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dealey plaza
#1
while working in dallas recently i happened up on dealey plaza. i was amazed because its much smaller than photos would lead us to belive it is. when i was younger i was really into hunting. seeing the actual size of the place, i realized that it would be quite easy for a good shooter to hit a target the size of a human head moat anywhere in the place. no more difficult than shooting a running rabbit. i guess that the point of this post is that i and many other people have been conditioned to think in a specific manner which leads away from the truth. regardless of all of the controversy surrounding the event, being there made it quite evident that it was an easy thing to do. much easier than, say, procuring dna samples from the bush family or getting a straight answer from nasa. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/peace.gif" alt="Peace" title="peace" />
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#2
thanks almon, it's always good to have and to hear a first person view.
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#3
I was there too, the grassy knoll and the overpass would have been very easy.
The book repository window wouldn't have
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#4
From the "snipers" perch, this is "the only webcam in the world"... from the depository building. (much better in daylight of course).

Interesting view, non the less.

http://www.earthcam.com/jfk/

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#5
Jim Mars went up in the textbook depository researching his JFK assassination book and tested the same kind of Italian rifle that Oswald had. Said there wasn't time to aim and hit anything with that awkward bolt-action rifle. The sequence of shots heard couldn't all have been from that rifle because they were too close together. It definitely wouldn't have been a real assassin's first choice of weapon.
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#6
I surely wouldn't have chosen it.

however, the fence behind the grassy knoll and the overpass were both excellent snipe locations..

another great location for a sniper perch (and shots were heard to have come from there) is the building across the street from the book repository, from the second story you have a straight shot all the way down the road.
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#7
yes, just being there makes one feel like the proverbial "fish in a barrel" everything around is really close, the fence and overpass are within shotgun range of the point of impact, so even an amateur would have had a good chance with a rifle, not to mention the hired expert.
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#8
WHOA! Did JACKIE administer the head shot?

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/7625

step by step through -the Zapruder film- I had noticed before that it appeared that Jackie was stashing something in a spce around the back seat...

http://assassinationscience.com/johncos ... index.html
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Gard said:

Quote:step by step through -the Zapruder film- I had noticed before that it appeared that Jackie was stashing something in a spce around the back seat...

You need to see these two:

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8&NR=1 (in slow motion)

and then this enhanced version:

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?feature=rel ... aUtS2Gf6ws

These show clearly that she uses both her hands to "comfort" JFK and then
after the fatal head shots her hand is placed on JFK's shoulder with her elbow
against the car seat. Then her arm drops down after she starts to get up to
sprawl across the back of the car but very quickly up again to reach over to
pick up whatever "flew" that way which I believe was a piece of JFK's brain or
skull(?).

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#10
thanks Orpbit2-I watched them, the first one clearly showing her holding JFK's left arm down after he and Connely had been hit-with both white gloved hands.

I've never noticed before that her head was so close to JFK's when the devastating head shot was administered-surprised she didn't have a face full of splatter.

JFK WAS AN INSIDE JOB.

while googling 'did Jackie kill JFK' it came to me why JFK JR was cremated and ashes put to sea. They didn't want any dna around to prove that he was ONASSIS' child not JFK's son.

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#11
I never shot a Carcano rifle, but it looks alot similar to mine Mosin rifle, and I tell you what they are not easy to shoot repetedly and accurately.

I can easily see how you can do what they say he did with a Springfield 1903 which is alot easier to handle, but a giant Carcano is too bulky.
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#12
I was in Dallas about a year ago, within walking distance of Dealy Plaza, but stayed away.
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#13
try reading "the radical right and the murder of john f kennedy" by harrison e livingstone. it contains an interesting theory about shooters in storm drains
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#14
and there IS a storm drain right there by the head shot locale.
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#15
Quote:and there IS a storm drain right there by the head shot locale.
What kind of a storm drain? Wouldn't that would be a really difficult shot unless the shooter was uphill from the limo?
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#16
there is one at each end of the overpass. i have also recently read of the theory of 2 oswalds and it seems to be the only thing that makes sense of the conflicting reports of persons seeing oswald after the shooting.
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Quote:[quote author="Keith"]and there IS a storm drain right there by the head shot locale.
What kind of a storm drain? Wouldn't that would be a really difficult shot unless the shooter was uphill from the limo?[/quote]


Actually it would have been a great place to have administered the head shot,
it's one of those drains that is in the curb.
The only drawback I can see to it is that it would have been really close to the car, with a narrow opportunity for a good shot as the limo passed by.

The Grassy knoll on the other hand...
definitely a good shot.

The book repository window?

No way.

there's a tree in the way.
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#18
Quote:[quote author="Samurai Jane"][quote author="Keith"]and there IS a storm drain right there by the head shot locale.
What kind of a storm drain? Wouldn't that would be a really difficult shot unless the shooter was uphill from the limo?[/quote]


Actually it would have been a great place to have administered the head shot,
it's one of those drains that is in the curb.

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I don't know, little kids are fascinated by those drains and they are are always looking down into them.

At any rate, the real shooters were Joe DiMaggio on the grassy knoll, and Arthur Miller in the Textbook Depository.
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Quote:almon said:
try reading "the radical right and the murder of john f kennedy" by harrison e livingstone. it contains an interesting theory about shooters in storm drains
Yeah, I saw (one of the several) JFK analysis shows on TV quite some time ago where the drain was mentioned (along with 'badge man' and other possibilities). I have thought there was a shooter at grassy knoll for many years, even despite still another JFK analysis based solely on sound (the one officer's mike that was keyed open). Of course, if a thorough and impartial investigation ever did take place, and a conspiracy was proven, there would be the backlash of another consipiracy that there was a conspiracy to prove a conspiracy (unless, of course, that conspiracy is already in place).

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