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fix toyota
im not really sure whats going on with all the anti toyota publicity, but i got the idea that it might be a conspiracy. why? the us govt becomes an owner of gm. what better way to boost sales than see to it that the competition gets bad publicity? i would like to hear the opinions of fellow forum users on this idea, but its really not necessary to post if you are so blindly patriotic that you fail to even admit that this might be possible, thanks, almon
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Something like 12 people are dead due to the defect, so I think not. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/nonono.gif" alt="Nonono" title="nonono" />
Don't believe anything they say. <br />And at the same time, <br />Don't believe that they say anything without a reason. <br />---Immanuel Kant
On the other hand, there's this.

By Mike Whitney

February 24, 2010 "Information Clearing House" -- Does anyone really believe that Toyota is being pilloried in the media for a few highway fatalities?

Nonsense. If Congress is so worried about innocent people getting killed, then why haven't they indicted US commander Stanley McChrystal for blowing up another 27 Afghan civilians on Sunday?

But this isn't about bloodshed and it's certainly not "safety regulations". It's about politics--bare-knuckle Machiavellian politics. An attack on Toyota is an attack on Japan's leading export. It is an act of war. Here's a excerpt from the New York Times which explains what is really going on:

"The Japanese economy has emerged from its worst recession since World War II, but is still reeling. Japan must do more to lift its economy out of deflation and boost long-term growth, S.&P. said.

“The outlook change reflects our view that the Japanese government’s diminishing economic policy flexibility may lead to a downgrade unless measures can be taken to stem fiscal and deflationary pressures,” S.&P. said. “The policies of the new Democratic Party of Japan government point to a slower pace of fiscal consolidation than we had previously expected.”

President Barack Obama is expected to address similar worries in the Untied States on Wednesday, with a call for a freeze in spending on many domestic programs, a move he hopes will quell perceptions that government spending is out of control. Fiscal problems in Greece and Ireland have also helped put the spotlight on the issue of national debt." ("Japan’s High Debt Prompts Credit Rating Warning", HIROKO TABUCHI AND BETTINA WASSENER, NY Times)

Japan's new liberal government is fighting deflation using the traditional methodology, by lowering interest rates and increasing fiscal stimulus. But that's not what Washington wants. Neoliberal policymakers and their buddies in the right-wing think tanks want "fiscal consolidation" which means harsh austerity measures that will deepen the recession, increase unemployment, and trigger a wave of defaults and bankruptcies. This is how western corporatists and bank tycoons keep their thumb on the developing world and thrust their economies into perennial crisis. It's the "shock doctrine" and it's been the IMF's modus operandi for over 20 years. Japan is being stuffed into a fiscal straight-jacket by supporters of the Washington consensus whose goal is to weaken government and accelerate the privatization of public assets and services.

The ratings agencies are being used in the same way as the media; to wage an economic/guerrilla war on Japan and force the administration to rethink their economic policies. (Note: There is no chance that Japan will default on its debt because it pays its debts in its own currency and has large foreign exchange reserves of over $1 trillion) The attacks on Toyota are a way of showing Tokyo what happens to countries that fail to obey Washington's orders.

Here's a clip from the New York Times which sums up the problem in a nutshell:

The government of Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama has "bolstered spending on social programs aimed at helping households......The powerful lower house of parliament approved a supplementary budget for the fiscal year that ends in March worth ¥7.2 trillion, or $80.3 billion, to help shore up the economy...And next year, government spending will grow further with a record trillion-dollar budget including ambitious welfare outlays. (New York Times)

Western elites will not tolerate economic policies which raise the standard of living for the average working slob. "Social programs" or "welfare outlays" are anathema to their trickle down, Voodoo capitalist orthodoxy. What they want is upward redistribution and class warfare. Regrettably, Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama has put himself at odds with US powerbrokers and is feeling the full measure of their wrath. His public approval ratings have plummeted to 37 percent and are headed downward still. The message is simple: Cross Washington and you're a goner.

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Don't believe anything they say. <br />And at the same time, <br />Don't believe that they say anything without a reason. <br />---Immanuel Kant
No only that Japan is trying to get rid of the US military bases in Japan, another pointy issue. But I disagree that Toyota is being targeted without a reason, they screwed themselve because of greed, they forgot a basic principle is better to earn a penny with a good product that let you sleep in peace than a dollar with a bad product that make you twist and twicht waiting for the moment when you get caugh up for it. They are paying for the price of their greed.
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Someone also pointed out they have all but 3 of their US factories in right-to-work (non-union) states. Texas is a right-to-work state and it means your employer can screw you six ways to Sunday and there isn't much you can do about it. They don't have a factory in Texas, just sayin.
Don't believe anything they say. <br />And at the same time, <br />Don't believe that they say anything without a reason. <br />---Immanuel Kant
We briefly thought about buying a Toyota Camry recently. Phewwwww.... We bought a Ford Fusion instead, and I love it. Comfy and a fun driving car with all the lil luxuries. We were driving down I84 and a Camry passed us at high speed. My wife looked at me and said, "Accelerator?" We both laughed. Imagine wondering when your car was going to decide to accelerate without your permission and then not be able to stop it. Japanese Roulette? A few years back, Audi 5000's had the same problem. Notice they don't sell Audi 5000's anymore?
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Ford Tops Sales in February as Recall Slows Toyota

DETROIT — Toyota Motor on Tuesday said its sales in the United States fell 9 percent in February, in contrast to big gains by its chief rivals, and it was expected to roll out aggressive new incentives aimed at luring customers scared off by its big recalls back into its showrooms.

Sales of the Toyota Camry midsize sedan, one of the primary models affected, were down 20 percent. But the overall decline for Toyota was smaller than many analysts had projected.

Meanwhile, shoppers seeking an alternative to Toyota helped the Ford Motor Company record a 43 percent increase in sales in February. That allowed Ford to surge ahead of General Motors to become the country’s top-selling automaker.

At least for one month, and not by much.

Ford outsold G.M. by 334 vehicles, which is roughly the number its Mercury brand sells each day. In 2009, G.M. outsold Ford by an average of nearly 33,000 vehicles every month.

How many of February’s sales were to people who might have otherwise bought a Toyota is unclear, said Ken Czubay, Ford’s vice president for United States marketing, sales and service.

“Frankly, our studies show that many of the Toyota buyers were still undecided as to what they were going to do,” Mr. Czubay said, indicating that Ford and other Toyota rivals might still have a chance to attract those shoppers.

G.M.’s sales rose 12 percent from the month a year ago but 32 percent for the four brands the company is keeping: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet and GMC. Nonetheless it slipped behind Ford, which reported a 54 percent increase in passenger car sales.

So far this year, Ford’s sales are up 34 percent, compared to 13 percent for G.M. Toyota’s sales are down 9 percent in 2010.

Separately, G.M. announced a shakeup in the management of its North American operations, the latest in a series of executive shuffles since Edward E. Whitacre Jr. became chief executive last year. Among the changes is the separation of the marketing and sales organizations.

G.M. appointed Steve Carlisle, who has been running G.M.’s operations in southeast Asia, as vice president for United States sales operations, under Mark Reuss, G.M’s North American president. Susan Docherty, previously vice president for both sales and marketing in the United States, will handle marketing alone.

Over all, automakers said industry sales were higher than a year ago, but some had difficulties taking full advantage of a downturn in Toyota sales, because winter storms last month kept consumers away from showrooms across much of the country. G.M. said its sales were down more than 20 percent in the snowy Northeast but up 71 percent in the West.

“It took our dealers a bit of time to get that snow off there and get customers back into the showrooms,” Ms. Docherty said on a conference call with analysts and reporters.

Still, G.M.’s chief market analyst, Michael C. DiGiovanni, said the company “got our fair share of Toyota sales,” without elaborating.

Ford said it planned to build 595,000 vehicles in the second quarter, 32 percent more than a year ago. G.M. said it was no longer publicly releasing production forecasts.

Toyota, whose executives are testifying Tuesday to a Senate panel examining the company’s recalls, is expected to announce new incentives aimed at drawing shoppers back to its dealerships. Toyota has recalled more than eight million vehicles — six million in the United States — to fix problems with the accelerator pedal or, in the case of its Prius and other hybrid cars, the braking system.

A month ago, Toyota had to temporarily stop selling and building eight models including the Camry and Corolla, which were the top-selling sedans in the country. Production has resumed, and dealers can again sell the affected models after repairing their pedal.

But some consumers have become hesitant to buy Toyotas as questions remain about whether the recall repairs will solve problems with unintended acceleration and about how quickly the company reacted to the problem. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is investigating the timeliness of Toyota’s recalls.

Meanwhile, other automakers are getting a rare opportunity to take a bite out of Toyota’s famously loyal customer base. G.M., Ford and Chrysler have been offering discounts of up to $1,000 to buyers who trade in a Toyota vehicle.

The Korean automaker Hyundai, which offered similar discounts when the recalls first were announced, also has gained sales as a result of Toyota’s woes, as has another Japanese company, Honda, whose executives have described overt attempts to poach Toyota customers as “predatory.”

Over all, sales were projected to be higher than a year ago, but analysts said extended periods of bad car-shopping weather along the East Coast and in the Midwest slowed the industry’s recent upward trend. G.M. issued a recall of its own on Monday, saying it needed to replace a motor in the power-steering systems of 1.3 million compact cars. The recall covers the 2005-10 Chevrolet Cobalt and 2007 -10 Pontiac G5, along with similar models sold in Canada and Mexico.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration opened an investigation of the cars’ power steering in January after receiving more than 1,100 complaints, including reports of 14 crashes and one injury. But the new recall, while large, is unlikely to hurt G.M. the way Toyota has been damaged by its recalls, in part because G.M. says the cars can be safely controlled and the problem has not resulted in any serious injuries or deaths.
Don't believe anything they say. <br />And at the same time, <br />Don't believe that they say anything without a reason. <br />---Immanuel Kant
I have a few friends who work at the Toyota plant here in Cambridge. I have not seen them in a while, but if I do I'll ask them their opinion or their version of the company's damage control line concerning the problem.
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Hell, if they used an outside supplier, maybe it was industrial sabotage by the makers of the accelerator assembly. It doesn't seem like any dirty tricks are off-limits or out of bounds these days.

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