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NASA's Mars Helicopter Is Ready to Head to Mars with the Perseverance Rover

It's attached the Mars Helicopter to the rover for its trip to the red planet.

By  Fabienne Lang

April 13, 2020



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Mars Perseverance and Mars Helicopter NASA/JPL-Caltech

NASA is sending its Mars Perseverance Rover to the red planet anytime between July 17 and August 5, and it's now in its final preparation stages.

Part of these final stages is attaching the Mars Helicopter to the rover, to join it on its mission. The last week has seen NASA's team assemble the pieces of the rover machine, running tests and filled its tanks with fuel. Now, the rover is also adorned with the Mars Helicopter, paving the way for future unmanned aerial vehicles in Space.

SEE ALSO: IMPRESSIVE IMAGES OF MARS' MOREUX CRATER CAPTURED BY MARS EXPRESS
Mars Helicopter

The time is nearing when NASA's Mars Perseverance rover will launch up towards its destination: Mars. As the rover rolls around on Mars, a NASA helicopter will also be fluttering around.
Quote:.@NASA's Mars Helicopter will make history when it becomes the first aircraft to fly on another world. Now it has its ride to the Red Planet.

The helicopter was attached to the belly of @NASAPersevere ahead of its launch to Mars, targeted for July: https://t.co/8O3TUzlxW6 pic.twitter.com/x9EkBsjzZh
— NASA's Kennedy Space Center (@NASAKennedy) April 11, 2020


Last year, NASA ensured that its Mars Helicopter could indeed fly in the conditions the red planet will offer. The 1.8 kilogram (4 pound) vehicle was tested in JPL's Space Simulator in Martian conditions. The team was able to replicate the Martian atmosphere and gravity inside the vacuum cylinder, and in that cylinder, the helicopter successfully hovered around five centimeters (two inches) over the ground. The next time it'll do that will be on Mars.

NASA's Perseverance's team attached the helicopter to the rover on April 6, after having ensured it's able to send and receive data, as well as an electrical charge from the rover. Initially, the helicopter will gain its power from the rover but then it'll switch to its solar panel as it makes its way to the Jezero Crater. After it lands on the red planet, the helicopter will remain on the rover for two and a half months before flying off on its own.

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The Mars Helicopter and its Delivery System., [i]Source: NASA/JPL-Caltech

The Perseverance has to first drive the 110 meters (330 feet) distance from its landing spot before the Mars Helicopter starts its 30-day flight testing mission.[/i]

Source: https://interestingengineering.com/nasas...ance-rover

Bob... Ninja Assimilated
"The Morning Light, No sensation to compare to this, suspended animation, state of bliss, I keep my eyes on the circling sky, tongue tied and twisted just and Earth Bound Martian I" Learning to Fly Pink Floyd [Video: https://vimeo.com/144891474]
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I am caught between laughing out loud and trying be proactively positive,
for the Mars helicopter.

I am supposed to be positive Dance2
and NASA proud of the mission helicopter.

Better be all three monkeys,
see no,  hear no,  speak no, 
evil,
just don't say a word about the Mole failures on the Insight mission.
Not one word, Nonono
about,
goofy mondo disposable tinker toys on Saturday morning space clown cartoons. 

So let NASA speak for itself.

Quote:The 1.8 kilogram (4 pound) vehicle  Rofl

was tested Whip

 in JPL's Space  Tp Simulator in Martian Uhoh conditions.

The team was able to replicate the Martian atmosphere, 
and gravity inside the vacuum cylinder, 
and in that cylinder, 
the helicopter successfully hovered around -- two Jawdrop inches -- over the ground.

Holycowsmile


Two inches !!!
Wow!
now that's the NASA grit and determination needed to make a space mission successful !



Quote:After it lands on the red planet, 
the helicopter will remain on the rover,
for two and a half months before flying off on its own. 




wtf ? ... It had better fly. No more Moles. Zero Tolerance.

When I look at that feeble thing closely in the image, 
{attached to the delivery mechanism}
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it reminds me,
of being an army brat in Augsburg Germany in the mid 60's,
when we would shoot shit like that down,
with our BB guns.
We had vivid imaginations as army brats,
shooting things down that dropped from the sky like a flaming plinko chip into the ground.

Or fast forward to the future,
and while the helicopter is marooned on the rover,
for 2.5 months,
sneak by and stick an M-80 up it's ass, then run like hell laughing all the way.
Army brats on Mars.

Got detained by the Mars Police for vandalism,
but the sheriff said "good job boys",
and gave us a ride home.

So I remain positive about the Mars helicopter, or a real one in the future.

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But this is the second mission in a row,
that made me want to revert to army brat days,
and smash, trash, burn and beat the crap out of the NASA tinker toys. 

Better send in the Mars air force to round those army brats up.

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A sudden unexpected wind gust will likely smash the NASA copter into the nearest butte.
My guess is that it may not even survive the landing.
A bad sandstorm has it stuck on the rover,
unable to disengage.
But if it flies,
and performs to NASA expectations,  -- TWO INCHES !
then I won't have to name it the Mars Heli-flopter.

I am looking forward to reading what the helicopter is supposed to accomplish.
Maybe all they want it to do is disengage,
fly in a circle,
and crash land.

It has better odds than the Mole?
I think so.
Look at that.
Pure positivity!
Go NASA !

Space Mission Looney Tunes. 
Mondo Disposable Tinker Toys.

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It's Official: SpaceX Will Carry Its First Humans to The Space Station Next Month
Applause Blobr Banana_hump Dance004 Mango

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IVAN COURONNE, AFP
17 APRIL 2020
A SpaceX rocket will send two American astronauts to the International Space Station on May 27, NASA announced on Friday, the first crewed spaceflight from the US in nearly a decade.

"On May 27, @NASA will once again launch American astronauts on American rockets from American soil!" Jim Bridenstine, head of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, said in a tweet
Since July 2011, the United States has relied on Russian Soyuz rockets to send American astronauts to the ISS.
The US space agency had been aiming to conduct the crewed mission in May and is sticking with the plan despite the global coronavirus pandemic.
Astronauts Robert Behnken and Douglas Hurley will fly to the ISS on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket aboard a Crew Dragon spacecraft also built by SpaceX, the company founded by tech entrepreneur Elon Musk.
They will lift off at 16:32 local time (20:32 UTC) on May 27 from historic launch pad 39A, the same one used for the Apollo and space shuttle missions, at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, NASA said.
Behnken and Hurley have been training for years for the mission, which would move the United States closer to no longer being reliant on Russia for crewed flights.
The Crew Dragon capsule is a modified version of SpaceX's Dragon capsule which has been used to send supplies to the ISS since 2012.

It will take approximately 24 hours after liftoff for them to dock with the ISS. The length of their stay aboard the ISS has not been determined.
One American astronaut and two Russian cosmonauts are currently aboard the ISS.
The May mission will be a milestone for NASA, which has had trouble turning the page on the space shuttle era. Shuttles transported American astronauts into space for three decades but two of them also blew up.
After abandoning the shuttle, NASA turned to private industry to develop its next generation spacecraft and SpaceX and Boeing have been competing on rolling out a crewed capsule.
SpaceX came up with Crew Dragon and Boeing the Starliner but the Starliner suffered a setback in December during a test run.
SpaceX is now poised to become the first private company to send astronauts into space.
In March, Musk's Crew Dragon capsule made a round trip to the ISS, which is in orbit more than 250 miles (400 kilometers) above Earth, with a mannequin on board, before returning to the Atlantic after six days in space.
SpaceX has made the trip 15 times since 2012, but only to refuel the station.
© Agence France-Presse



Bob... Ninja Assimilated

GO ELON !!!

I told you NASA/JPL would NEVER GET ANYONE to ANYWHERE in Space BEFORE ELON !!!

Mr. President  - GIVE NASA/JPL to ELON !!!
"The Morning Light, No sensation to compare to this, suspended animation, state of bliss, I keep my eyes on the circling sky, tongue tied and twisted just and Earth Bound Martian I" Learning to Fly Pink Floyd [Video: https://vimeo.com/144891474]
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Quote:then I won't have to name it the Mars Heli-flopter.


I laughed gut-chuckles through that entire post.

I couldn't look away from the accident that will happen in slow mo.

to wit.
succinct.

To bob's point,space has demonstrated stick-leg type landings with a rocket so if it doesn't impinge the wing-blades then it might get high in the sky to make a mole-hill outta a mountain as far as multi-level ground truth resolution.
Along the vines of the Vineyard.
With a forked tongue the snake singsss...
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That sound track in the fake flight video!

Rofl

I laughed out loud.

Everybody at NASA in 1963 laughed and enjoyed the fake Mars Heli-flopter flight in 2020.

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You gotta love those goofy legs in the actual simulation landing,
when they ... plinko plinkey down .. with a bit of ouncey bouncey ... and oingo boingo Whip
off the surface,
of the handy  Hi dandy landing pad.


So they plan on flying the goofy gnat and image mapping the local terrain up close.

Skeet shooting at NASA ... ricky retardo drones.

Paint the ... I Love Lucy ... heart logo, 
on the side of the NASA flying cube in that fake flight video.

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We can give it that name for tonight's post.

{might need to call it lots of names before the mission is over}

It is the ... I Love Lucy NASA Heli-flopter ... a TV comedy rerun.
Starring 
Stu Robbins as Ricky Retardo Whip
and
Stu Harris as Fred {lefty} Mertz Whip

Lucy of course,
is played by none other than Arrow   Miss Emily Lakdawalla Wub


tralalalalalala  Hi

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This  FLY TIME is a WHOPPING....................90 seconds. That's IT.  Naughty youareaduck Cry




Don't expect a fly to Cydonia Horsepoop 



Bob... Ninja Assimilated
"The Morning Light, No sensation to compare to this, suspended animation, state of bliss, I keep my eyes on the circling sky, tongue tied and twisted just and Earth Bound Martian I" Learning to Fly Pink Floyd [Video: https://vimeo.com/144891474]
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There is always hope?
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Hope is one of three Mars missions expected to launch this summer. NASA’s Mars 2020 rover will launch July 17 on a United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 from Cape Canaveral, with NASA taking special measures to keep the mission on schedule amid the pandemic. Huoxing-1, a Chinese Mars mission with an orbiter, lander and rover, is also set to launch in July on a Long March 5, although the Chinese government has provided few recent updates about the mission’s status.

https://spacenews.com/uae-mars-mission-t...unch-site/
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With a forked tongue the snake singsss...
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Quote:Huoxing-1, 
a Chinese Mars mission  Nonono
with an orbiter  Tp  
lander  Tp
and rover   Tp
is also set to launch in July 



Burn baby, crash and burn Whip

May the Chinese mission fail in the highest degree of epic fail.

This is when you need 1960's army brats on 2020 Mars.
Find that Chinese rover,
and beat the crap out of it,
with American  Hi baseball bats.

Then plant a few M-80s on it and light them all off at once.
Next,
we spray paint it with anti - Chinese Communist Party graffiti, 
all around an image of Chairman Xi JinPing,
taped to the rover carcass.
Then everybody takes a leak on Xi's picture,
at the same time.

Zip up. 
Yeaaaaa ....
Feeling great after emptying my bladder on Chairman Xi and his bitch rover on Mars.

Where is the Space Force when you need them?
Blast that piece of shit Chinese orbiter out of the Martian sky.

Or, Hmm2
we could steal their rover and ride it hard on the sand dunes.
Maybe even commandeer their orbiter,
send it back flying over China,
and drop some nuclear payload,
on Chairman Xi.

Now that's good work in outer space!
Give those American army brats the Congressional Medal of Honor.

hot damn
and
hell yes
but
holy smokes ... Chinese on Mars ... there goes the neighborhood !


But we have the better Mars mission.
We have a helicopter that can fly 2 inches above the surface in a lab,
and is a TV star in mission fake flight video's,
on the 2020 NASA "I Love Lucy" show.

I am upbeat and positive for NASA this time.
I am a nice guy full of NASA love this time.
We can forget about,
the feeble failing fucked up Mole and the Stu-holio Insight mission for now. 
helicopter ...
heli-flopter ...
who cares?
This is the I Love Lucy NASA mission with the Perseverance Rover,
and the:
I Love Lucy NASA helicopter.
Iconic classic TV comedy full of red white and blue, on an all American mission.
Chinese can't top that prime time entertainment.



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China's New Mars Mission Is Called "Tianwen 1," Meaning "Quest for Heavenly Truth"

The mission is set to take place in the coming months.

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By  Loukia Papadopoulos
April 26, 2020


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On Friday, the China National Space Administration (CNSA) revealed in a statement the name of its new Mars mission. The ambitious mission is set to be named "Tianwen 1" after the country's planetary exploration program "Tianwen," which means "quest for heavenly truth."

RELATED: CHINESE SPACE STATION BURNS UP OVER SOUTH PACIFIC



Named after a poem



"The program was named after a long poem by the famous ancient poet Qu Yuan of the Kingdom of Chu during the Warring States Period (475-221 BC). He is known for his patriotism and contributions to classical poetry and verses, especially through the poems of the Chu Ci anthology, also known as Songs of Chu," wrote the Chinese space agency in its statement.



"The name represents the Chinese people's relentless pursuit of truth, the country's cultural inheritance of its understanding of nature and universe, as well as the unending explorations in science and technology."



The space agency also revealed that the mission would take place in the coming months. China already undertook its successful first public test of a Mars lander in November last year, putting it on track to meet its Mars deadline.



This is an impressive feat as to date only the United States and the former Soviet Union have landed spacecraft on Mars. However, it should be noted that the European Space Agency and India have succeeded in sending crafts to the planet's orbit.



The Martian probe



"According to the administration, the country's first Martian probe will conduct scientific investigations about the Martian soil, geological structure, environment, atmosphere as well as water," explained CNSA in its statement.


"The robotic probe will consist of three parts – the orbiter, the lander, and the rover. The rover will have six wheels and four solar panels and will carry [b]13 scientific instruments. It will be more than 200 kilograms in weight and will work about three months on the planet, said Sun Zezhou, the probe's chief designer at the China Academy of Space Technology."[/b]


Source:  https://interestingengineering.com/china...enly-truth



I DOUBT CHINA would go to Cydonia.  Wish they would anyway.

Bob... Ninja Assimilated
"The Morning Light, No sensation to compare to this, suspended animation, state of bliss, I keep my eyes on the circling sky, tongue tied and twisted just and Earth Bound Martian I" Learning to Fly Pink Floyd [Video: https://vimeo.com/144891474]
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Ive been thinking, perhaps I should not ;) however, would it not be more viable to send something akin to a mini airship to Mars? Would that not be able to stay up far longer, and travel much further?
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Quote:would it not be more viable to send something akin to a mini airship to Mars? 
Would that not be able to stay up far longer, and travel much further?


Budget buster.
Too costly = other missions canceled or curtailed
Wasted money = bad science.
Bad science = heli-flopter.
Bad science = the Stuholio Mole.
All the money often goes to efforts that are wasted.


This mission is going to budget bust other better missions.
For instance New Horizon is 700 million over 15 years.

https://spacenews.com/overstressed-nasa-...-missions/
quote:
The centerpiece of NASA’s Mars exploration plans is Mars 2020, 
which will launch a rover recently named Perseverance to Mars.

Quote:Mars 2020 previously suffered technical problems that caused cost increases. 
NASA’s fiscal year 2021 budget 
proposal estimated the cost to develop the mission at nearly $2.04 billion Jawdrop
an increase of 21.4% from the baseline cost estimate made in 2017. 
Problems with one of the instruments on the rover,
as well as its sample caching system contributed to the overruns.

“The FY20 budget appropriation, though very favorable for us, 
was significantly overstressed Whip
supporting some problem resolution that we had in multiple areas on the 2020 mission,
” Jim Watzin, director of NASA’s Mars exploration program,
 said at a March 9 meeting of NASA’s planetary science advisory committee.

Watzin said while those problems had been resolved, 
those cost overruns required “austerity across the portfolio” of Mars programs, 
with the exception of research and analysis.
 “Every other element of the program was tapped to support the problem resolution” 
with Mars 2020, he said.

NASA hasn’t disclosed specific cuts to other Mars programs, 
and a fiscal year 2020 operating plan, 
where NASA details spending for specific programs not specifically allocated in the appropriations bill, 
is still pending approval by Congress, Glaze said in the March 19 town hall.

Watzin said one change is to end NASA support for ESA’s Mars Express orbiter mission, 
on which NASA spent $2.8 million in fiscal year 2019. 
He said that mission did poorly in a recent senior review of extended missions, 
hence the decision to wind down support by the summer.

Other ongoing missions are threatened by the administration’s fiscal year 2021 budget proposal. 
“The FY21 budget
that the president just recently submitted overall is extremely favorable for the Mars program, 
but available funding for extended mission longevity is limited,” Watzin said.

That request would effectively end operations of the Mars Odyssey orbiter, 

launched in 2001, 
and reduce the budget for Curiosity from $51.1 million in 2019 to $40 million in 2021, 
with no funding projected for that rover mission beyond 2021.

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2 billion and they send a mechanized gnat to fly a few inches above the ground.

Why didn't they just leave Cassini orbiting around Saturn ... as an asset in space?

Special interests ruin NASA missions.

That is why they failed at Ceres with a ridiculous LAMO,
and flew by Pluto,
to fly by a 45 km booger in space, MU69
and will not tell the truth about the real mission -- after flying by MU69.

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"Lucy, I think you've got some 'splainin' to do." 

Lucy in the Sky with Donaldjohanson:The girl with Anti-Collide-o-scope eyes



Quote:In this article, I will analyze how Lucille Ball became a businesswoman in spite of ... who became famous and rich thanks to her ingenuity and her ambition.

https://journals.openedition.org/transatlantica/5050

maybe we could designate it DESI?




APRIL 30, 2020
Alabama student names NASA's first Mars helicopter
[Image: ingenuitymar.jpg]The flight model of NASA's Ingenuity Mars Helicopter. Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech
An Alabama high school student named NASA's first Mars helicopter that will be deployed to the red planet later this summer.

Ingenuity, the name submitted by Vaneeza Rupani, was selected for the 4 pound (1.8 kilograms) solar-powered helicopter, NASA said in a statement on Wednesday. The name coined by the junior at Tuscaloosa County High School in Northport was just one of 28,000 names submitted in NASA's "Name the Rover" essay contest for K-12 students across the United States.
"The ingenuity and brilliance of people working hard to overcome the challenges of interplanetary travel are what allow us all to experience the wonders of space exploration," Rupani wrote in her essay. "Ingenuity is what allows people to accomplish amazing things, and it allows us to expand our horizons to the edges of the universe."
In March, the space agency selected the name Perseverance for the Mars Rover based on a Virginian student's essay, but decided to come back to the submitted essays to also pick a name for the helicopter that will accompany the Rover.
NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine said Ingenuity "encapsulates the values that our helicopter tech demo will showcase." Alabama Sen. Richard Shelby also congratulated Rupani for the honor.
"It was really cool I got to be a part of something like this," she told the AP.

Ingenuity has already completed testing in a NASA simulation chamber in Southern California. Next, it will be attached to the belly of the Perseverance, which will take off for Mars in July or August. After it arrives on the red planet, the helicopter will remain under a protected covering to protect it from debris until the timing is right for the aircraft to be deployed.
It will then have a 31-day flight window to prove that powered flights can be accomplished on Mars, NASA said.

This year's mission is part of a program that also includes missions to the moon to prepare for a possible human exploration of Mars. NASA plans to land the first woman and the next man on the moon in 2024, and set up a continued human presence "on and around" the moon in eight years so they can use it to send astronauts to Mars.




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10.9 million names now aboard NASA's Perseverance Mars rover
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OK, they got a junk food high school student to name the helicopter ... Ingenuity  Nonono

Good thing she didn't have to name...  The Stuholio Mole Whip
that is still out there,
on the other Mars mission,
humping the Martian perma-funka-dunka-not-so-delicate ... regolith.

It would just be dandy to be there,
when that NASA helicopter flies high and returns from a successful mapping mission,
just like in the fake video.

Or the moments before, and when, and after it crashes into a butte side.

Can you see the wide eyed smile of  Holycowsmile on your own face,
while standing there witnessing the event? 

Which brings up a new sport,
for future Mars colonists !

Sport shooting on Mars at Fly  Hi  Bye Chinese drones.
It could get future shock sophisticated.
Flying drones with evasion tactic programming.
Robotic critters programmed to evade hunters over Martian territory.

Martian big game robot spider hunting!
Hell yes.

But I would settle for a shotgun,
and a butt seat pillow to sit on the rover,
for a few relaxing shots at the feeble NASA helicopter.

Or ... Hmm2 ... Martian Golf !


Aerial Drones,

would deploy upon every golf shot to go out and locate your ball !

No lost balls!



The ... I Love Lucy Mars Planetary Rover Memorial Golf Course ! 
Mapped in 2020 !
By a NASA helicopter.

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February 18 is the landing day.
Not too far away.

I don't think that helicopter is going survive the landing.
If it does survive, it likely won't fly far.


But I can always be optimistic.
Like the high school kid that named it Ingenuity. Slap2 

I named it the ... I Love Lucy ... helicopter.
My way of showing a positive attitude to highly questionable scientific tinker toy apparatus.
Especially after the Mole debacle where I gave them hell.
So send it a whole lotta love,
over the next two weeks,
if you want to get the good news that it actually flew and did some science.

Just a heads up that Feb. 18 is a hop, skip, and fake helicopter ride away.

A couple of images from - north - of the Jezero Crater delta landing site, just for fun.


https://www.universetoday.com/149589/mar...li-fossae/
They got some great images of recent landslides in Nili Fossae.
large images at links

https://www.universetoday.com/wp-content...0x1126.jpg
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NASA screenshot...

Front Hazcam (w/ dust cover)...

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On NASA/JPL TV it was being broadcast from TWO screen I recorded both.

One screen was "public" an on the right was "media" there was a LOT of 'propaganda' on the public one that really didn't have the more interesting one on the "media" one where they had the sound and images; and all the glitches that they had..including issues with communication with the MRO.  Now why should we be worrying about that Hmm2

They had to use the European Mars Express Orbiter to continue getting the REAL-TIME data; while they stated the MRO was storing 'data'.  Ge-Wizard I have an 8 core machine and the rendering I had to switch to the C drive is actually an 8 core integrated circuit board... i.e no little head putting dots on a spinning disk.

Until I get websites back up I'll place it there.

I'm also trying to find that InCurious-Curiosity navcam with the postcard on the rock. I know I placed it here, but I am getting a bit tired while bringing wood inside to keep house warm.  Have none left here and my bank has been attacked and State Police have been here and are looking into that and other "issues".

I showed them the very tiny bit of Cannabis Sativa OIL cured my black toes and Rick Simpson's OIL phoenixtears.ca

I've had Cockroaches In Action messing with my machine and internet access and emails. Despite updated and Spectrum here and testing wires found that the cable was having "funny" variations in 'flow-rate'; which continue. Alien2 

Bob... Ninja Assimilated Angel
"The Morning Light, No sensation to compare to this, suspended animation, state of bliss, I keep my eyes on the circling sky, tongue tied and twisted just and Earth Bound Martian I" Learning to Fly Pink Floyd [Video: https://vimeo.com/144891474]
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NASA could land a Sherman tank on top of Ahuna on Ceres if they wanted to.
You can always count on NASA to get the hardware on the planets or moons.
They are impeccable in consistent success in that regard.
It is the science methods applied to experiments after they land that often lacks common sense.

Now we get to see if the Helicopter survived the landing.
It survived -- if it flies.

That hazcam image that Kalter posted is interesting.
What  is the hazy stuff out in the distance?
Am I seeing that correctly?
Or is that something to do with the lens?
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(02-19-2021, 01:13 PM)Vianova Wrote: ...
NASA could land a Sherman tank on top of Ahuna on Ceres if they wanted to.
You can always count on NASA to get the hardware on the planets or moons.

They are impeccable in consistent success in that regard.
It is the science methods applied to experiments after they land that often lacks common sense.

You forgot the three missions before the Tricky Sticky MGS who with-held more than 70,000 images until I got past the Secret Service into Clinton Community College in May 2000 and confronted her about Malin's WITH-HOLDING releasing images for more than 27 months ???

Now ALL releases follow the 6 month RULE Gangup 

As for what's in background it looks like a sandstorm and could turn into dustdevil. LilD 

Bob... Ninja Assimilated Angel
"The Morning Light, No sensation to compare to this, suspended animation, state of bliss, I keep my eyes on the circling sky, tongue tied and twisted just and Earth Bound Martian I" Learning to Fly Pink Floyd [Video: https://vimeo.com/144891474]
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Must be in an 'interesting' area... this is the point where they either start releasing many more images... or they're trying to figure out what not to look at first.
On a satellite I ride. Nothing down below can hide.
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Yes...the dust covers worked on the front/rear hazcams and will be popped off.
The main camera will be 20 Mpixel vs 2 Mpxl on Curiosity.
I think there must be a so-called micro-imager but I haven't seen any mention.

Re..."...the hazy stuff out in the distance..."
There was talk about a 200' cliff face possibly more visible on an unobscured shot. 

If you look on the Gigapixel site they have one image of
typical very small fossil fragments that might be visible to the rover.
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(02-19-2021, 08:35 PM)Keith Wrote: Must be in an 'interesting' area... this is the point where they either start releasing many more images... or they're trying to figure out what not to look at first.

I personally think the later because I was screen recording both feeds 'public' & 'media' how the MRO got over loaded and they had to get radio contact through European Mars Express.

If I have 8core machines I would think they would have at LEAST that Doh 

Bob... Ninja Assimilated Angel

Okay.... CockRoaches In Action working here.  Can someone find the CARD images:

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Finally FOUND them as part of site that is 8TB drive

PLEASE someone find them and re-post them from USGS or PDS system..every time I try I cannot "find" Curiosity listed.


Thank You Worship Worship Worship

Bob... Ninja Assimilated Angel
"The Morning Light, No sensation to compare to this, suspended animation, state of bliss, I keep my eyes on the circling sky, tongue tied and twisted just and Earth Bound Martian I" Learning to Fly Pink Floyd [Video: https://vimeo.com/144891474]
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Here's a hazcam image...color...w/o lens cap......

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[Note...I heard that the above image had NO post-processing...eg. see the blue sky!]
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Has ANYONE looked for those NAV-CAM left and right images with postcard attached I found the images here on my external drives so I gave you FULL named images from PDS or USGS. I have emails from JPL discussing this but I am afraid ANY update of Mozilla might remove those like the NSA.gov email was deleted soon after the Feb 4 2020 onslaught of phone calls stated.

Bob...CIA=FRACK U
"The Morning Light, No sensation to compare to this, suspended animation, state of bliss, I keep my eyes on the circling sky, tongue tied and twisted just and Earth Bound Martian I" Learning to Fly Pink Floyd [Video: https://vimeo.com/144891474]
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Well isn't that just sweet and dandy!

Ingenuity phones home to confirm it's survival.

Sitting there still tucked in Mama's belly and attached like an umbilical cord,
powering up Bong7bp it's lithium ion batteries.



Quote:... the helicopter, which will remain attached to the rover for 30 to 60 days ...


So now we have to wait 30 to 60 days before it even stands on the surface Scream
let alone fly into the sky?
Sorry NASA, no claim to fame yet. 
The fat lady with the future funding doesn't sing until the bird flies and sends home an image. 


https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-mars...reports-in

NASA’s Mars Helicopter Reports In
Feb 19, 2021



Quote:Mission controllers at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California 
have received the first status report 
from the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter, 
which landed Feb. 18, 2021, 
at Jezero Crater 
attached to the belly of the agency’s Mars 2020 Perseverance rover. 

The downlink, which arrived at 3:30 p.m. PST (6:30 p.m. EST) 
via a connection through the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, indicates that both the helicopter, 
which will remain attached to the rover for 30 to 60 days, 
and its base station -- an electrical box on the rover,  
that stores and routes communications between the rotorcraft and Earth) are operating as expected.



Ingenuity,
aka the Desert Dragonfly,
on a perfect day for a picnic on the Martian surface in a NASA illustration,


[Image: PIA23720-illustration.original.width-1320.jpg]





Quote:There are two big-ticket items 
we are looking for in the data: 
the state of charge of Ingenuity’s batteries 
as well as confirmation the base station is operating as designed, 
commanding heaters 
to turn off and on to keep the helicopter’s electronics within an expected range,” 
said Tim Canham, 
Ingenuity Mars Helicopter operations lead at JPL. 
“Both appear to be working great. 
With this positive report, 
we will move forward with tomorrow’s charge of the helicopter’s batteries.”

Applause


Ensuring that Ingenuity has plenty of stored energy aboard to maintain heating,
and other vital functions,
while also maintaining optimal battery health,
is essential to the success of the Mars Helicopter. 

The one-hour power-up will boost the rotorcraft’s batteries to about 30% of its total capacity. 

A few days after that, they’ll be charged again to reach 35%, 
with future charging sessions planned weekly,
while the helicopter is attached to the rover. 
The data downlinked during tomorrow’s charge sessions will be compared to battery-charging sessions,
done during cruise to Mars to help the team plan future charging sessions.

Like much of the 4-pound (2-kilogram) rotorcraft, 
the six lithium-ion batteries are off-the-shelf.  Naughty
They currently receive recharges from the rover’s power supply. 
Once Ingenuity is deployed to Mars’ surface, 
the helicopter’s batteries will be charged solely by its own solar panel 

After Perseverance deploys Ingenuity to the surface, 
the helicopter will then have a 30-Martian-day experimental flight test window. 

If Ingenuity survives  Hi  – it's first bone chilling nights -
where temperatures dip as low as minus 130 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 90 degrees Celsius) 
the team will proceed,
with the first flight of an aircraft on another world.

If Ingenuity succeeds  Hi in taking off and hovering during its first flight, 
over 90% of the project’s goals will have been achieved. Rofl 

If the rotorcraft lands successfully  Hi and remains operable, 
up to four more flights could be attempted, each one building on the success of the last.

“We are in uncharted territory, but this team is used to that,” 
said MiMi Aung, 
project manager for the Ingenuity Mars Helicopter at JPL. 
“Just about every milestone from here through the end of our flight demonstration program will be a first, 
and each has to succeed for us to go on to the next. 
We’ll enjoy this good news for the moment, but then we have to get back to work.”

Next-generation rotorcraft, the descendants of Ingenuity, 

could add an aerial dimension to future exploration of the Red Planet. 
These advanced robotic flying vehicles would offer a unique viewpoint 
not provided by current orbiters high overhead or by rovers and landers on the ground, 
providing high-definition images and reconnaissance for robots or humans, 
and enable access to terrain that is difficult for rovers to reach.



Not much helicopter action required by NASA to justify the investment as a success for the helicopter.
Where,
do they say:
If Ingenuity flies,
and takes images that are sent back to Earth,
then and only then is the helicopter a success?

look at the lofty NASA goals for the helicopter again:


Quote:If Ingenuity survives its first bone-chilling Martian nights,
If Ingenuity succeeds in taking off and hovering during its first flight,
If the rotorcraft lands successfully and remains operable,
over 90% 
of the project’s goals will have been achieved.


Al that sounds like the NASA rabbit went and hid down the Mole Hole that failed.

I am not impressed by .. if's,  and's,  maybe's,  and / or,  butt kiss bullshit.

But I do wish them well, 
because I really want to see that thing take a fucking picture while flying like Lucy In the Sky,
and send it back home to Earth.

So looking at the NASA timeline of deployment,
we may have to wait up to 90 to 120 days,
to possibly see an image from the helicopter.

Nonono

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I heard talk about how much better it would fly on Titan with its much thicker atmosphere.
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Quote:I heard talk about how much better it would fly on Titan,
with its much thicker atmosphere.


The Desert  Dragonfly weighs all of 4 pounds and can likely only safely fly in very calm dustless conditions,
regardless of the pressure difference on Mars being so low to Earth's.
The sooner they get that thing out on the ground and tested in the air,
the better the chance of it working, 
rather than hanging on to the belly of the rover.

Quote:Individual dust particles on Mars are very small and slightly electrostatic,
so they stick to the surfaces they contact like Styrofoam packing peanuts.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/the...ust-storms



This is the image at the above NASA link on Martian dust and sand storms 

[Image: mars_0.jpg]




Quote:“If you’ve seen pictures of Curiosity after driving, it’s just filthy,” Smith said.

“The dust coats everything and it’s gritty;
it gets into mechanical things that move,
like gears.”


So weather without any form of dust storm light or strong,
while the 'copter is still attached for the next 30-60 days,
is a highly desirable commodity for this helicopter survival.
That is very possible,
that for the next 120 days they might get a nice window of cool dry calm Mars,
and not a speck of dust will get into the helicopter rotors.
I sure hope so,
because:


Quote:NASA has invested about US$80 million to build the Mars Helicopter Ingenuity,
and about US$5 million to operate the helicopter.


A four pound helicopter that probably should not get too dusty,
on a planet of potentially sudden and severe dust storms,
cost 85 million Rofl


OK, OK, so they have to "make work" at NASA ... 
but look at the thinking,
behind the 85 million $ investment:


Quote:But the drone’s mission is refreshingly simple
It has been sent to fly—
probably no more than 20-30 feet high,
and 1,000 feet horizontally, 
and for no more than 90 seconds at a time. 
That’s all.


"refreshingly simple" ... should not cost 85 million $  Nonono 

Somebody needs to think more clearly in mission planning and funding expenditures. Slap2 

For 85 million dollars,
the science should expect and demand better goals and results,
than that feeble nonsense in the quote above.

Thus we get to the suggestion of -- the helicopter on Titan.

The helicopter for the Titan mission has a dandy name!
NASA named it:

Refreshing Lol Simplicity

For 85 million more funding dollars, 
the Refreshing Lol  Simplicity --- Titan mission helicopter,
will try to fly:

Quote:probably no more than 20-30 feet high,
and 1,000 feet horizontally, 
and for no more than 90 seconds at a time ...
https://slate.com/technology/2021/02/mar...-nasa.html

and hope,
it doesn't get caught,
in a Titan-ic methane rain, wind or snow storm.

The Ingenuity helicopter has a better chance to survive and work on Mars IMO.

But this is where the whole mission just leaves me hanging with a big ... w t f Whip  


Quote:The plan is for the rover to drill into the Martian surface, 
take rock and soil samples, 
and save them, 
probably for years, 
in super-sterilized containers,
that would be returned to Earth by a future mission Scream 

 that is as yet only partly designed, 
and not yet approved or funded.   Rofl 

The samples might not get back here until the early 2030s, 
if they ever do.

https://slate.com/technology/2021/02/mar...-nasa.html


Fly baby,
like Lucy in the Sky ... don't let us down NASA.
It has to happen.
No excuses.
Niente,
nichts nein Frakenstein,
no excuses.

I can hear Jimi Hendrix up in heaven playing a new tune on his guitar ... "Desert Dragonfly" 


Quote:... two stiffened carbon-fiber rotors, 
one on top of the other, 
each about four feet long, 
spinning in opposite directions at about 2,400 rotations per minute. 
(A typical helicopter on Earth does less than 500 rpm.) 
If the drone went any slower it would never get airborne; 
any faster,
and the tips of the blades might flirt  Luv with supersonic speed, 
causing shock waves,
that would make control all but impossible.


Send the helicopter all the love you can.
But ... 
No Excuses. ... Just Fly, ... and justify ... the 85 million.

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"... two stiffened carbon-fiber rotors, 
one on top of the other, 
each about four feet long, 
spinning in opposite directions at about 2,400 rotations per minute. 
(A typical helicopter on Earth does less than 500 rpm.) 
If the drone went any slower it would never get airborne; 
any faster,
and the tips of the blades might flirt  [Image: luv.gif] with supersonic speed, 
causing shock waves,
that would make control all but impossible."


Will the blades spring out to fly?
Pictures don't make it clear......

They played sounds off the microphone 
(don't know if it was during landing)
so the rotors should also be audible.                                                                                                                                                                
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Do you see now NASA boys and girls? 
I am not so bad after all. 
Send all the love you can to that helicopter!


Quote:and the tips of the blades might flirt  [Image: luv.gif] with supersonic speed,



Just keeping you on your toes NASA Jill's and Joe's ...  Now Dance ! 

The NASA "Gimme Five Dance"


 

The babe up front in the orange ... Hugs 
well she is in too good of dancing shape with those noticeably firm t-----s,
so I don't think she actually works at NASA ...  Hi
but
most of the sweet and funny bone NASA folks there dancing,
are a bit like the donut dudes and the donut dolls ... Reefer 

Rofl

But you better love that helicopter!

You cannot cancel culture this:

Worship Love The NASA Helicopter 

But,
On Facebook today <---
This trending Socialist climate change garbage,
is now,
working directly against NASA Whip 
yes,
YOU NASA boneheads that promote the Globalist scam of CO2 emissions ending the world,
this is what you get in return:

[Image: TfTGErk.jpg]


Climate Change is a solar driven phenomena.
Arctic has been ice free many times in the last 100,000 years.

John Kerry and AOC and Joe Biden are not NASA friendly politicians,
as they push this horseshit:
"world will end in 10 years if we don't stop climate change" 

China building coals plants faster than you can say Ka-Mae-La Harris.
Russian natural gas pipeline almost finished to Europe.
Chinese don't have to comply to Paris Climate Treaty for ten years.

In ten years Xi Jinping will just say, "Sorry, we need another ten years'

In the meantime,
NASA funding gets cut by the pressure of --- "climate change activism" ,
and the Chinese,
will bury us in space on the Moon and on Mars,
while NASA gets hammered by Socialist climate change politically correct reallocations of federal funding.

So,
that goddam helicopter had better fly.

Fly on Desert Dragonfly.

Lets see NASA sell the next helicopter plan for the Titan trip,
to the climate change Socialists like AOC,
who wants to simply defund NASA ... just as much as she wants to defund the police.

So send NASA Lots of LOVE !

NASA needs all the love it can get,
when Joe Biden collapses from thinking too hard,
and Ka-Mae-La's Commies -- the Squad ... take over the NASA funding  Naughty
and reallocate all the NASA money to:
Covid Positive Climate Change Refugees from Central America.


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100+ pages of images...

Images from the Mars Perseverance Rover - NASA Mars
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Thanks for posting the image link!

Many of those images are simply exact repeats on later pages.
None the less that is great to see fresh Rover images!

[Image: ZLF_0003_0667219443_000FDR_N0010052AUT_0...01_800.jpg]


and I found this on page 7, a very cool upright rock formation with a relatively smooth surface.
Cropped and enhanced.

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