Moon's surface.
Astronauts from several Apollo missions also brought back geological samples from various parts of the Moon's surface, and in 2008 these samples were re-analysed to reveal trace water locked up in tiny glass beads.
Those glass beads were found in pyroclastic deposits - rock deposits of volcanic origin from some 100 million years ago when the Moon was still a highly geologically active ball with a bubbling core and surface volcanoes.

Such water, locked up in the Moon's own geology, is considered to be of local origin or 'indigenous', meaning it could have stuck around ever since the Moon was still a chunk of matter violently torn off our young Earth.
But scientists couldn't tell whether these beads actually indicated a 'wet' layer right underneath the Moon's dusty crust, in the lunar mantle.
"The key question is whether those Apollo samples represent the bulk conditions of the lunar interior or instead represent unusual or perhaps anomalous water-rich regions within an otherwise 'dry' mantle," says Ralph Milliken from Brown University, lead researcher of the latest study.
To answer that key question, Milliken and his team turned to orbital data from India's Chandrayaan-1 lunar orbiter, which carried aboard the handy Moon Mineralogy Mapper.
Using orbital data from previously mapped large pyroclastic deposits on the Moon's surface, laboratory analysis of Apollo mission samples, and a detailed model of lunar surface temperature data, the researchers found water-rich volcanic deposits all over the place.
"They're spread across the surface, which tells us that the water found in the Apollo samples isn't a one-off," says Milliken.

Some of these volcanic deposits stretch for thousands of square kilometres, and the team's data shows that there is four times more water in these than the measurable background level we mentioned above.
"[T]hese deposits are the result of magma that originally comes from deep within the lunar interior," Milliken told Samantha Mathewson at
So did all that water once hitch a ride from Earth or was it dumped there by comets? Unfortunately, the new findings only tell us it's there - but it's a step towards finding out more about the Moon's history.
"Whether it is from the Earth or from impact delivery … we are not ready to answer that question," one of the team, Shuai Li from Brown University, told The Guardian.
But however it got there, scientists do think all that water could one day become a valuable resource.
"The nearly ubiquitous presence of water in large and small lunar pyroclastic deposits adds to the growing evidence that the lunar mantle is an important reservoir of water," the team writes in the study.
And if that's the case, our future Moon colonists might well be able to extract usable water from many of these large volcanic deposits, making their off-Earth home just a little bit more habitable.
The research was published in Nature Geoscience.
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Well that's nice and dandy but it is another revision in lunar science models Whistle 

As such I don't necessarily believe this either

Quote:Such water, locked up in the Moon's own geology, 
is considered to be of local origin or 'indigenous', 
it could have stuck around 
ever since the Moon was still a chunk of matter violently torn off our young Earth


I am not convinced.
NASA and Russia reveal plan to build SPACE STATION orbiting the MOON

NASA and Russia are teaming up to create a groundbreaking new space station in orbit around the Moon, it was announced today.

By Henry Holloway / Published 28th September 2017

Moscow and Washington have agreed to build the station called Deep Space Gateway – finally bringing a long standing concept into reality.

Russia’s space agency Roscosmos announced the ambitious project today in a speech at International Astronautical Congress in Adelaide, Australia.

Following in the footsteps of the International Space Station, the moon ship would be open to astronauts and cosmonauts from around the world.

Space bosses hope the Deep Space Gateway will allow mankind to stage space flights to Mars and elsewhere in the Solar System.

It comes after US President Donald Trump announced in his debut speech on Capitol Hill he wanted astronauts to arrive on “distant worlds” within the next ten years.
NASA and Roscosmos hope the space station’s first modules would be completed by 2026 – the 250th anniversary of the United States.

“We have agreed to join the project to build a new international Deep Space Gateway station in the moon’s orbit," Russian space chief Igor Komarov said.

The space station could provide a staging point for the proposed Deep Space Transport vessel – which would ferry astronauts around the solar system.

It is hoped technology developed for the Deep Space Gateway could be implemented into surface bases on the Moon and Mars.

[Image: NASA-Russia-Deep-Space-Gateway-Roscosmos...088735.jpg]NASA

SPACE STATION: NASA and Roscosmos hope the Deep Space Gateway will open doors to Mars

In a mission statement for the project, NASA said: "NASA is leading the next steps into deep space near the moon, where astronauts will build and begin testing the systems needed for challenging missions to deep space destinations including Mars.
"The area of space near the moon offers a true deep space environment to gain experience for human missions that push farther into the solar system, access the lunar surface for robotic missions but with the ability to return to Earth if needed in days rather than weeks or months."

Speaking in March, Trump said, "American footprints on distant worlds are not too big a dream" and added all was possible if, "we set free the dreams of our people".

The announcement comes at a key time for Washington and Moscow, as relations remain strained over links to the US Election, the war in Syria and Russia's annexation of Crimea.
Experts have previously warned crumbling relationships between Russia and the US – the world's undisputed leading space powers – could impact mankind's expansion into the Milky Way.[img=619x0][/img]NASA/GETTY
DEEP SPACE GATEWAY: Russia and the US are going to put a space station in orbit around the Moon
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