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Radiation found after spy's death
I trust Russian media more than MEANSTREAM MEDIA of USA:

There was a story I saved but can't link now but UK has their OWN poisonous weapons lab and could have done it to beat up more on Russia on the Imperial Zionists of USA & Israel.

We must agree to disagree on this point.

Also reminder you think CIA stopped trafficking in Drugs AFTER the Iran-Contra scandal ???

more links that are important:

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and then

Quote:The 28 European Union leaders say 
“there is no plausible alternative explanation” 
for the nerve agent attack in Britain’s Salisbury 
other than that Russia is “highly likely” Lol  responsible.

clowns can't even say it right <--> responsible ... is how you say it straight ...
they could not say that could they,
but nonetheless May must have been convincing at the EU.

Quote:EU recalls Moscow envoy after blaming Russia over spy attack

BRUSSELS — The European Union is recalling its ambassador from Moscow,
for consultations over the nerve gas attack against a former spy in Britain earlier this month,
reinforcing a united stand with Prime Minister Theresa May against Russia.

After the EU firmly sided with May,
in the escalating conflict reminiscent of the Cold War,
and said it was “highly likely Russia is responsible” for the attack on Sergei Skripal, 

May won the backing of 27 other EU leaders Whip
at a summit Thursday,
and the bloc called the attack a “grave challenge to our shared security.” <---- 

The EU states said,
they would “coordinate on the consequences,
to be drawn in the light of the answers provided by the Russian authorities.”

May was delighted with the support early Friday. 
This is about us standing together to uphold our values against the Russian threat,” she said.

Rutte said no sanctions were actually discussed at the summit,
even though rumors swirled of more drastic diplomatic measures. 
President Dalia Grybauskaite of former Soviet state Lithuania, 
said she was considering expelling Russian diplomats in the wake of the March 4 attack.

Rutte said over the coming days or weeks, “we and our partners must see what the logical next steps are.”

He insisted that any measure: 
“must have an added value to this extremely strong political declaration.”

The unanimity was a victory for May. 
She had been striving at a summit in Brussels,
to persuade her EU colleagues to unite in condemning Moscow over the attack on Skripal, 
a former Russian military intelligence officer convicted of spying for Britain, 
and his daughter, Yulia.

Russia strongly denies responsibility and has slammed Britain’s investigation.

During a summit dinner, 
May laid out the reasons Britain is convinced Moscow was behind the attack, 
including the type of poison used — a Soviet-developed nerve agent known as Novichok — 
and intelligence that Russia has produced it within the last decade. <----

Britain argues the attack is part of a pattern of behavior by an increasingly assertive Russia,
whose muscle-flexing,
cyber-meddling and law-breaking on foreign soil,
pose a threat to the international rule of law.

May said Thursday that “it is clear that the Russian threat doesn’t respect borders.”
 She said 
“the incident in Salisbury was part of a pattern of Russian aggression against Europe and its near neighbors, 
from the western Balkans to the Middle East.”

Russia’s ambassador to the U.K., Alexander Yakovenko, 
accused the U.K. Thursday of having: 
a “bad record of violating international law and misleading the international community.”

“History shows that British statements must be verified,” 
he told reporters in London, 
demanding “full transparency of the investigation and full cooperation with Russia” 
and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

counter punch Whip

Quote:Poison in nerve agent attack could be from UK lab, says Russia's EU ambassador

Vladimir Chizhov told the BBC that Russia did not stock the toxin, 
and said that the Porton Down lab was only eight miles (12km) from Salisbury —
 where the attack occurred.

In response to a question on how the nerve agent ended up in Salisbury, 
he told the BBC: 
"Porton Down, as we now all know, 
is the largest military facility in the United Kingdom, 
that has been dealing with chemical weapons research."

On Saturday, 
Russia ordered 23 British diplomats to leave Moscow within a week
in retaliation for Britain's decision to kick out 23 Russians, 
amid an escalating row between both countries over a nerve agent used — since World War Two — 
in the attempted murder of former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter.

Chizhov told BBC that in addition, 
there were "certain specialists", 
including scientists, 
claiming they have created some nerve agents, who are now living in Britain.

Mr Chizhov said that Skripal could "rightly be referred to as a traitor" 
but "from the legal point of view,
the Russian state had nothing against him",   Rofl
according to the BBC report.

UK's foreign office 

said there was "not an ounce of truth" in what he is saying about Porton Down, 
and dismissed it as "nonsense," Nonono
the report said.

Not so fast Naughty

Which is ONE main reason why I trust Russian media and NOT the WESTERN MEANSTREAM MEDIA !!! Applause

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Both links do not open, Bob:

No secure link -- notice -- when links are clicked

Your Veterans Today news links have a dismal record anyways,
of fake news,
and of being the easiest sources to debunk,
due to their overt Russian oriented propaganda,
written by stupid people ... who want to be ... Russian propagandists.

they never measure up to the Big Boys working the propaganda in Russia,
that are the old pros,
at Russian international news manipulation.

(03-24-2018, 03:59 AM)Vianova Wrote: ...

Both links do not open, Bob:

No secure link -- notice -- when links are clicked

Your Veterans Today news links have a dismal record anyways,
of fake news,
and of being the easiest sources to debunk,
due to their overt Russian oriented propaganda,
written by stupid people ... who want to be ... Russian propagandists.

they never measure up to the Big Boys working the propaganda in Russia,
that are the old pros,
at Russian international news manipulation.


Actually in Firefox they ALWAYS open.  If you're using some other browser, please note that recently issues with Facebook and UK Spy Dossier was FIRST pointed out by Veterans Today.  These are https:// and SECURE links.

This is the first time they have tied the Royal Family & the Rothschild Empire to the Dossier as well.

You will notice that the Blame Russia for killing the Spy and his daughter , even in British media is now DEBUNKED !!!

Do you blame Trump or Fox news and other MEANSTREAM MEDIA for USA ALWAYS siding with Imperialistic Zionism?

Do you KNOW that the "chemical weapons" came from UK and USA companies SENT to Syria through Jordan, Turkey and Saudia Arabia?   Also the CIA is STILL in the smuggling drugs business?

If Trump wants to end opiods...KILL THE CIA and smash it into a TRILLION pieces so scattered they could never amass such power over the US Citizens again EVER?

There that solves your issue with going to VT.

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The spin ... is really spinning fast on this event.

fake ... and ... counter fake ?

On the TV fake news CNN and FOX TV today,
there were a couple of twinkie blinkies ... fast fake news clips ...
about this,
from solely one news source,
published  for internet use.

Quote:Russia accuses UNITED STATES of developing nerve agent used in Salisbury spy attack

According to Russian media reports, 
the head of the laboratory for chemical and analytical control 
at the Russian Defence Ministry, 
Igor Rybalchenko, 
said there is a document in existence that confirms the bombshell claims.

He has alleged the toxic substance was added to the US database,
by someone in the US Army Armament Research and Development Center.

Rybalchenko said: 
"The fact is that back in 1998 when we looked through another version of the spectral library, 
which was published by the National Bureau of Standards of the United States (NBS), 
we found a substance there,
that we found interesting since it was an organophosphorus substance.

“And we realised that it must have a strong lethal effect. 
Now it turns out that, judging by the name of this substance, 
it was just the same nerve agent, A-234.”

The scientist added: 
"The most interesting detail in this story is in the following versions of the database, 
which usually only expand, 
they are constantly replenished, 
more and more substances, we did not find this record. 
And I can't explain where is it now.”


This did not make it on any other news source I could see,
but I bet it shows up on:
Veterans Today Whip

then this oddity showed up ...
as if this guy would live very long,
after making these comments

Quote:'Russia's novichok programme exists, I worked on it,' scientist tells Sky News

Scientist Vladimir Uglev tells Sky News he fears the worst for the Skripals: 
"My hands were still sweating a few years later."
He knows what novichok can do,
because he has accidentally exposed himself to it "on two or three occasions".
Vladimir Uglev says he is unwilling to deny a lifetime's work.

Amongst the water-logged fields of southern Russia, 
there is a modest looking town with an unusual resident - 
a scientist who played a key role in the development of Soviet nerve agents.

His name is Vladimir Uglev and he told us he was willing to talk about his role in the novichok programme.

The 71-year-old retired scientist did not want to meet us at his home - 
instead we found him waiting at a bus stop just off the main highway and as he got in, 
he blamed us for the cold weather.

"You've got me frozen," he grumbled.

But Mr Uglev was prepared to speak about his career 
at a secretive government laboratory in the region of Saratov.

"I worked there until 1993," he said.

"The Americans asked me to keep on working, <----
and I was offered a job in the Russian government - but I declined."

Later, at a quiet spot by the Black Sea, 
Mr Uglev told us he invented two of four substances 
that were later classified as novichok agents 
at a facility led by fellow scientist Pyotr Kirpichev.

"I was in the Kirpichev laboratory at the right time and the right place.

"Some people had worked there for dozens of years, 
and didn't achieve anything,
but in just three months I managed to create two of the most promising substances."

But a succession of senior Russian officials
have denied the existence of any novichok programme in the Soviet Union and Russia.

I asked the former scientist how he felt about it.

"Then it means I don't exist, 
I could disappear into thin air. 
I am standing here in front of you. 
For 15 years I worked on it. 
Not only on novichok - there were different projects, they were changing every year."

Mr Uglev also has a problem with comments made by Vladimir Putin, 
just after he had won himself a commanding victory in last Sunday's presidential election.

Responding to a journalist's question about the Skripal affair, 
President Putin rubbished claims of Russian involvement.

If a "military-grade" nerve agent had been used in Salisbury he said, 
Sergei and Yulia Skripal would have died instantly.

But the former scientist told me that was silly - 

it depends how much liquid or powder (novichok agents were produced in both) is used.


Trump  Hi  sends a message to Putin Whip
Trump orders expulsion of 60 Russian diplomats, 
closure of Seattle consulate  Rofl

Quote:The Trump administration expelled 60 Russian diplomats on Monday,
and ordered Russia's consulate in Seattle to close, 
as the United States and European nations sought to jointly punish Moscow
 for its alleged role in poisoning an ex-spy in Britain.
Senior Trump administration officials said all 60 Russians were spies  Rofl
working in the U.S. 
under diplomatic cover, 
including a dozen at Russia's mission to the United Nations. 
The officials said the administration was taking the action, 
to send a message to Russia's leaders, 
about the "unacceptably high" number of Russian intelligence operatives in the U.S.

The White House made the announcement in a statement early Monday morning:

"Today President Donald J. Trump  Hi
ordered the expulsion of dozens of Russian intelligence officers Kickbut
from the United States and the closure of the Russian consulate in Seattle, 
due to its proximity to one of our submarine bases and Boeing. 

The United States takes this action in conjunction with our NATO allies,
and partners around the world in response to Russia's use of a military-grade chemical weapon,
on the soil of the United Kingdom, 
the latest in its ongoing pattern of destabilizing activities around the world. 

Today's actions make the United States safer by reducing Russia's ability to spy on Americans,
and to conduct covert operations that threaten America's national security. 
With these steps, the United States and our allies and partners make clear to Russia,
that its actions have consequences. 
The United States stands ready to cooperate to build a better relationship with Russia, 
but this can only happen with a change in the Russian government's behavior."

Shortly after the announcement, 
State Department Spokesperson Heather Nauert said in a statement,
"The United States calls on Russia to accept responsibility for its actions
and to demonstrate to the world 
that it is capable of living up to its international commitments and responsibilities,
as a member of the UN Security Council to uphold international peace and security."

Nauert added of the punishment for Russia's "destabilizing behavior", 
that the U.S. 
"takes these actions to demonstrate our unbreakable solidarity with the United Kingdom
and to impose serious consequences on Russia,
for its continued violations of international norms."

Meanwhile, Mr. Trump's  Hi
top U.N. diplomat Nikki Haley sent a statement saying,
that twelve intelligence operatives from the Russian Mission to the United Nations,
have abused their privilege of residence in the United States, 
CBS News' Pamela Falk reports. 

"Here in New York, 
Russia uses the United Nations as a safe haven for dangerous activities within our own borders, " 
Ambassador Haley said. 

The expelled Russians will have seven days to leave the U.S, said the officials. 

They weren't authorized to be identified by name and requested anonymity. 
They added that the Seattle consulate is a counter-intelligence concern,
because of its proximity to a U.S. Navy base.
The move was one of the most significant actions President Donald Trump's administration,
has taken to date to push back on Moscow and Russian President Vladimir Putin. 

Less than a week ago, 
Mr. Trump congratulated Putin by phone for his re-election but didn't raise the spy case, 
renewing questions about whether the U.S. president is too soft on the Kremlin.

The Russians preemptively responded to threats of the expected expulsion 

through a series of social media messages. 
Russia's Embassy in the United States,
tweeted late Sunday night, 
"Strategic stability of the entire world depends on Russia-US relations. 
They should not be taken hostage by clearly staged stories."

I think that the Russians did it.
If Vlady and the Kremlin Klowns had nothing to do with the ordering and planning,
then they need to muscle up the Russian apparatus that performed the gas attack.

I also don't think that this is anything that new.
Russian political vengeance and Russian justice for traitors goes deep.
This isn't as bad as using polonium.
I think it is business as usual for Kremlin international political control policies.

Just like the US and China do the same,
though the Russians are really bad with overt and open international attacks,
often with toxic substances and outright political motivated murder,
orchestrated simultaneously with:
a prepared response,
ready to absolutely deny everything every time,
and blame it on the opponent.
That is ... Russian Old Hat ... political policy. 

when you post those goofy Veterans Today links,
be sure to supply the article text,
since I cannot open the links, please.


[Image: cambridge-analytica.jpg?w=672&h=372&crop=1]

Cambridge Analytica-SCL: Psy-ops by UK-US Deep State Actors

March 27, 2018 Covert Geopolitics

The scandal surrounding Facebook’s relationship with Cambridge Analytica, the election data company previously associated with former Trump campaign Chairman Steve Bannon, dominates the media in the US and Britain.

by Julie Hyland

The serious privacy concerns involved in the harvesting of the personal information of some 50 million Facebook users was underscored by Britain’s Channel 4 News. An undercover investigation filmed Cambridge Analytica CEO Alexander Nix boasting of dirty tricks operations to ensnare politicians and subvert elections.

But while the disclosures are being used to bolster hysterical claims of “Russian meddling,” a closer examination reveals that the real and far more fundamental threat to democratic rights involves psy-ops programmes run by elements of the British and US deep state.

Cambridge Analytica’s parent company is British-based SCL. Formerly Strategic Communication Laboratories, it is a private behavioural research and strategic communication company, founded in 1993 by Nigel Oakes. The son of Major John Waddington Oakes and a former boyfriend of Lady Helen Windsor, Oakes was formerly employed by Margaret Thatcher’s favourite advertising agency, Saatchi & Saatchi, before establishing SCL.

As with Oakes, SCL’s board members include scions of the British ruling class, from former military officers and defence contractors to major Conservative Party donors.

Lord Ivar Mountbatten, third cousin to Queen Elizabeth, is on the board, while CEO Roger Gabb is a millionaire wine merchant, a former British special forces officer and major contributor to the Tory Party. SCL President Sir Geoffrey Pattie was a defence minister under Thatcher. SCL chairman is the venture capitalist Julian Wheatland, also chairman of Oxfordshire Conservatives Association. Former Conservative Party Treasurer Jonathan Marland, trade envoy under Prime Minister David Cameron, is a shareholder.

Others associated, past or present, with SCL include property billionaire and Tory Party donor Vincent Tchenguiz; Sir James Allen Mitchell, privy counsellor since 1985; Rear Admiral John Tolhurst, a former assistant director of naval warfare in the Ministry of Defence and aide de camp to the Queen; and Gavin McNicoll, creator of the Eden Intelligence firm, which has run projects for the British government.

SCL boasts of providing “data, analytics and strategy to governments and military organizations worldwide,” notably the British Ministry of Defence, the US State Department and NATO. It states that it has carried out “behavioural change programs” in more than 60 countries. One of its first contracts in 1999 was promoting Indonesian President Abdurrahman Wahid. It has worked to influence elections in Afghanistan, Latvia, Ukraine, Nigeria and Kenya among others.

Cambridge Analytica was launched in 2012 by SCL to extend its operations to the US. In partnership with hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer, this included the Republican primaries for the 2016 election, where it worked to support Ted Cruz and then Donald Trump.

There is nothing new in this. Similar activities were known of, facilitated and endorsed by the political and military establishment in Britain and the US for years.

According to Liam O’Hare at Bella Caladonia, SCL went public in 2005 at the DSEI conference, a global arms fair in London, promoting itself as the first private company to provide psychological warfare services to the British military:

“Its ‘hard sell’ was a demonstration of how the UK government could use a sophisticated media campaign of mass deception to fool the British people into the thinking an accident at a chemical plant had occurred and threatened central London.”

Such a sales pitch is even more chilling given the recent events in Salisbury, where the alleged attempted assassination of double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia—victims of a still unidentified nerve agent—is being used by the government to stage provocations against Russia.

A Freedom of Information request from August 2016 showed the MoD took out a £40,000 contract with SCL for the “provision of external training” in 2010/11 and £150,000 for the “procurement of target audience analysis” in 2014/15.

“In addition, SCL also carries a secret clearance as a ‘list X’ contractor for the MOD. A List X site is a commercial site on British soil that is approved to hold UK government information marked as ‘confidential’ and above. Essentially, SCL got the green light to hold British government secrets on its premises.”

Revelations of the British military’s connections with SCL forced Prime Minister Theresa May to declare in Parliament Wednesday,

“As far as I’m aware the government has no current contracts with Cambridge Analytica or with the SCL Group.”
A spokesperson admitted that the government had held three previous contracts with SCL Group, but said these had now ended.

According to the Guardian, in 2014 “MoD officials worked with SCL Group on ‘Project Duco’ to analyse how people would interact with certain government messaging.”

The project was carried out by the MoD’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL), which is focused on maximising “the impact of science and technology for the defence and security of the UK.”

Project Duco was part of the government’s “human and social influence” work, and SCL was paid £150,000. It assessed how Target Audience Analysis (TAA) could “contribute to the government’s strategic communications.”

The Guardian has been in the forefront of the campaign over Russian fake news in the UK. But it was forced to acknowledge that SCL’s work on Project Duco and its “list X” ranking “is likely to raise concerns that government officials were aware of Cambridge Analytica and SCL’s operations, and intended to use them to promote government messages.”

In other words, Cambridge Analytica and SCL were not acting as proxies for the Russian state but rather for significant sections of the US/UK military and intelligence apparatus. A link to the heavily redacted report on Project Duco is here. Note that intellectual copyright is held by the government’s science and technology laboratory at Porton Down, just eight miles from Salisbury.

Nafeez Ahmed at INSURGE intelligence elaborated on the connections between SCL, the British foreign office and “other elements of the UK political and financial establishment.” These are so close that “last year the Foreign Office executive agency, Wilton Park, invited SCL Group subsidiary, SCL Elections, to speak about how the use of data in the 2016 Presidential election could be applied in the British government’s diplomatic and foreign policy agenda.”

The SCL Group executives were Mark Turnbull, managing director of SCL Elections, and David Wilkinson, then lead data scientist, who addressed the FCO in February 2017 on the subject of “examining the application of data in the recent US Presidential election.”

“The meeting was attended and opened by Jonathan Allen — then the FCO’s Acting Director General for Defence and Intelligence. Allen is now Theresa May’s Deputy Permanent Representative to the United Nations.”

O’Hare explains that the TAA “evolved during the battle for hearts and minds in Afghanistan.”

A SCL whistle-blower has charged that techniques used by the SCL Group has traced TAA back to the methods used by the US and UK militaries in Iraq. reports the whistle-blower stating that “some of this technology was actually owned by the UK Ministry of Defence and/or the US Military, and now they don’t want people to know that it was their weapon that’s currently in the wild, being used privately to manipulate elections worldwide.”

SCL received £548,000 for delivering training to NATO that included providing an eight-week course for its staff. This was “subsequently passed on to Georgian, Ukrainian and Moldovan government officials.”

Turnbull is also head of Cambridge Analytica Political Global. He was previously employed for 18 years at Bell Pottinger where, O’Hare reports, he headed up “the Pentagon funded PR drive in occupied Iraq which included the production of fake al-Qaeda videos.”

The US State Department has a contract for $500,000 with SLC to provide “research and analytical support in connection with our mission to counter terrorist propaganda and disinformation overseas.”

An offshoot, SCL Defense, received $775,000 “to support NATO operations in Eastern Europe targeting Russia.”
O’Hare reports,

“The company delivered a three-month course in Riga which taught ‘advanced counter-propaganda techniques designed to help member states assess and counter Russia’s propaganda in Eastern Europe.’

“The NATO website said the ‘revolutionary’ training would ‘help Ukrainians better defend themselves against the Russian threat’.”

SCL has also had contracts with the Pentagon for psy-ops in Iran and Yemen.

Whatever the exact beginnings of the TAA programme, the real news story being buried by the official media is that the covert operations and subversion techniques deployed in US and British imperialism’s neo-colonial adventures are now being used on their domestic populations.
Sources listed above...NOTHING to do with Veterans Today...YET VT is USUALLY FIRST !!! to "break the NEWS" ...not Deep State Fake News MEANSTREAM MEDIA !!!

And Vianova  I had ALREADY placed the VT articles on my site which YOU SHOULD have been able to open EASILY with ANY browser on ANY OS.  I gave you the links to MY site so you COULD read the articles FULLY and also the IMAGES associated with them.

If you're still think America the GREAT !!! has NEVER EVER done anything wrong then you MUST think that 19 Saudi Arabs DID 911, WITHOUT ANY explosives ???

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bob sez

Quote:If you're still think America the GREAT !!! has NEVER EVER done anything wrong ...


America right or wrong in other actions,
has nothing to do with Russian spy poisoning in the UK right here and now.

Are you saying that this whole thing is an ---> American - British ... spy novel conspiracy?

And 27 countries are duped easily and blindly,
into making a joint condemnation of the Russians?

That Trump Hi  is an unwitting dupe as well?
Or is he a co-conspirator with Theresa  Sheep May ?

quote from your article

Quote:... even more chilling given the recent events in Salisbury, 
where the alleged  Rofl  attempted assassination of double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia—
victims of a still unidentified nerve agent   Doh
is being used by the government to stage provocations against Russia.

is bullshit.
It is quite clear,
and without any doubt,
that there was an ---  assassination attempt, be that by Russians or British conspiracy.

Quote:victims of a still unidentified nerve agent

that is bullshit too.

Quote:... being used by the {British} government to stage provocations against Russia.

that is true, 
and the provocations are indeed intentional,
by 27 countries that signed on to condemn the Russians -- directly pointing at Putin.

Trump  Hi  expels the entire Russian embassy in Seattle -- 
and calls the total Russians expelled as --- 60 spies  Rofl

The article on Cambridge Analytica proves nothing at all Whip

As if the Russian Kremlin intelligence apparatus,
doesn't do the exact same thing as Cambridge Analytica does, on social networks,
and over the wide spectrum of internet activities.
It is called:
Cyber War.

Portland down.....   The UK's not so secret chemical and biological weapons facility is only up the road...  

The most recent case of poisoning, leading to the one persons death sadly a few days ago are simply fallout from the British Secret services F*** ups if you ask me! I'm amazed they actually hit the (target and his daughter) a month or 2 previously - they couldnt find their arse from their elbow usually....  007 eat your heart out. 

As the world travels to Russia for the World Cup, they might realize the government based propaganda thats spoon fed to us all on a daily basis - is Get this - WRONG! So here's a way of stirring up the piss pot and throwing a few fire crackers in, make the mindless masses have a "Tainted view" of the reality...  Goebbels was pretty damn good at that crap too...  then when the war ended - America took the remnants of this propaganda machine away and started the ball rolling again. 

I cant wait for this sour old trout to be voted out of the UK government, she is a female version of rain man, but with less substance...  At this moment, I'd even consider Trump over the 'Conservative' party we got in power now..
(07-12-2018, 12:31 PM)Terraform Mars Wrote: Portland down.....   The UK's not so secret chemical and biological weapons facility is only up the road...  

The most recent case of poisoning, leading to the one persons death sadly a few days ago are simply fallout from the British Secret services F*** ups if you ask me! I'm amazed they actually hit the (target and his daughter) a month or 2 previously - they couldnt find their arse from their elbow usually....  007 eat your heart out. 

As the world travels to Russia for the World Cup, they might realize the government based propaganda thats spoon fed to us all on a daily basis - is Get this - WRONG! So here's a way of stirring up the piss pot and throwing a few fire crackers in, make the mindless masses have a "Tainted view" of the reality...  Goebbels was pretty damn good at that crap too...  then when the war ended - America took the remnants of this propaganda machine away and started the ball rolling again. 

I cant wait for this sour old trout to be voted out of the UK government, she is a female version of rain man, but with less substance...  At this moment, I'd even consider Trump over the 'Conservative' party we got in power now..

I'm reading the end of a book on A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind by Stephen Mitford Goodson that goes back to before Roman Empire to late 2016, ALL WARS ARE BANKER WARS !!!

Also the history of the Jews is that they were "born" in Baltic and Eastern Russia area, never in Palestine.  But as the Jews always say about war="By deceit we shall make and win our wars"

It was the Rothschild Family that started WWI and WWII I have no sympathy for 6 million Zionists when in WWI 66 Million Russian Civilians ALONE died not counting the millions of Russian fighters.

"007" may originally have come from British Monarchy Empire; but they've lost their Empire, and now they voters told the "power people" we do not want to take "orders" from Europe any more.  May will be gone before fall.

This rhw0007 states my soul is from Mars. I have had 7 out of body experiences plus 8 months of standing on the edge of my Cydonia Smoking Pyramid feeling the wind, the cinnamon of the blowing sand, feel it between my toes, and look around upon Ares Face and D&M plus the Alien Face just north of where I was standing.

The Jewish Mafia is behind EVERY SINGLE PRIVATE CENTRAL bank since ancient history.

They are also funding Trump which is why he moved Embassy to Jerusalem, has troops is Syria, and wants to sanction Russia, China, Iran, Brazil, Venezuela, all BRICS countries to defeat the US Dollar as the "World Reserve Currency".

It was the SAME reason Libya, and Iraq, and Afghanistan has troops.  Our Military is Corporate Thugs for Zionism around the planet.

We need Elon to get his head out of his ass and hole-boring and make that Big Fracking Rocket go and land near Cydonia and also send his OWN satellites to orbit around Mars and his OWN DSN here on Earth floating in several key points.

THAT is the infrastructure we need to get beyond this dying planet.

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I'm an Earthling with a Martian Soul wanting to go Home.   
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Mankind here, on this planet will fight until it destroys itself - to think if the world got its head out of its arse - realised all religions are based on one ancient belief / religion per say. 

If we only pooled our knowledge in positive way,  Mankind would already inhabit the Moon/ Europa / Ganymede / Mars and be mining resources for expansion at a formidable rate - Greed will always be mankinds downfall sadly.

Thanks for the links too, I shall have a read now.... 

the current episode of British Intelligence Litvinenko Syndrome Whip media Naughty  propaganda,
is poorly transpiring with the recent poisonings.

A mysterious bottle within the household of the recent victims had the nerve agent on it.
UK police find source of Novichok nerve agent in small bottle


The timing of the newest British casualties to Novichok,
and the Trump - Putin summit,
is obviously suspect.
At a time of political turmoil in Britain,
this event just plays into the Russians hands,
as convenient propaganda to use back against the Brits,
displaying their intrigue as simply:
British Intelligence Litvinenko Syndrome ...


As you have probably noticed in passing the TV news,
there have been a series of slow developments in the Russian spy poisononig case.
That has now come to the media forefront again.

Russian hit men with toxic poisons.

The men acknowledged they were in Salisbury at the time,
but claimed they were there as tourists Whip
Bellingcat Names Second Skripal Poisoning Suspect As Russian GRU Agent

Quote:Investigative website Bellingcat, 
has identified the second suspect in the nerve-agent attack,
on former Russian spy Sergei Skripal in Britain,
as a military doctor employed by Russia's GRU military intelligence agency.

Last month, British prosecutors charged two Russians -- 
Ruslan Boshirov and Aleksandr Petrov -- 
with attempted murder for carrying out the poisoning of Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, 
with the Novichok nerve toxin in the southern English city earlier this year.

The prosecutors said at the time the two were undercover GRU officers.
Russia has repeatedly denied any involvement in the Skripals' attempted murder.

"We have now identified 'Aleksandr Petrov'    Horsepoop
to be in fact 
Dr. Aleksandr Yevgenyevich Mishkin Pimp
a trained military doctor,
in the employ of the GRU," 
the British-based group said in a report published on its website.

Bellingcat, a website that covers intelligence matters, 
had previously identified Boshirov,
 on September 26, 
as being decorated GRU Colonel Anatoly ChepigaWhip

Kremlin Killers -- Russian spy novel nasties
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Quote:"While Aleksandr Mishkin's true persona has an even sparser digital footprint than Anatoly Chepiga's, 
Bellingcat has been able to establish certain key facts from his background," 
the October 8 report said.

It said that Mishkin was born in 1979 in the Archangelsk region in Northern European Russia, 
and was trained as a military doctor, 
for the Russian naval armed forces at one of Russia's elite military medical schools.

"During his medical studies, 
Mishkin was recruited by the GRU, 
and by 2010 had relocated to Moscow, 
where he received his undercover identity -- 
including a second national ID and travel passport -- 
under the alias Aleksandr Petrov," the report said.

"Bellingcat's identification process included multiple open sources, 
testimony from people familiar with the person, 
as well as copies of personally identifying documents, 
including a scanned copy of his passport," 
the website said.

In reaction to Bellingcat's latest report, 
British police said they would not comment on speculation 
regarding the real identities of those charged with poisoning the Skripals.

"We are not going to comment on speculation regarding their identities," 
London's police force said in a statement in response to a media query about the report.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said,
that the two men shown in British surveillance footage, 
near Skripal's home in Salisbury, 
and identified by British authorities as Boshirov and Petrov, 
were actually civilians on a tourist trip.

Putin on October 3 said that Skripal was a "scumbag" who had betrayed his country.

Britain on September 5 announced charges against the two Russian men,
as police issued photographs of the suspects.

The men acknowledged they were in Salisbury at the time,

but claimed they were there as tourists  Hi

Quite interesting actually.
Putin's assassination attempt of Skripal not only failed,
but has been handily exposed in the European media extensively.

MI6 could show some backbone and assassinate Mishkin.
They just aren't as good at it as the Russkies.
Assassination is simply routine maintenance in Putin's Russia.



Pussy Riot Whip targeted by Kremlin Killers

Quote:New details have emerged in the apparent poisoning of Russian activist Pyotr Verzilov, 
a member of the protest-art group Pussy Riot, 
and they may shed light on the deaths of three Russian journalists Whip
who were shot in the Central African Republic in July. 

Verzilov had apparently been working with the journalists before they travelled to Africa, 
and before he fell ill he’d been investigating their deaths, 
which the Russian government said had occurred as a result of a robbery.   Rofl

Verzilov, who is thirty, fell ill on September 11th. 

In the course of several hours, 
he lost his eyesight 
and his ability to speak, 
became delirious, 
and lost consciousness. 

He was hospitalized in Moscow in critical condition. 
Four days later, after he had stabilized, 
Verzilov was flown to Berlin, 
where he is now being treated at Charité hospital. 
On Tuesday, members of his German medical team held a press conference, 
during which they confirmed that Verzilov had probably been poisoned. 
He is recovering, 
but still hallucinating Damned

Also on Tuesday, one of Russia’s many quasi-anonymous, 
semi-underground online publications on the publishing and messaging platform Telegram—
the contemporary version of samizdat—
reported that Verzilov 
had been working on an investigative story about the deaths of the three Russian journalists, 
Alexander Rastorguev, Orkhan Dzhemal, and Kirill Radchenko. 

The three had been in the Central African Republic reporting on a mercenary force 
linked to a close associate of President Vladimir Putin. 

The suggestion that their deaths were connected to their investigative work 
surfaced as soon as they died, 
but the Russian Foreign Ministry slapped it down, 
branding a Dutch newspaper that mentioned the mercenaries “fake” news. Rofl

Verzilov, who studied philosophy at Moscow State University, is a conceptual artist and activist. 
He was married to Nadya Tolokonnikova, 
a founder of Pussy Riot, 
who was jailed along with another member, 
Maria Alekhina, in 2012 
for staging a protest at a Moscow cathedral. 

After the women were released, the next year, 
they founded a prisoners’-rights organization and an online publication, 
Media Zone, 
that focussed on prison and law-enforcement issues.
 Verzilov became its publisher, 
and Media Zone quickly established itself as one of the country’s most reliable sources of information. 

About a year ago, the team behind Media Zone 
decided to transform it into a general-interest publication.
 (As one of the editors told me at the time, 
every story about Russian law enforcement was dreary in the same way as every other.) 
They began covering protests, the Russian involvement in Syria, and other news of the day.

In an e-mail to me on Tuesday, 
Tolokonnikova confirmed that Verzilov had been slated to join the reporting trip on which the three men died, 
but he stayed in Moscow to organize and take part in a protest 
during the final match of the World Cup. 

He was arrested and jailed for fifteen days after the action, along with the three other protesters. 
The four were released on July 31st, 
the day after the Russian journalists died in the Central African Republic. 
One of the three who died, Rastorguev, 
had been a close friend of Verzilov.

According to the report on Telegram and in the semi-independent Moscow newspaper Novaya Gazeta, 
Verzilov raised money to mount an investigation into the journalists’ deaths. 
He had an additional connection to the C.A.R. through the Voice Project, 
a freedom-of-expression organization that got its start by working with musicians 
in Eastern and Central Africa in the two-thousands,
and later raised money for and campaigned on behalf of Pussy Riot. 
According to the Russian reports, 
Verzilov expected to receive some documents pertaining to his investigation the day that he fell ill.

Also on Tuesday, another Russian publication, 
the St. Petersburg-based Fontanka, 
published a story on its own reporters’ trip to the C.A.R., 
undertaken to trace the steps of the three murdered journalists. 
“If reading this leaves you with a sense of chaos, 
then we’ve done our jobs,” t
he subhead on the story said.
The most remarkable finding in the story,
is the apparently large role that Russian paramilitaries play in the C.A.R., 
but the story shed no light on the deaths of the journalists.

In the past decade and a half, Russian journalists have been beaten to death, shot, thrown out of windows, and poisoned. Yuri Shchekochikhin, a journalist and member of parliament, had been investigating the deadly September, 1999, apartment-building explosions in Russia for Novaya Gazeta when he was lethally poisoned, in 2003. Anna Politkovskaya, a journalist who was shot dead in 2006, had survived a poisoning attempt two years earlier. 
Russia consistently ranks in the top ten on the Global Impunity Index Rofl
maintained by the Committee to Protect Journalists—
it is one of the world’s most dangerous countries to be a journalist,
and those who kill journalists usually get away with murder.

Vladimir Putin is not happy with Pussy Riot


It's a scam.
I'm just not buying the official story about this.
Two hit men arrive together on the same plane, like you do.
Rather than go straight to Salisbury, get the job done and board the plane home, easily achievable within 24 hours, they spend a night in a guest house in London attracting attention by cavorting with a prostitute and smoking weed.
Four months later novichok is allegedly found in their flat, gets tested at nearby Porton Down yet when the cops go back for a second batch of samples they can't find any and assume the first swabs removed it all. Not the cleaners in that intervening four months though, nor any other guests, and apparently it hadn't degraded either.
The amount allegedly found was so small it couldn't be specifically identified beyond just being any old organophosphate - so it could have been bug spray. The OPCW were not called in to examine it.
Then they go on a recon visit to Salisbury : strange really considering the doorknob would have been there no matter how many times they went to look at it. I haven't checked but it's probably on Google Earth Streetview.
Then they return to kill the Skripals by smearing the doorknob by smearing the doorknob with novichok on a day when they would almost certainly have been wearing gloves, and go well out fo their way to dispose of the perfume bottle somewhere it would inevitably be found. The Skripals then come home, contact the poison and decide to go for a walk in the park where they are found, like you do on a freezing day when you have just been affected by an instantly-acting lethal nerve agent.
Incidentally, suspicion was aroused by the Russians claiming they couldn't handle the snow on the way to Stonehenge : it was in fact closed due to snow that day.
Weirdest thing of all is their ranks: one is a colonel and the other a doctor. Colonels don't get sent to do jobs like this, they do the sending. a doctor shouldn't have been there. A couple of lower ranking field agents maybe, but these guys sound more like a visit from the GRU personnel and pensions department.
Bellingcat published a photo of a medals board with Chepiga on it wearing his Hero of the Russian Federation : the photo is out of chronological order, has flash glare when none of the others do, and he has the medal pinned to his lapel like a button badge. What's more the jacket has no trimmings or shoulder boards, it looks more like a suit jacket.

Then there's the Amesbury victims, Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley. Rowley says he found the perfume bottle in a charity collection skip, which should surely have been emptied during the 3 months the bottle should have been in it. First he says they both sprayed it on themselves, then says he broke the bottle.
I find it telling that the police haven't charged the Russians with Dawn Sturgess' s death, nor have they amended the charges relating to the Salisbury attacks to show their 'real' names.

The OPCW took a second batch of samples from Amesbury yet never said why. Nor has it said why it withdrew it's oiriginal claim that about 100 grams of novichok had been applied to the doorknob : that sounds like at least as much as that bottle could have held, and it must have been a big doorknob. It never releases it's findings to other than involved governments, only intervenes when called in by governments and is mostly famous for pronouncing on Syrian / Russian chemical attacks at the request of the west.

I don't know why the Russians were here but suspect they came to meet Skripal not kill him. Why kill someone they had let go in a prisoner exchange, who they had only given 13 years jail anyway?
Skripal hadn't been doing much since, he had been touring Europe hanging around various intelligence agencies perhaps in hope of launching a career as a journalist or consultant.Perhaps he had accepted a pension-sized payoff from MI5 for one last big gig, luring the Russians over for a false flag assassination scam.
In recent years 14 Russian ex spies and oligarchs have died very suspicious deaths in the UK, each time being written off as natural causes or suicide. Maybe MI5 intervened to put a stop to this.

Y'all are going to love this : it happened during a Navy/ Marines security exercise based on the scenario of chemical weapons victims in Salisbury. Emergency services and the local hospital were involved too. You may have seen photos of a cop in ordinary uniform stood next to the doorknob, or other emergency services personnel standing around in normal uniform right next to guys in hazmat gear.
Yep, the old security exercise going live trick. All in Salisbury too: not only did Skripal live there so did his MI6 handler, Pablo Miller. So too would a lot of the staff of nearby Porton Down: the Russians were allegedly trying to kill somebody in an unofficial security state playground. There could even have been a Porton goon living next door.
The Skripals have disappeared despite a second alleged Russian attempt on them being highly implausible, and Rowley is now severely ill and had suspiciously little to say anyway, for somebody who could obviously benefit from a big payout from the press.
MI5 seem to have got aay with it, for now anyway.
I think the Russians said it best themselves, had we wanted them dead, they would be dead.
Bigfoot 73,
I am pleased that you took such effort to clarify an opposing position,
to the MI6 - British govt. slant.
The British version is definitely a variety of roadside pot holes,
but your response had the same problem.

In overview of your comments,
then it would be safe to say ... that you suspect that this is all an MI6 concoction,
and essentially British Deep State -- repetitive -- frame up of Putin and the Kremlin ,
and the two Russian agents,
are not guilty of the attempted assassination ?

That is entirely possible, with the past British record of assassination {Kelly, Princess Die ...}
I see the Russians and the Brits in current power as two sides of the same coin.

Heads you Live  Hi
Tails you Die Whip

And nobody really knows who did it or why  Nonono

Both sides spin the propaganda to win.

So ... the Brit Deep State MI6 ... selected, poisoned and sacrificed Skripal and his daughter,
to wratchet up an anti Putin global response,
and created the set up on two Russian agents who were being "tourists" ...?

that sounds extreme

no doubt ... for the Russians to have decided to liquidate Skripal,
then Skripal himself,
was up to old tricks,
and pressed some buttons in the Kremlin political infrastructure.

and you somewhat answer your own question here --

Quote:Why kill someone they had let go in a prisoner exchange, 
who they had only given 13 years jail anyway?

Perhaps he had accepted a pension-sized payoff from MI5 for one last big gig, 
luring the Russians over for a false flag assassination scam. 

or something like that ...
Or maybe Skripal ... was running a double con on the Brits and Russians in a new scam?
A quadruple agent in one old sad sack?

I still think the odds are on the Russians killing Skripal.

Quote:Colonels don't get sent to do jobs like this, they do the sending

The Colonel may have been there publicly partying {as you pointed out},
whilst overseeing the direction of the Novichok delivery by a local subordinate.

Quote:Then they return to kill the Skripals by smearing the doorknob with novichok,
on a day when they would almost certainly have been wearing gloves, 
and go well out of their way,
to dispose of the perfume bottle somewhere it would inevitably be found.

Gloves make no difference, ... 
gloves have to be taken off and inevitably a bare hand is used doing that.
or putting them away.

The perfume bottle Whip
is the single most lame piece of evidence the Brits have,
and definitely points to possible manufactured BS on their part.
It is so feeble as to be laughable.
It is so feeble sounding ... that even the Deep State Brits had to understand it was feeble,
which makes no sense for them to even try to put forward, 
Unless they just got lucky ...  Doh

If it wasn't the Deep State Brits that played out the attempted assassination of Skripal,
and it wasn't the order of Kremlin authority to do the same,
then who did it and why?

so I guess we can agree that it was either the Brits or the Russians ... lol

And we still don't even know who killed Berezovsky ... not a suicide  Naughty

As ever you make some good points Vianova. Perhaps the Russians were part of a larger team, but nobody has uncovered any other suspects. The colonel had been here before about a year prior to the attack, but nothing has been said about where he went or what he was doing. He, or at least the passport he used, had been all over the northern hemisphere , even China and Israel : was he killing people in all these countries? Any old goon can pull a trigger but someone with a colonel's authority might be more likely to be talking and doing deals.

I don't think anyone actually tried killing the Skripals, I think they were playing a part, faking it.Their phones had been off all day so there's no GPS to track their movements, they went to a restaurant for lunch then went home, poisoned themselves on the doorknob but somehow made it to a park bench on a freezing snowy day. Getting your hands covered with a lethal nerve toxin which kills in seconds then going for a walk in the park and ultimately surviving seems decidedly suspect.
Yes, the perfume bottle stinks . It must have beeen lying on top of whatever else was in the collection skip/dumpster in order for Rowley to reach it yet was supposed to have been thrown in it in early March. Either it should have been buried or the skip emptied by then. Why did Rowley change his story?
Personally I think he was paid to 'find' it but screwed up.
The recent deportation of four GRU men from Holland stinks too, of planted evidence.
The government is left facing questions about the Russians not being obvious hit men, the police not pursuing them and the silence of the Skripals. Nobody is asking those questions and I don't expect new developments any time soon.
As Watcher alluded to, if the Russians were so good at assasssinating people they could make it look like suicide or natural causes again and again, what went wrong this time? With nothing to stop them how come they goofed?

OK ... so you think the Deep State Brits set up a vast spy novel big money movie pantomine,
I suppose frame up the Russians and Putin?

Quote:I don't think anyone actually tried killing the Skripals, I think they were playing a part, faking it.

Quite the far reaching conspiracy with the very lengthy hospitalizations ... 
all the doctors, nurses, medical tests, journalists ...
No, there are too many variables to keep under control in that vast of a conspiratorial task.
They were poisoned.

Quote:Getting your hands covered with a lethal nerve toxin 
which kills in seconds then going for a walk in the park 
and ultimately surviving seems decidedly suspect.

I think that your embellishment goes beyond the facts.
You don't know that their "hands were covered with lethal toxin".
Exposure was likely quite limited, {you mentioned that they had gloves on},
and the Russian targeting of Skripal with novichok,
could not create collateral damage to the immediate public,
thus was probably used sparingly and in tightly located deposits.
And then they nearly died anyways with what exposure they did incur.
Litvinenko ingested Polonium and survived for over 3 weeks.

Quote:As Watcher alluded to, 
if the Russians were so good at assasssinating people they could make it look like suicide, 
or natural causes again and again, 
what went wrong this time? 

What went wrong? 
Not much really, just the standard repeat Russian villains identified by the Deep State Brits.
In the Litvinenko scenario,
identified suspect Lugovoy went on to a political position and power in Russia.
I don't doubt that the Colonel in this case has ample opportunity for something similar.

What went wrong?
Skripal didn't die, that's all.
Other than that,

not enough solid evidence Horsepoop  ... easy peasy Kremlin denial ... Dance2

The event is almost already buried in repetitive daily global chaos.

The Russians obviously did not try to make this look like a suicide Naughty
Even the coroner inquest report on Berezovsky would not distinguish between suicide and murder <---
You cannot bat 100% Nonono 
in covering up a global dragnet of political murders against your enemies.

Skripal probably was playing his own latest spy novel con game,
onto the Russian Underworld of Kremlin killers.
He pissed somebody off bad, and they decided to return his spy novel for a refund.

Quote:... and the silence of the Skripals

Skripal knows he is lucky to be alive.
Talking trash ... just brings on the garbage man for that last ride to the landfill. 
His daughter did give some interviews.

Exactly what happened to them in hospital could be obfuscated. They would have been in isolation, and the chemical warfare exercise could have meant other special measures and routines were operating. The staff could all have thought it must be someone else who was treating them, the only people who needed to have known would be the hospital chief administrator, some greasy pole climber who's cooperation could be bought.Then again it's worth bearing inmind that a senior consultant at the hospital said nobody was being treated for nerve agent poisoning there. the official story just leaves too many TheTheT

Not much poison? Delivered by such a haphazard method? Traceability made all the easier by it even having a Russian name? Liable to be just as dangerous to the user as it would be to the target? Highly
atypical for the Russians.

They were allegedly found on a park bench, but nobody has ever come forward to say they found them. Maybe they weren't even there.

To go off on a tangent from my original post, I just came across a Guardian report from 23rd March mentioning a suspicion that Yulia brought the novichok with her. Not seen that before, and only recently discovered she was accompanied on the flight by someone who got the next plane back.Perhaps the Russians had come to see her to get their novichok back?Doesn't explain Amesbury though.
Apologies for the errors above, bluetooth keyboards seem to start malfunctioning pretty quick. That should have read the official story just leaves too many questions.
Something else about Yulia: her fiance was connected to the security services, he worked for some private security firm run by his mother with government contracts. As soon as the poisonings occurred he broke off all contact with her, closed his social media accounts and has gone incognito. She hasn't mentioned him.
Did she bring it with her, for some reason dump it in the collection skip having accidentally poisoned herself and her father, then when the government got hold of it and started the diplomatic furore decided to keep her head down and play victim?

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