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2 Navy Airmen and an Object That ‘Accelerated Like Nothing I’ve Ever Seen’
no I wasn't talking about a soul,
in the Vishnu sheath, not at all,
which is why I offered the transport beam analogy.
I am saying that there may be sentient highly intelligent alien lifeforms,
that don't need spacecraft to travel, in the sense of what we understand space craft to be. 

If you can't outright say that you think it is it is alien machinery that is flying as that UFO,
I don't understand where you are coming from,
other than I confused you from the get go with ball lightning, 
and that is certainly understandable,
I am speculating along a broad range of possibilities.

to be clear and simple about it:

I don't think the 40 foot wide / long object, is a 40 foot wide / long -- physical capsule.
The radar observation certainly implies that something physical is there.
We don't know what the UFO is composed of, that the radar may pick up.

The aspect of the random movement so excruciatingly out of control,
"randomly bobbing back and forth, up and down like a ping pong ball"
while hovering over the water,
then taking off in a directional pattern suddenly almost with intent,
has only one documented correlation,
other than UFO, 
and that is observed ball lightning behavior in many old accounts.

I looked at the recent Chinese research from the one link earlier posted and followed it to a pdf,
you may like this for ball lightning research info in the link below,

Quote:Researchers from Zhejiang University in Hangzhou, China
 have proposed that the bright glow of lightning balls
is created when microwaves become trapped inside a plasma bubble.

'At the tip of a lightning stroke reaching the ground,
a relativistic electron bunch can be produced,
which in turn excites intense microwave radiation,'
the scientists said in a research paper published in Scientific Reports.
'The latter ionizes the local air and the radiation pressure evacuates the resulting plasma,
forming a spherical plasma bubble that stably traps the radiation.'

Microwaves trapped inside the continue to generate plasma for a moments
to maintain the bright flashes seen during ball lightning, they added.
The fireball eventually fades away as the radiation held within the bubble starts to dissipate -
and when microwaves leak out, the lightning balls can dramatically explode.

The Russians did a lot of ball lightning fusion energy research.
The Chinese research involves microwaves,
trapped inside plasma bubbles of radiation ...
So the implications of what I am referring to --- is harnessing the energies of ball lightning phenomema,
and associated fusion power research ... ? 
and or microwave propulsion? 
ancient alien innovation?

fascinating article actually, 
yet still constrained to smaller phenomena, yet an interesting theory.

Relativistic-microwave theory of ball lightning


how reliable is ... old news ?
the old mexican air force video -- 
hotly debated,
the official debunk-- was oil platform flames in burnoff on the ground surface ...
I am not so sure about that,
and supposedly the full video is 30 minutes long.
The lights were filmed on March 5 by pilots using infrared equipment. 
They appeared to be flying at an altitude of about 11,500 feet, 
and reportedly surrounded the jet 
as it conducted routine anti-drug trafficking vigilance in Campeche. 
Only three of the objects showed up on the plane’s radar.

Mexican air force pilots

the debunk -- be sure to read all the comments

debunking the debunk? --- {I have never seen this one before}
you might like this one, 
it has an amusing observation of the UFO object, 
I was surprised to hear him say it ...




just occured to me ... 


The Mexican air force video event,
and the US air force video event,
were both in 2004 !

this popular mechanics article has more detail on the 2004 US pilot accounts

Quote:Radar Whip
The USS Princeton was able to ---> faintly track the “capsule” via its SPY-1B radar system,
but the fighters Nonono
were not able to get a radar lock on the object. Whip
The USS Princeton observed the UFO on radar, 
and six Super Hornets—twelve pilots and weapons system operators—saw the objects. 

There are several interesting details about the sighting here. 
For one, there were clearly two unidentified objects. 
The first was a large underwater object that was “much larger than a submarine.”

 It is described as “wingless, white, and shaped like an oblong pill.
It was 24-30 (40 in the NYT article) feet long, 
had no visible markings or glass. 

last paragraph doesn't sound like a glowing object,
but the size discrepancy in reports is concerning.
It also is not a sphere,
though large ball lightning phenomena have oblong shapes as well, 
but the classic shape is a sphere.


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RE: 2 Navy Airmen and an Object That ‘Accelerated Like Nothing I’ve Ever Seen’ - by Vianova - 12-28-2017, 02:37 AM

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