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Radiation found after spy's death
Danger has now spread to the soccer fans




Radioactive trail to soccer stadium
Minute quantities of polonium 210, the radioactive substance which was used to poison former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, have been found at Arsenal FC's Emirates stadium.
The radiation was found at the north London ground at "barely detectable levels", the Health Protection Agency (HPA) said.
An HPA spokeswoman stressed that there was no public health concern, adding that the levels picked up were lower than natural background activity.


The discovery came as the limitations on Scotland Yard's investigation into the Alexander Litvinenko poisoning became clear. Russia's chief prosecutor, Yuri Chaika, said it would not extradite any suspects to Britain.
Despite Tony Blair promising that no diplomatic barrier would stand in the way of the inquiry, Mr Chaika, Russia's prosecutor general, laid down the ground rules for the team of nine British officers in Moscow.
He made clear that Russian prosecutors would be the ones interviewing witnesses and said it was "impossible" for British police to arrest any Russian citizens, underlining that no-one would be extradited to the UK.
Any Russian citizens suspected of involvement would be tried in Russia, he said.
Mr Chaika also insisted that the deadly radioactive element used to poison the former spy could not have come from Russia. "It couldn't happen here," he said. "It is all sheer nonsense."
However, Mr Chaika did say that as part of their co-operation with British police, Russian prosecutors would seek to question Andrei Lugovoi, potentially a crucial witness in the inquiry.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2106780.html?menu=


http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,, ... html?f=rss
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Radioactive cat litter


http://www.slate.com/id/2120491/

(and he said he would protect US)




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That's pretty wild guest
from your link..

Quote:Last Friday, the Department of Homeland Security announced that the nation's busiest seaports will have enough radiation detectors to screen every cargo container that comes through. But congressional critics say expensive "Radiation Portal Monitors" can't tell the difference between highly enriched uranium and cat litter. Is cat litter really radioactive?

Guess as long as they've got us all focusing
on kitty litter and radiation detection equipment
Most of us will never have the time to
figure out that most of our ports
are owned and operated by China and the UAE..

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You too can be an Amateur Radiation Detector !
Check out the lint in your dryer !
http://www.blackcatsystems.com/science/radiation.html
&quot;The impure can become pure through the process of elimination, <br />but error can never be transformed into truth.&quot; <br /> Schwaller De Lubicz
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Quote:Guess as long as they've got us all focusing
on kitty litter and radiation detection equipment
Most of us will never have the time to
figure out that most of our ports
are owned and operated by China and the UAE..

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I know my comment didn't add much, but sometimes I feel the need to let people know when their wit has hit the mark!
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Your comments always add much
YOU ARE THE QUANTUM OBSERVER Hi
&quot;The impure can become pure through the process of elimination, <br />but error can never be transformed into truth.&quot; <br /> Schwaller De Lubicz
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You gotta love this

"...Sergio Rastrelli, Mr Scaramella’s lawyer,
told Italian television on Sunday that his client
would name Italians who had allegedly been KGB agents.

On Monday Mr Rastrelli said Mr Scaramella
did not want to do that. ..."

Rofl
Polonium makes bovine spongiform look like the sniffles
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Funny about Scaramella's name,
it is so Mafioso from the get go.


Scaramella in 2007
like Lunev in 2000
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http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/suitc ... -story.htm
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another one bites the dust .

Lugovoys partner.
who accompanied Lugovoy to meet Livinenko
in London the day before he got sick,
is dieing now in the hospital,
as reported by tyhe Russian govt news,
via CNN..

The big Q is
will Lugovoy also die,
and then there is Scaramella .....

another one bites the dust
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So it's solved....it was Scaramella in the sushi bar with the poison.
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In another development tonight, it was disclosed that all seven staff who were working at the Pine Bar of the Millennium Hotel - where Mr Litvinenko had a meeting on the day he fell ill - had tested positive for low levels of radiation.
Prof Pat Troop, chief executive of the Health Protection Agency, said there were no short-term risks, but there was a "very small" increased long-term risk of cancer.
Following the results, the HPA will offer urine tests to more than 200 other people who were in the bar on that day, November 1, which is when Mr Litvinenko was first taken ill.
It was claimed tonight that the Russian businessman Dmitry Kovtun, who met the former spy on the day he was allegedly poisoned in London, was critically ill.
A Russian news agency claimed Mr Kovtun had fallen into a coma immediately after being questioned by Russian investigators and Scotland Yard detectives.
"By the doctors' diagnosis, Kovtun's condition is critical," Interfax said.
Mr Kovtun is said to have met Mr Litvinenko at the Millennium Hotel in Grosvenor Square on November 1 together with his business associate Andrei Lugovoi, another key witness in the case.
Earlier today, Russian prosecutors released a statement saying that Kovtun had "developed an illness also connected with the radioactive nuclide (substance)."
Kovtun had not previously been reported to have fallen ill.
It was the latest dramatic twist in the Litvinenko investigation
However, a lawyer close to the Litvinenko case denied the report about Kovtun.
Andrei Romashov, a lawyer for Mr Lugovoi, said he had contacted Mr Kovtun's representatives after the report and they told him Kovtun's condition was "the same as it was when he met with prosecutors."
Earlier, close to 50 of Mr Litvinenko's closest family and friends ga

http://www.24dash.com/news/57/14071/index.htm
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Italian police prepare to raid the home and offices of Mario Scaramella, an Italian contact of poisoned former spy Alexander Litvinenko, in Naples, suspecting him of violating Italian waste management laws, the ANSA news agency said. Scaramella is in hospital in London after testing positive for a radiocative substance, but doctors have so far failed to detect any symptoms of the radiation poisoning that killed the former Russian spy Litvinenko. AFP
LONDON (AFP) - An Italian academic who met Russian ex spy Alexander Litvinenko just before he fell ill said he does not think he could have been poisoned at the sushi bar where they spoke, CNN reported Wednesday.
Mario Scaramella, who met the Kremlin critic in London on November 1, has since been found to have low levels of polonium 210, the radioactive substance linked to Litvinenko's death, in his body.
But Scaramella told CNN that he did not believe his contact was poisoned at the Itsu restaurant during their meeting, "simply because there were no other people, any strange situation."
"Alexander was always on alert," he said in an interview from his London hospital bed, cited by CNN online.
"And considering that I survived and I feel well, I don't think I was a target as well, it's important to underline that."
Scaramella has not shown any effects of radioactive poisoning and remains well, the Health Protection Agency has said.
He served with Litvinenko on an Italian parliamentary investigation into activity by the KGB, the Soviet security agency, in Italy.
In the interview, he restated that he was meeting Litvinenko to warn him that his life was in danger.
"I received several emails from another source he (Litvinenko) introduced to me some years before, saying that him and me were under the special attention of hostile people, so to take care," he said.
"The problem for me was that these emails were so full of details, so specific that they didn't seem genuine."
The pair were being targeted by people "not directly under control of Russian establishment but from Russia...generally retired people from the security service," he added.

http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/thu/dec7w23.htm
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Two part delivery system
nanoaerosol/laser <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/dunno.gif" alt="Dunno" title="dunno" />

Quote:Alpha particles emitted by polonium will damage organic tissue easily if polonium is ingested, inhaled, or absorbed (though they do not penetrate the epidermis and hence are not hazardous if the polonium is outside the body).

Polonium-210 is an alpha emitter that has a half-life of 138.376 days. A milligram of 210Po emits as many alpha particles as 5 grams of radium. A few curies (1 curie equals 37 gigabecquerels) of 210Po emit a blue glow which is caused by excitation of surrounding air. A single gram of 210Po generates 140 watts of power.[13] Because it emits many alpha particles, which are stopped within a very short distance in dense media and release their energy

'Spy hotel' workers test positive

Seven workers at a hotel where murdered ex-KGB spy Alexander Litvinenko held a meeting have tested positive for low levels of radioactive polonium-210. The Health Protection Agency is now asking anyone who was at the Millennium Hotel's Pine Bar between 31 October and 2 November to contact NHS Direct.

It stressed the risk to the general public was likely to be "very low".

All seven bar staff from the Pine Bar who were checked, tested positive for polonium-210.

The HPA said that as far as the workers were concerned there was "no health risk in the short term and in the long term the risk is judged to be very small on the basis of initial tests".

However, the concern is that they may be at a very small increased risk of cancer in the long term.

The HPA added: "All of them are assessed to have had intakes lower than the adult family member of Mr Litvinenko for whom tests also identified they had been exposed to polonium-210.

"Our first priority has been to speak with these staff members and agency experts have been explaining the results and answering any questions they may have."

It said the staff should carry on with their daily lives "as normal" and it was "extremely unlikely" that people around them were at any risk.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6218492.stm
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I can only take responsibilty
for the one above me...

nano nano



hrm
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Quote:Scaramella is in hospital in London after testing positive for a radiocative substance, but doctors have so far failed to detect any symptoms of the radiation poisoning that killed the former Russian spy Litvinenko.
There, you see? He's supposed to have been dead by now, but he's symptom-free. Probably got some on him in the sushi bar and washed it off right away. He's either been singing arias in the hospital or he was their Klown the whole time.
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If Kovtun is really going to die,
we will know soon.

At the very least,
Kovtun, Lugovoy, and Scaramella are slightly contaminated.
By what ?
exposure to Litvinenko ?
how ?
It doesn't go thru the skin.
From exposure to Litvinenko's breath ?
ha !
Must need some depleted uranium mouthwash...

If Scaramella doesn't die,
then all that stuff about him being contaminated with
5 times the lethal dose to die with,
is BS,
along with the premise that he was tested in Italy
shortly after the Litvinenko posioning as negative,
then later came up positive.

If Kovtun does not die ,
and the reports were premature,
then Lugovoy, Kovtun and Scaramella were contaminated
by exposure to Litvinenko,
like Litvinenko's wife and everyone else.

Unless these people die from direct poisoning,
the murder was confined to Litvinenko,
and or minimal contamination was applied
to the perpetrators,
as a misdirection ploy, which would be awfully dangerous,
and unlikely.

I still maintain that poisoning by food could not
create exposure enough to contaminate others,
unless the dosage was enormous,
and Litvinenko was a walking RDD ,
'but he would only emit alpha particles ...right or wrong ?.

I still think he was sprayed with an aerisol device,
possibly planted at a location he frequents,
and thus being sprayed he was more apt to contaminate slightly
others around him, and all the places he visited..

I don't know, just guessing.
Let's see who dies,
but the Italian investigation into Scaramella belies that
Italain authorities have questions as well
about Scaramella's role in this
Casino Moscow
spy extravaganza.

The Italians must think that Scaramella smuggled the Polonium
to Litvinenko
and maybe even to Berezovsky in other meetings ?

Has the news story of Litvinenko converting to Islam
been authenticated ?
This would have been played on more by the media if true ,
one would think.



**And why is Berezovsky so silent ?**
Hiding as far down the spider hole as he can get.
If Kovtun is dieing,
you can bet that Lugovoy is poisoned as well,
or
Lugovoy eliminated everyone,...

spin spin spin

I still smell a Scaramella rat.
Scaramella knew more than he is revealing.

Who showed up at the sushi bar first ?
How did Litvinenko travel there?

Too many questions,
and no answers.
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Alpha particles emitted by polonium will damage organic tissue
easily if polonium is ingested, inhaled, or absorbed
(though they do not penetrate the epidermis and hence
are not hazardous if the polonium is outside the body).


Quote:Bystander Effects and Alpha-Particle Induced Cancer

The paper of Zhou et al.2 describes studies on the bystander-mediated induction of gene and chromosomal mutations in a rodent cell line manipulated to carry a single human chromosome. For gene mutations, the passage of single alpha particles from a microbeam through the DNA-containing nuclei of 10% of the total cells in the culture dish resulted in a frequency of new mutations that was similar to that found when all cells were irradiated with single particles. Thus, the bystander effect appeared to be generating new mutations within the 90% of cells that had not received alpha particles. Similar rapidly expressing bystander effects were demonstrated for one form of chromosomal damage and elegant methods were used to show that the mutagenic effect in question was dependent upon the activity of inter-cellular junctions of communication.

On the basis of this effect and its possible contribution to cancer induction in body tissues via the induction of DNA damage, the authors question the assumed linearity of low dose carcinogenic response for alpha particles; this assumption is an important element in radiological protection.

For alpha radiation risk in the human population the bystander effect might therefore be of particular importance for lung cancer-associated exposure to alpha-emitting radon gas and its decay products. Published information on excess lung cancer in radon exposed uranium miners and certain householders receiving lower radon doses4,5 allow some initial comment on this proposition.

In brief, even in the most highly exposed uranium miners, each of the many target cells for lung cancer is believed to receive only 1–5 alpha intersections of the nucleus per year4; this number is much smaller in the case of domestic exposures to radon. On current knowledge, this low abundance of alpha-irradiated cells should allow the rapidly expressing bystander effect in question to be fully operational. Since the combined information on lung cancer excess in miners and householders forms the basis of current estimates of radon risk4,5, these estimates should therefore include any possible carcinogenic contribution from the bystander effect. For this reason, it is not obvious that these new cellular data have major implications for current assessment of radon risk. Furthermore, the combined information on lung cancer dose-response4,5 for radon shows no evidence of a significant departure from linearity which might be associated with a complex form of cellular response to alpha particles mediated by a bystander effect. This point is developed in more detail by others6.

Finally, in considering other tissues, it is relevant that bone cancer excess in radium exposed dial painters5 is associated with a similarly low abundance of bone cell nuclei directly intersected by an alpha particle – again any bystander effect on cancer induction in these cells would have been expressed.

In conclusion, the data of Zhou et al.2 provide an important insight into the potential complexity of the response of cultured cells to alpha particles. However, the implications for cancer risk in humans remain uncertain and further developments are, to a large degree, dependent upon the clear experimental demonstration of cancer-associated bystander effects in normal cells in tissue. For the present, risk estimates for radiation induced cancer should continue to be based principally on direct information from human studies.
http://www.hpa.org.uk/hpa/news/nrpb_arc ... t_7_01.htm


The Litvinenko Case: More On Polonium and Alpha Particles

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Posted by Derek

So, what actually happens, down at the molecular and cellular level, when a person is exposed to alpha radiation? If it’s coming from outside the body, not all that much. The outer layer of dead skin cells is enough to soak up most of the damage, and it’s not like alpha particles can make it that far through the air, anyway. This is good news for Londoners worried about exposure (I note that reports have at least three sites there showing traces of radioactivity). I strongly discourage anyone from standing around next to an alpha source, but there are a lot worse things that you can stand next to - a gamma or fast neutron source, for example, either of which will penetrate your tan and keep on going.

But inside the body, that’s a different story. Alexander Litvinenko was given polonium in his food or drink, and from there the stuff distributes fairly widely across many tissues. At lower radioactive doses, that pattern is probably a good thing. When you have a radionuclide that concentrates in a particular tissue, like iodine in the thyroid, a dose that would be bearable across the entire body can cause a lot of local damage when it piles up. At higher doses, though, the situation can flip around. People can survive with damaged thyroid glands, or after total bone marrow transplants or the like. But general tissue damage is much harder to deal with.

Polonium ends up concentrating in the kidneys, to the extent that it concentrates anywhere, and attempts have been made to minimize radiation damage there. But by then an awful lot of destruction has occurred elsewhere – the blood-forming tissues, the linings of the gastrointestinal tract and the blood vessels themselves, and others. Note that these are all fast-dividing cell populations.

Zooming in, the mechanisms for all that mayhem are complex, and they’re still not completely understood. The first thing you can imagine is the alpha particle smacking into something, which to a first approximation is exactly what happens. They don’t get far – less than 100 micrometers. But along the way they can bash into quite a few things, losing some energy each time, which shows up as flung-off electrons, various strengths of photons, and doubtless some good old kinetic bouncing around. Eventually, when the particle slows down enough, it drags off a couple of electrons in passing and settles down as a peaceful atom of helium. That leaves some positive charges to account for, though, since those electrons were otherwise employed before being press-ganged, and this ionization (along with that caused by those stray electrons along the way) is one of the major sources of cellular damage.

All this can take place either in the nucleus or out in the cytoplasm, with different effects. This sort of thing can damage the cell's outer membrane, for one thing, which can lead to trouble. In the nucleus, one of the more dramatic events is sudden double-strand DNA breakage. That's never a good thing, since the strands don't always get put back together correctly. A couple of years ago, a group from the Netherlands was able to come up with dramatic images of chromosome breakage along the tracks made by alpha particles in living cells.

Then there’s also the complication of the “bystander effect”. Untouched cells in the vicinity of one that has taken an ionizing radiation hit also show changes, which seem to be at least partly related to an inflammation response. This seems to happen mostly after damage to the nucleus.

http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/20 ... ticles.php
&quot;The impure can become pure through the process of elimination, <br />but error can never be transformed into truth.&quot; <br /> Schwaller De Lubicz
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skynews video

http://www.officialconfusion.com/shayleronsky.html
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Boy Excellent Video Guest <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cheers.gif" alt="Cheers" title="cheers" />

This was on mainstream TV in Britain amazing !
Interesting timing eh?
&quot;The impure can become pure through the process of elimination, <br />but error can never be transformed into truth.&quot; <br /> Schwaller De Lubicz
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he totally got off the subject
&quot;The checks and balances of democratic governments were invented because human beings themselves realized how unfit they were to govern themselves&quot;
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Yeah, but with everything else going on in this thiller. You just
have to look at the big picture. Just why would Britain allow
this guy to come on a maninstream network yesterday and
essentially lay out the fact that the USA was complicit in attacking
their own citizens via 9/11. You just have to wonder about the
timing.

Shoot he layed out the entire senario right down to the missing
plane at the Pentagon.
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Russian citizen, who had dinner with Litvinenko, is in coma
Read it in Russian

Russian citizen, Dmitry Kovtun, who gave evidence to investigators from Russia’s Prosecutor General’s Office and Scotland Yard on the case of Alexander Litvinenko’s poisoning, is in poor condition. Soon after giving evidence, Kovtun fell into coma, competent sources told reporters in Moscow. Earlier, Kovtun was tested positive for polonium 210. Russian Prosecutor General’s Office started criminal proceedings on the case.

As anonymous sources say, Kovtun’s gastrointestinal tract was affected, which means that someone tried to poison him, or he ate or drank something with what ex-FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned.


Meanwhile, seven employees of the Millennium Hotel in London visited by Litvinenko before his death were tested positive for polonium 210. As Western media report citing British Health Protection Agency, earlier trails of radioactivity were found at the hotel. Later experts pronounced all the rooms at the hotel safe for people’s health except for one bar, where Litvinenko had a meeting with Andrei Lugovoi on November 1.

The British party has refused yet to comment on the parallel criminal proceeding instated in Russia on Litvinenko’s case, RSN informs. It was announced that most experienced representatives of the Russian Prosecutor General’s Office are ready to fly to London. However, both UK diplomatic mission and Scotland Yard decline to comment on it.
Permanent news address: http://www.regnum.ru/english/751928.html

http://www.regnum.ru/english/751928.html








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Russian Spy illness spreads: report


December 9, 2006 - 7:14AM
A second Russian businessman who met murdered ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko on the day he fell ill is now sick from radiation poisoning, local media quoted medical sources as saying.
Andrei Lugovoy has damage to vital organs consistent with exposure to dangerous levels of radiation, Interfax news agency reported, the same condition that killed Kremlin critic Litvinenko in London on November 23.

Lugovoy's business partner, Dmitry Kovtun, is also in hospital and Mario Scaramella, an Italian contact of Litvinenko, has undergone treatment in London for the effects of contamination.
Litvinenko, who was buried in London on Thursday, blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for poisoning him, a charge the Kremlin denied. The case has revived memories of Cold War spying intrigues and strained London-Moscow relations.
Lugovoy was quoted by Itar-Tass news agency as saying in a telephone interview he was "alright".
"The doctors have listed my condition as stable. Today I spent the whole day undergoing necessary medical procedures," the agency quoted him as saying.
Interfax said its information on Lugovoy's condition came from his medical notes. "Disruption in the functioning of some organs affected by radiation nuclides has been found (in Lugovoy)," it quoted a source as saying.
"Lugovoy's condition is considerably better than that of Kovtun, but he also has symptoms of contamination."
There have been contradictory reports about Kovtun, who met Litvinenko in London along with Lugovoy. Some said he was in critical condition but a lawyer who was in touch with his representatives told Reuters those reports were wrong.
Health experts are preparing to check for radiation at the Russian Today television studio where Lugovoy gave an interview on November 24, a broadcasting source told Reuters.
Checks have already been made at two other locations where Logovoy has been in Russia - the Ekho Moskvy radio station and the British embassy. A small trace was found at the embassy.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Russia ... 84805.html
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What's this now?.....


Quote:Radiation found near Litvinenko contact's German flat
Sat Dec 9, 2006 7:41 AM IST


BERLIN (Reuters) - German police said on Saturday they had found traces of radiation in a Hamburg apartment block where Russian businessman Dmitry Kovtun, who met murdered ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko on the day he fell ill, kept a flat.
The traces of radiation were not found in Kovtun's apartment but in another residence in the same block, a spokesman for the Hamburg regional criminal investigation unit said.
Police did not find a radiation source during their search of the apartment block in the Ottensen district of the northern port city, but the traces could be a sign that a source of radiation had been there, the spokesman added.
Kremlin critic Litvinenko was killed in London by a lethal dose of polonium 210, a radioactive substance. British and Russian authorities have opened murder investigations. He died on Nov. 23 and was buried in London on Thursday.
The Hamburg apartment block was sealed off for further investigations. There were no arrests made in connection with the discovery of the radiation traces, the spokesman said.
Kovtun is in hospital in Moscow, though there have been contradictory reports about his health. Some said he was in critical condition but a lawyer who was in touch with his representatives told Reuters those reports were wrong................
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Hmmm...how long ...er...do you suppose that THE TRAIL will jump across the ocean?
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Random trivia

The double 0 in 007 means he has a license to kill.

The new James Bond movie is said to take James Bond
"back to his roots" in a film that would be similar to
From Russia with Love.

Spoiler warning:

James Bond, not yet a Double-0 agent, is on a mission to kill a British agent who has sold British secrets. Bond must make two kills to qualify for Double-0 status: first, the British agent's associate, in a brutal fistfight in a men's room, and then the traitorous agent. The killing of the associate in the men's room is part of the gunbarrel sequence that leads into the opening titles.

Bond travels to Madagascar in pursuit of an international bomb-maker, Mollaka. The two engage in a free running chase sequence that ends in the embassy building of Nambutu. Bond kills the bomb-maker and blows up part of the embassy in the process. Bond's actions are recorded on closed-circuit television and exposed on the world press, which causes M, his boss at MI6, to become enraged with him.

Le Chiffre, an unscrupulous banker who supports foreign terrorists, uses his prior knowledge of terrorist attacks to short sell stocks in companies that fall victim to attacks. Bond foils one such attempt to blow up an airplane, and as a result Le Chiffre loses over $100 million. To recoup this loss, he sets up a high-stakes Texas hold 'em poker tournament at Casino Royale in Montenegro. MI6 enters Bond in the tournament to bankrupt Le Chiffre; if he succeeds, it will deny Le Chiffre the funds to continue financing terrorism and force him to aid the British government in exchange for protection from his creditors. Bond meets up with Mathis, his contact in Montenegro, and Vesper Lynd, a government Treasury agent, who is assigned to look after Bond's handling of the $10 million buy-in.

During the game, Bond discovers the poker tell that Le Chiffre commits when he is bluffing. However, Bond is later betrayed when Le Chiffre misleads Bond by committing his tell when he has a strong hand, and Bond loses his entire initial stake. Vesper refuses to grant Bond the $5 million necessary to re-buy, so he decides to assassinate Le Chiffre, but American CIA agent Felix Leiter intervenes. Leiter, who is also undercover playing the game, feels that Bond can beat Le Chiffre and gives him the $5 million. In return, Bond agrees to let the CIA take custody of Le Chiffre instead of MI6.

There’s also much mention of a hidden organization through out the film.



There’s also a a film without Bond that fit’s the Litvenenko poisoning quite well

It’s called The Fourth Protocol…

Link to spoiler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourth_Protocol

by association,

The Fourth Protocol in the book The Protocols of Zion, the author states: “The truth of the matter is that our power is hidden. The visible Freemasons serve us as a cloak and [in effect] only act to hide [our power] and our goals. The Fourth Protocol also has to do with betraying it’s own agents.

http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/sib/4_05/bashar.htm

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Random trivia

Ian Fleming based James Bond on Dr. John Dee, the first British secret agent.


John Dee was one of these men who has come down to us, recognized today by revisionist historians and scientists as perhaps the greatest of all Renaissance men of the 16th Century. Dee's greatest material accomplishments in life came as a result of his scientific contributions in the field of mathematics at a time in the world when math was still considered to be Black Magic. He was also responsible for the major advances in navigation and the proposal of programs for English ocean voyages to discover new lands during the Elizabethan Age. It was Dee who dubbed the land of America as "Atlantis" in 1583 in a plan for colonization which first occured in 1620 at Plymouth following his death. He was perhaps as much an antequarian as he was a scientist. Antequarians utilized legends as references from oral traditions that carry and protect important truths for contemporary historical perspectives. Dee also had access to most government records during Queen Elizabeth's rule.

"He was Elizabethan England's great magus."1 He was Court Astrologer and confidant to the English Queen, Elizabeth I, and was well beloved by her as such. The Queen travelled regularly by horseback to visit Dr. Dee personally at his home estate, Mortlake. There he had an unusually large library collection of up to 4,000 manuscripts of some of the world's most significant classic writings of all time, before clergical laws were passed outlawing many of them. They were later destroyed by a fire at Mortlake while Dee was out of the country. Mortlake is also where he and Edward Kelly conducted the greatest documented experiments ever at the time with angel or "Spirit" communications. John Dee practiced Enochian Magick.

John Dee also changed time with his intorduction of the Gregorian Calendar.

"Give us our eleven days!" must be one of the most-quoted slogans of the eighteenth century, but also the least understood…”

http://www.hermetic.ch/cal_stud/jdee.html

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Random trivia

The seventh ray expresses itself in the mineral kingdom through the production of radiation,


and we shall find that increasingly these radiations (many of which still remain to be discovered) will be noted, their effects understood and their potencies grasped. One point remains as yet unrealized by science, and that is that these radiations are cyclic in their appearance; under the influence of the seventh ray it has been possible for man to discover and work with radium. Radium has always been present, but not always active in such a manner that we were able to detect it. It is under the influence of the incoming [370] seventh ray that its appearance has been made possible, and it is through this same influence that we shall discover new cosmic rays. They too are always present in our universe, but they use the substance of the incoming ray energy as the path along which they can travel to our planet and thus be revealed. It is many thousands of years since what are now studied as the Cosmic Rays (discovered by Millikan) played definitely upon our planet, and at that time the fifth ray was not active as it now is. Therefore scientific knowledge of their activity was not possible.

Other cosmic rays will play upon our earth as this seventh ray activity becomes increasingly active, and the result of their influence will be to facilitate the emergence of the new racial types, and above all else, to destroy the veil or web which separates the world of the seen and tangible from the world of the unseen and the intangible, the astral world. Just as there is a veil called "the etheric web" dividing off the various force centers in the human body, and protecting the head centers from the astral world, so there is a separating web between the world of physical life and the astral world. This will be destroyed, slowly and certainly, by the play of the cosmic rays upon our planet. The etheric web which is found between the centers in the spine, and which is found at the top of the head (protecting the head center), is destroyed in man's mechanism by the activity of certain forces found in that mysterious fire which we call the kundalini fire. The cosmic rays of which the modern scientist is aware constitute aspects of the planetary kundalini, and their effect will be the same in the body of the planetary Logos, the Earth, as it is in the human body; the etheric web between the physical and astral planes is in process of destruction, and it is of this event which the sensitives of the world and the spiritualists prophesy as an imminent happening. [371]

The new era (also called the New World Order and the New Millenium) is however upon its way, and nothing can prevent that which the stars decree and which the Hierarchy of guiding Minds consequently foresee. The new executives who will succeed the present dictators and powers will take over the control towards the year 1955, and they will be seventh ray aspirants and disciples in the majority of cases; their capacity towards integration and towards fusion along right lines will then rapidly bring about the needed international understanding.

The question emerges in your mind as to whether such a prophecy will indeed be fulfiled; and if unfulfiled, will not that fact militate against much that I have said and prove me unreliable? Let me answer this question by pointing out that those of us who foresee that which may and ought to be are nevertheless well aware that though the fulfilment of the prophecy is inevitable, yet the time factor may not work out as indicated. This will be because the distressed human mechanisms of those to whom the work is given will fail to react either correctly or at the right time.

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quite a sophisticted operation to implant Polonium
in so many victims foods,
as "anonymous sources" say that Kovtun has gastrointestinal damage.

So much for aerisol posoning.,
at this point..
This would mean that Litvinenko was indeed
a walking RDD , once contaminated.
And so would Lugovoy be contaminated,
as his wife and children supposedly also have tested positive with traces.

The assassins trail thus also left contamination everywhere ,
with the Hamburg report and
and other sites of contamination ?
so thus,
the killer-s , must have small levels of contamination in them as well...?
Let's see who survives.

And of course,
nothing on Scaramella.


"...It was announced that most experienced representatives
of the Russian Prosecutor General’s Office
are ready to fly to London...."

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Berezovsky's silence is deafening.
He must really be nervous right now.
I suppose you can test all your food for radioactivity .....
and your water......
then there is the air......

I still think a sophisticated delivery system
of poison was applied
Not just simple adulteration of poison to food.
That's just my take.
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Quote:MOSCOW, December 4 (RIA Novosti) - The only reactor in Russia able to produce a radioactive isotope found in the body of a former Russian secret service agent in the U.K. was shut down two years ago, a source in the Russian nuclear agency said Monday.
Russian defector Alexander Litvinenko, an outspoken critic of President Vladimir Putin's administration and a close associate of exiled oligarch Boris Berezovsky, died in a London hospital with symptoms of radioactive poisoning November 23.
British health officials said a lethal dose of polonium 210, a toxic uranium by-product, was found in his body.
"The reactor was shut down two years ago," the source at the Federal Agency for Nuclear Power said, without revealing the reactor's location.
But he said Russia has produced eight grams of polonium monthly from reserves that remain in stock following the reactor's shut-down.
"We have supplied it [polonium-210] to U.S. companies, and there were deliveries to British firms. The eight grams we have produced cannot have disappeared in Russia, but we do not keep track of the material after selling it," the source said.
Polonium supplies to the United Kingdom ended in 2001.
According to the latest report published by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), no cases of disappearance of radioactive materials have been registered in Russia in recent years.
The global nuclear watchdog has been keeping a database on illegal trafficking of radioactive materials since 1993.

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British Channel 4 Commissions Litvinenko Drama
Created: 09.12.2006 13:03 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 22:01 MSK
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Channel 4 has commissioned a television drama about the poisoning of the former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, BBC reports.
The programme will be written and directed by Peter Kosminsky, who also directed army drama Warriors and The Project, about the rise of New Labour. Kosminsky won two Batfa awards for The Government Inspector, his film about the death of scientist Dr David Kelly.


C4’s Liza Marshall said he had “the unique experience needed” to develop a drama “around this complex affair”.
“The extraordinary circumstances surrounding the death of Alexander Litvinenko are unprecedented in the UK and a focus of political and public attention,” said Marshall, commissioning editor of Channel 4 drama.
Kosminsky’s other dramas include Warriors and The Project


The drama will be made by Daybreak Pictures, an offshoot of production company Mentorn.
It is currently producing Kosminsky’s Britz, a two-part film described as “a revealing examination of British Muslim life lived under anti-terror legislation”.


Daybreak is also producing satires about prime minister Tony Blair and his deputy John Prescott for the commercial channel.
Alexander Litvinenko’s death of radiation poisoning on 23 November has been linked to the highly toxic isotope polonium-210.
Police have confirmed they are treating the death of the former KGB officer as murder.

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Quote:Channel 4 has commissioned a television drama about the poisoning of the former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, BBC reports.

Too bad Freddy Mercury and Queen aren't around any more. They could make a great comic opera soundtrack.
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The plot thickens or thins depending on your perspective lol

Radiation 'trace' at German homes
Dmitry Kovtun

Police in Germany say they have found indications of radiation in two properties apparently used by a contact of murdered spy Alexander Litvinenko. Dmitry Kovtun, who met the former KGB agent on the day he fell ill, is being treated in hospital in Russia. Police said traces of radiation were found at the Hamburg flat of his ex-wife and at her mother's home outside the city.

Officials in Moscow said Russian police may travel to Britain.

No radiation had been found at Mr Kovtun's own flat, which is in the same Hamburg apartment block, police said. But the traces of radiation which were discovered in his ex-wife's Hamburg flat and the home of Mr Kovtun's former mother-in-law in the town of Haselau, west of Hamburg, could be a sign that a source of radiation had been there, they said.

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Wonder when we'll hear about some Vatican players? They are conspicuously absent from this game.
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Quote:The plot thickens or thins depending on your perspective lol

Radiation 'trace' at German homes
Dmitry Kovtun

Police in Germany say they have found indications of radiation in two properties apparently used by a contact of murdered spy Alexander Litvinenko. Dmitry Kovtun, who met the former KGB agent on the day he fell ill, is being treated in hospital in Russia. Police said traces of radiation were found at the Hamburg flat of his ex-wife and at her mother's home outside the city.

Officials in Moscow said Russian police may travel to Britain.

No radiation had been found at Mr Kovtun's own flat, which is in the same Hamburg apartment block, police said. But the traces of radiation which were discovered in his ex-wife's Hamburg flat and the home of Mr Kovtun's former mother-in-law in the town of Haselau, west of Hamburg, could be a sign that a source of radiation had been there, they said.

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I guess the temptation was too great........ a little extra polonium 210 dropped off at his ex-wife's and ex-mother-in-law's to get even - perfect!
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Quote:Yard men on sick leave after tests
RADIATION AGONY OF COPS
By Ryan Sabey
TWO detective constables were face an agonising ordeal after dramatically testing positive for polonium-210.
Both the Scotland Yard officers have been working on the Alexander Litvinenko case for the last two weeks.
One was the Litvinenko's Family Liaison Officer. He spent time with Litvinenko, below, in hospital when he first became ill.
It was not known then that the former Russian agent had been poisoned with the radioactive material.
He has also been with Litvinenko's wife Marina — who has also tested positive — along with other relatives.
It is believed the second detective was contaminated when he carried several pieces of evidence from the Litvinenko home.
He was taking it to a police van to be sent for forensic testing.
The pair have been put on sick leave on full pay....

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God it's almost like the advent of AIDS.

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what a card trick lol
&quot;The impure can become pure through the process of elimination, <br />but error can never be transformed into truth.&quot; <br /> Schwaller De Lubicz
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It means that Litvinenko was poisoned with a large dose,
and was a walking RDD.,
from ingestion of Polonium ...?


That is a nifty new weapon....
without explosives....
Next step is suicide RDD human operatives,
infiltrating any public political scenario.

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I think this is way more that some crackers
and a potential new fearmongering device for the masses

I think this was a message

Kind of like leaving an eviscerated cat on the doorway
of someone who understands the true meaning of Santerilla
That act as well would be totally above the comprehension
on the level it was delivered except to someone who
so to speak knows that language..

There's way to many occut referenences in this attack
the only correlation I can come on that ties them up
all nicely (and fits oh so well with my London Bombski Theory)
is this is a retro look back on Zee Russian Revolution
thru a similar time gap portal called the Second World War..

It's all about Red and White just like before and
before and before on infinitum..

Dearest friend, do you not see
All that we perceive –
Only reflects and shadows forth
What our eyes cannot see.
Dearest friend, do you not hear
In the clamour of everyday life –
Only the unstrung echoing fall of
Jubilant harmonies.
– Vladimir Soloviev, 1892

The Great Russian Revolution of 1917, launched by Vladimir Lenin and his Bolshevic party, profoundly influenced the history of the twentieth century. The fall of the Russian Empire and its replacement by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics ushered in а new аgе in world politics. More than this, the Russian Revolution was the triumph of а dynamic revolutionary ideology that directly challenged Western capitalism. But what of the hidden origins of this Revolution? Did secret influences contribute to the victory of Lenin and the Bolshevics?

A Weltanschauung has conquered a state, and emanating from this state it will slowly shatter the entire world and bring about its collapse. Bolshevism, if unchecked, will change the world as completely as Christianity did. Three hundred years from now it will no longer be said that it is merely a question of organising production in a different way… If this movement continues to develop, Lenin, three hundred years from now, will be regarded not only as one of the revolutionaries of 1917, but as the founder of a new world doctrine, and he will be worshipped as much perhaps as Buddha.
— Adolf Hitler, 193218

In the wake of the total collapse of Imperial Russia and the devastation caused by the First World War, Lenin and the Bolshevics seized power in October 1917. A revolution that would not have been possible without the active support and participation of the Russian spiritual underground. The Bolshevics, in the opinion of one Russian scholar:

most probably would not have been able to take power or to consolidate it if the multimillion masses of Russian sectarians had not taken part in the total destruction brought about by the revolution, which acquired a mystical character for them. To them the state and the church were receptacles of all kinds of evil, and their destruction and debasement were regarded as a mystic duty, exactly as it was with the [medieval Gnostic sects of] Anabaptists, Bogomils, Cathars, and Taborites.19

Ground down by centuries of autocratic tsarist rule as well as the Orthodox Church, its mere appendage, the Russian people came to accept the Communism of Lenin. “Bolshevism is a Russian word,” wrote an anti-Communist Russian in 1919. “But not only a word. Because in that guise, in that form and in those manifestations which have crystallized in Russia… Bolshevism is a uniquely Russian phenomenon, with deep ties to the Russian soul.”20 Even the Nazi propaganda minister Dr. Goebbels, who built his political career fighting Communism, confessed that no tsar had ever understood the Russian people as deeply as Lenin, who gave them what they wanted most – land and freedom.
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