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Can you trust who sits in the White House to tell the truth?
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The answer is NO!!!

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WASHINGTON – More than 30 years after his death, an Air Force general has been exonerated of charges that he violated presidential restrictions on aerial bombing during the Vietnam War and that he ordered the falsification of records to conceal the missions.

John D. Lavelle was forced to retire in April 1972 at the rank of major general — two stars below the rank he held as commander of air operations in Vietnam — after being relieved of duty for ordering unauthorized airstrikes against North Vietnamese military targets.

He maintained his innocence during congressional hearings held after his dismissal.

He died in 1979.

The story took a new twist in 2007 with the publication in Air Force Magazine of an article by a retired Air Force general, Aloysius Casey, and his son, Patrick Casey. They used declassified documents and transcripts of President Richard Nixon's Oval Office audio tapes to show that Nixon had secretly authorized more aggressive bombing in North Vietnam in February 1972.

The Caseys also wrote that such attacks had been authorized in late 1971 and early 1972 by top U.S. officers, including Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Army Gen. Creighton T. Abrams, the overall U.S. military commander in South Vietnam.

Lavelle's family petitioned the Air Force to correct his record and restore his rank. It said the decision in 1972 to relieve him of duty was based on "woefully incomplete" evidence.

The family's legal petition to the Air Force said the Nixon tapes show that "he was a 'scapegoat' and in fact had acted within the authority expressly granted to him by the president and communicated to him through classified communications between the chief of Pacific Command, the secretary of defense and others."

A copy of the petition and other legal documents in the case were obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday.

In 2008 the Air Force Board for the Correction of Military Records found no evidence that Lavelle caused, directly or indirectly, the falsification of records or that he was even aware of their existence.

The board also agreed with the family's assertion that the 1972 decision had been based on incomplete information and that the White House and others withheld important facts.

"After thoroughly reviewing the evidence of record and noting the applicant's contentions, we find sufficient evidence the retirement grade in which the member was nominated was the result of material error — an incomplete record," the board concluded.

It added: "It is clear the White House, the Department of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff all possessed evidence which, if released, would have exonerated him."

In a written statement Wednesday, the Air Force said its board found that once Lavelle learned about the falsified reports — which pertained to false claims of hostile fire by North Vietnamese forces — he took action to ensure that the practice was stopped.

The Air Force board recommended, in light of the new information, that Lavelle be reinstated to the rank of general. Defense Secretary Robert Gates endorsed the recommendation and President Barack Obama has asked the Senate to confirm Lavelle to the rank of general.

The Lavelle family issued a statement Wednesday praising the decision to exonerate the general.

"The president's nomination is a major milestone in the effort to publicly restore General Lavelle's outstanding record of military service, his honor and his good name," it said.

Lavelle's widow, Mary Jo Lavelle, 91, thanked all involved.

"Jack was a good man, a good husband, a good father and a good officer," she said. "I wish he was alive to hear this news."
Seek and ye shall find. JESUS
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#2
anyone who would trust any politician is insane.

I think my biggest disgust is saved for those who "hate their guy" but "love our guy" when an office switches parties.

Those fools actually think there is some difference in the two parties which, evidence shows clearly, agree on every important major issue affecting all of us.
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#3
YES
Nixon did
I was there
wasn't very cheery
but War is Hell
and He who makes the Most Rules
LOSES!!

Wook
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Go ahead invite Yoda to a Frog leg dinner
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I changed the title to be more clear about the point.
Seek and ye shall find. JESUS
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#5
Dated yourself Wook.

But I always suspected there wasn't a big gap between us.
So, the words Autumn and Fall are not to be capitalized?
They are in my world!

What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; and there is nothing new under the sun.
Is there a thing of which it is said, "See, this is new?"It has been already, in the ages before us. Ecc 1: 9-10
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I am about to sell every thing here
and go fishing.
Sweet.
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Quote:I am about to sell every thing here
and go fishing.
Sweet.

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Quote:I am about to sell every thing here
and go fishing.
Sweet.

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#9
Lying is a way of life for those people, and by "those people" I mean any who are in a position of power.

We are just the dumb <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/sheep.gif" alt="Sheep" title="sheep" /> who are programmed to be honest and pay our taxes while they lie every time they open their mouths and don't even file theirs (with no repercussions unless they piss the wrong person off). I play their game because I have to and I am ok with that - just don't take me for a fool who thinks they do the same.
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Will There Be Colored Folks in Heaven?

Dear Pasture,

Momma and me was waching Opra while she was showin' me her bioligy in homeskool class yestreday and she says them coloreds like Opra and the Obama will be serving us at a tea party in Heaven.

I ask'd pa about this at dinner and he says NO WAY! No coloreds in Heaven! No how, not ever! Him and momma got into it real bad and I got slap and send to bed. Pa belted me an teld me he gonna teach bioligy class for me hencefort.

So how bout it? Is they blacks in Heaven?

P.S. Pleaze no tellin ma or pa I sent you a qwestin! Pleaze no puttin me on the chuch kidz questins page on the internets. I already a burden 2 my folks. Pa'd be more happy i never be born to come tween they love and fine ancil cit'ation.

Tween us,

Billy-Lee Carver
Age 10
Freehold, Iowa Home School System

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Dear Billy-Lee,

Questions like yours renew my faith in the American Christian Home School System and the American family. I've called your mother and father and I'm going to personally come by to sign her Bible next week and shake your poppa's hand.

I'm sorry you got slapped and belted, but you got a lesson out of it - and it got you to thinking about important issues like this.

The truth is, Billy-Lee -- there are two schools of Baptist Theology - and they are both divided when it comes to the issue of "Negroes in Heaven."

One school teaches us that Negroes will have a role to play in Heaven. As the true descendents of the Biblical figure, Ham, the Lord will in fact bring all people of color in Heaven together into a glorified and pre-ordained eternity of servitude. Whether Jesus holds an auction and lets all the normal people in Heaven pick their own, or we simply have a few of them waiting for us when we get to our mansions in Glory, remains to be seen.

Don't let anyone ever tell you the curse of Ham (Genesis 9:21-27) has been lifted, Billy-Lee (Joshua 9:23). And curses based on disobedience - like that of Ham, are only lifted by God when the cursed folks become obedient (Exodus 20:5-6). And as you and I well know, all you have to do is turn on your TV to Fox News and see that's a long time a'comin'! A-men?

The other school of Theology teaches us that in order to be in the presence of God, we must be created in his image. God has colored folks call tree-swinging apes "Poppa" just to trick the evolutionists into thinking real humans didn't come from Adam and Eve. God loves to see scientists make fools of themselves! If it turns out that colored people evolved from primates that means they won't quite fit in Heaven now, will they? If God doesn't let puppy dogs into Heaven, True Christian Logic™ follows... why would He allow colored folks in? You understand?

I hope I've answered your question. When you grow up - you'll have to decide which position to hold. I lean toward the first one, since I'm still a leery of accepting ANY theory of evolution. They have lots of facts and data to support the theory, but there is still not enough faith based evidence in my opinion.

Your Baptist Friend and Anointed Pastor,

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Pastor Deacon Fred
more or less hudsons bay again
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Quote:Mayito:
Thursday, August 5th, 2010, 04:21 pm 


I changed the title to be more clear about the point.


How Trump’s wall would create jobs … in Mexico Holycowsmile

Mexico seems to be on the losing side of the US presidential election, since incoming President Donald Trump has threatened to wall off America’s southern neighbor and demand concessions in order to continue as a favored trading partner. 
But Trump’s policies could have unanticipated upsides for Mexico as well.


If Trump builds his beloved wall, for instance, it will require around 7 million cubic meters of concrete and 2.4 million tons of cement, according to investing firm Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. And guess who produces just those materials, in the vicinity of the Rio Grande? \

“Most of the cement producers in North America are Mexican,” says Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at forecasting firm IHS. “As an infrastructure program, [the wall] could boost the Mexican economy. Arrow   It could benefit Mexican companies.”




Of the 20 biggest cement producers in the world, Mexico’s Cemex is No. 7, according to trade magazine Global Cement. There are no American companies among the top 20. Trump has protectionist leanings and could decree that all cement poured into The Wall must be American. But guess what: Cemex has extensive US operations, with dozens of plants in the United States and more than 10,000 US employees.

Yuuuuuuuge opportunity for cement producers

Trump might find a way to exclude Cemex and other suppliers headquartered outside the United States from contracting on The Wall, but that would be depriving such firms’ American employees of work. Or, not. If all the sourcing for The Wall went to firms with an American HQ, then those companies might be unable to fill orders for other clients–leaving companies like Cemex to fill the gap. If global demand for anything goes up, it usually benefits most sellers, since firms are loath to add costly capacity when a bump in demand is temporary. Instead, they ramp up production as much as possible at facilities already online, even if it allows competitors to grab part of the pie.

The Bernstein analysis estimates Trump’s enhancements to border security (a wall already exists on portions of the 1,989-mile border with Mexico) could cost as much as $25 billion. Concrete, made of cement, would be the cheapest likely material. The huge project could boost cement demand, currently growing around 4% per year, by a full percentage point once construction gets underway. That’s a big jump for a mature industry in a slow-growing global economy. And since cement is costly to ship, it would make sense to source it as close to the border as possible.

Cemex has many facilities in the region that fit the profile—on both sides of the border–as do smaller American producers such as CalPortland and Alamo Cement Company. “As ludicrous as the Trump Wall project sounds (at least to us),” Bernstein wrote in its July report, “it represents a huge opportunity for those companies.”

Mexico could benefit from Trump’s punitive impulses in at least one other way. The country’s currency, the peso hit record lows after Trump’s win, on the expectation that money could flow out of Mexico if Trump’s new policies harm its ability to export. Yet a falling peso could actually boost Mexico’s economy, since it makes Mexican exports to other countries cheaper. The dollar strengthened after Trump’s win, by contrast, which makes American exports more expensive.

When a currency plunges because of some external shock, as just happened in Mexico, that’s not necessarily a net gain, since the shock itself could harm the economy more than a cheaper peso helps. But if the peso were to stabilize at a lower level, Mexico would benefit. “The gradual depreciation doesn’t have to be problematic,” says Behravesh. “A longer-run depreciation of the peso would be good for exports.”
That may not help, of course, if Mexico finds the United States—its biggest trading partner, by far—closed for business. But that would harm many US companies as well, and throw supply chains for the auto sector and other industries into turmoil. 


Quote:Can you trust who sits in the White House to tell the truth?

Trade is complicated, 
and Trump seems bound to discover that the old adage about the devilish details istruer than ever.  LilD


Quote:The answer is YES!!!
Lock Her Up!!!
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(08-05-2010, 04:17 PM)Fsbirdhouse Wrote: Dated yourself Wook.

But I always suspected there wasn't a big gap between us.
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