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Chemtrails..hmm
#1
I awoke today in bright sunny Holland , to multiple chemtrails, over my house, grid-locked, almost like a "cage" had been placed over my very existance. Though, this is nothing new for me, i thought id throw out there the Q about them.

Some seemed to stay for quite a while, while others disspated over the span of 15 minutes.

I read up on some of what is going on over my house and community.. and what one fella (a conspiracy fella) had to say about it.

Whether there be truth in this statement has me boggled a bit as im very ignorant as to what Chemtrails are really for. Though, ive seen them alot lately, and even growing up in Canada, brings back many memmories.

This is taken from a fella over at Rense.com. even if there is any relevance msp* what so ever.. then should there be cause for alarm?

If anyone has any added info on Chemtrails and what is raining down on me, (us).. pls feel free to add an opinion.

Ps. I would have taken a picture to add here, but i had no batteries in my Sony Cybershot. Bricks
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#2
If this is the case then awareness is even more important. We must become acutely aware of what we're doing and why. If we know then we can fight these influences.
Don't believe anything they say. <br />And at the same time, <br />Don't believe that they say anything without a reason. <br />---Immanuel Kant
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#3
Quote:If this is the case then awareness is even more important. We must become acutely aware of what we're doing and why. If we know then we can fight these influences.

Indeed...this is yet another reason why they want to ban all over the counter vitamins...so we won't be able to stay healthy and will depend on them for our dubious "health" The Stalinozionist are here to destroy, destroy and destroy and a curse on their goDD baphometali adonaitan ba'elzebub!!!
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#4
Long article, see photos

Widespread 'Twilight Zone' Detected Around Clouds

05.03.07

There seems to be something new under the sun -- in the sky, specifically -- that could complicate scientists' efforts to get a fix on how much the world will warm in the future. Greenhouse gases are not the only things in the air that influence the temperature of our atmosphere. Clouds and small airborne particles called aerosols also play an important and complicated role. And now a new ingredient has been discovered: an extensive and previously unseen “twilight zone” of particles that represents a gradual transition from cloud droplets to dry particles....

NASA
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#5
"We found that the region affected by this cloud field 'twilight zone' extends to tens of kilometers beyond the identified cloud edge," said Koren. "This suggests that 30 to 60 percent of the atmosphere previously labeled as 'cloud-free' is actually affected by cloud-aerosol processes that reflect solar energy back into space."

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/new ... 7/twilight
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#6
Aerosol Asymmetry:
Core Tracks & Pulse Observations
Clifford E Carnicom
Santa Fe, NM
May 14 2007

A significant set of observations has taken place. On Mother's Day and the day following of 2007, another major aerosol operation was conducted over the skies of the Santa Fe, New Mexico region. A more detailed visual examination of some of these emissions has been made; mechanical, artificial and systematic introduction of the aerosols appears evident.
more, much more, at link

http://www.carnicom.com/corepulse.htm
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#7
sky typing over NYC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ago_kz0F ... ed&search=
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#8
New weatherwars link

http://www.weatherwars.info/
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#9
2 WW Podcasts

Geo-engineering the Climate

http://www.weatherwars.info/
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#10
they were doing X chemtrail sprays here last week. Beautiful weather and skies turned murky and it got noticably colder then too.

A friend in CO said she noticed that grid or 'cage' type spraying in her area last week. Like they amped up the quantity of spraying last week. hmmm


here's Andy and Steve gifting orgone for the chemtrails and the insidious towers in Southern California

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y37sVMDw-R8
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#11
Hey Gard! Thx for the reply.
I found a fairly recent pic of when i was in Holland. This the "cage" effect u were talkin about?
This photo makes me sick to my stomach. To all the nay sayers out there.. define this for me..

[Image: Daysb4leavinHollandJune20th2007022.jpg]

O no, those arnt chem trails.. there just lost planes, flyin in circles..
ROFL...
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#12
They were doing big Xs over my county for 2/3 daze last week-but not grids like that.

No telling what kinds of poisons are hurting us drifting out of those fake formations they make.

I had a metallic taste in my mouth for a week.
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#13
This is the Chem trails, about 2 hrs later, when im lookin left from the origial picture.

wow is all i can say.
Sad to think, ppl go on there lives thinking this is ordinary cloud cover.

[Image: Daysb4leavinHollandJune20th2007023.jpg]

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#14
Quote:Hey Gard! Thx for the reply.
I found a fairly recent pic of when i was in Holland. This the "cage" effect u were talkin about?
This photo makes me sick to my stomach. To all the nay sayers out there.. define this for me..

[Image: Daysb4leavinHollandJune20th2007022.jpg]

O no, those arnt chem trails.. there just lost planes, flyin in circles..
ROFL...
Rofl Yak <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/yak.gif" alt="Yak" title="Yak" />

Almost a daily occurence here in PA. Just like your picture.

That metallic taste in the mouth, Gard--

YEAH.
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#15
The Shift - 102
Posted by Scott Stevens on October 17, 2007

Scott Stevens and Barb Slusser discuss the chemtrail phenomena and the long running use of EM energies to manipulate the weather and the planet’s climates systems.

http://www.scottstevens.org/
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#16
We were heavily sprayed the past 2 days - big criss-cross X's all over the sky.

They have been spraying before Bush was elected - I was reading about them on spiritweb.org back in 1996. The Internet was a very small place back then and spiritweb was one of the few woo-woo places.

I had a friend at the time complain that her sinuses always got worse after a northern cold front. Several years later I saw something on Chemtrails that said the spraying was always heavier after a cold front had moved through and the skies were clear and blue. I didn't make the connection between my friend's sinus problems and the spraying after a cold front right away, but I think they are connected.

I was kinda surprised to see the heavy spraying this past week because it has been so long since we were sprayed. I was hoping they had run out of funding or had given up on the program but that is not the case.
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#17
rense.com

What Chemtrails Really Are
By Carolyn Williams Palit
11-9-7

"The United States does not torture." --President George W. Bush

We are dealing with Star Wars. It involves the combination of chemtrails for creating an atmosphere that will support electromagnetic waves, ground-based, electromagnetic field oscillators called gyrotrons, and ionospheric heaters. Particulates make directed energy weapons work better. It has to do with "steady state" and particle density for plasma beam propagation.

They spray barium powders and let it photo-ionize from the ultraviolet light of the sun. Then, they make an aluminum-plasma generated by "zapping" the metal cations that are in the spray with either electromagnetics from HAARP, the gyrotron system on the ground [Ground Wave Emergency Network], or space-based lasers. The barium makes the aluminum-plasma more particulate dense. This means they can make a denser plasma than they normally could from just ionizing the atmosphere or the air.

More density [more particles] means that these particles which are colliding into each other will become more charged because there are more of them present to collide. What are they ultimately trying to do up there -- is create charged-particle, plasma beam weapons.
Chemtrails are the medium - GWEN pulse radars, the various HAARPs, and space-based lasers are the method, or more simply:

Chemtrails are the medium -- directed energy is the method.

Spray and Zap.

This system appears to be in Russia, Canada, the United States, and all of Europe. Exotic weapons can be mobile, stationary, land-based, aerial, or satellite.

It is an offensive and defensive system against EM attacks and missiles. It uses ionospheric particle shells as defense mechanisms [like a bug-zapper shell]* against missiles and EM attacks. That means they spray and then pump up the spray with electromagnetics. When these shells are created using the oscillating, electromagnetic, gyrotron stations, it "excludes" and displaces the background magnetic field. These shells can be layered one above another in a canopy fashion for extra protection from missiles. The chemtrail sprays have various elements in them like carbon which can used to absorb microwaves. Some of these sprays have metal flakes in them that make aerial craft invisible to radar. Spoofer sprays. Sprays like these can be used to create colorful, magnetized plasmas to cloak fighter jets.

There are satellite weapons involved. Activists are using meters and are getting readings of microwaves, x-rays, and some other kind of emission that they are not sure of, maybe a low-intensity laser.

They are also photographing gas plasma generation due to the heating of chemtrails by electromagnetics. The technical names for vertical and horizontal plasma columns are columnar focal lenses and horizontal drift plasma antennas. Various size of gas plasma orbs are associated with this technology. These orbs can be used as transmitters and receivers because they have great, refractory and optical properties. They also are capable of transmitting digital or analog sound. Barium, in fact, is very refractive -- more refractive than glass.

What does that mean? Someone or someones are very involved in unconstitutional, domestic spying and the entrained plasma orbs carried on electromagnetic beams can be used for mind control programming. The satellites can be programmed to track and monitor various frequencies on different parts of your body. These electromagnetic beams carrying the gas plasma orbs stick due magnetic polarity and frequency mapping and tracking to people's eyes, ears, temples, and private parts. A beam with entrained orbs carries pictures in each orb just like the different frames in a movie. It is a particle beam that is also a frequency weapon.

The satellites download holographic mind control movies, pictures, sounds, and sensations to people through this technology. The Air Force has stated in "Air Force 2025" that their goal is to develop virtual and augmented reality mind control. Depending on the how the computer is programmed or depending on the mood or intent of the person interfacing with the technology, you can be probed, bothered, gaslighted, frightened, manipulated, electronically raped, or tortured. It scans your brain frequencies and deciphers your thoughts. The satellites track you by mapping your bioenergetic signature [body biometrics] and constantly scanning an area to find you.

We are the lab rats for this technology and something is very wrong in the military or intelligence branches somewhere. Because developmental projects in government and military are often so compartmentalized, I suppose someone could be using and developing this technology secretly and without authorization. Then again, behavioral and mind control programs were an authorized policy under MKULTRA. Our country has a history of experimenting on its citizens. We are talking about satellite charged-particle frequency weapons attacking a person 24 hours a day. Psychotronic weapons are considered weapons of mass destruction by the U.N.

"HAARPs" can create earthquakes and can also x-ray the earth to find underground military bases, gold, or oil reserves. These ionospheric heaters can also operate as an over-the-horizon or under-the-ocean communications system. This system can control the weather or create disasters. Taken together with the aurora keyhole through-your-roof satellite surveillance system, Echelon electronic computer/phone sweeps, plasma-cloaked DOD Drug War helicopters and stealths, implants, and cameras on the street, it constitutes one, big global and space control grid.

These weapons involve beams. Two beams overlapped will couple into a particle-ion beam that will bounce off of a remote target and send a holographic image back to the satellite for remote spying operations. When you cross two strong beams, you can supposedly* create scalar energies. These energies can be used as untraceable weapons for nuclear size explosions or for defense. These crossed-energies can be used to cause a person's physical electrical system to fail or with a lower frequency, administer a kind of remote electro-shock. Visualize touching a positive and negative electric cable to each other on top of your head. Scalar energies can be utilized in hand-held military guns and on tanks. They can dud-out electronics or cause large, electrical blackouts. Scalar energies are practically impossible to shield against. You need lead, ceramics, and a deep underground facility to not be affected by these weapons. Or, you need to be up and above the field of battle.

People who are working on these issues hear tones and hums. If you hear persistent tones and static; have body vibrations, burning sensations, "bangs" to the head, neurological damage, or immune system damage; are hearing electronic voices or hearing the sound of a plasma; suffering from pains deep in your organs or constant headaches; or experiencing other anomalous activity then you may be being targeted by directed energy, mind control weapons. These weapons could be on helicopters, jets, stealth fighters, or on satellites. Directed energy beams and electromagnetic waves can be sent to you via hand-held devices or piggy-backed in on cell phone and satellite towers.

Is it possible that someone(s) are very afraid of coming famines and riots due to the ongoing, man-induced failure of the ecological system, and they are saturating the earth with chemtrails for large- scale, gas plasma mind control? Is this the last grasp for the world's resources? Or, are they just control freaks and money mongers? Someone would like to get to that oil under the melting [due to chemtrail-trapped EM heat] Artic. And, I guess the Third World is not a part of this system. I don't think that the developed nations are going to let them in on this either.

Any country that joins this NATO system will become mind-controlled and diseased due to the associated, intense, oscillating, electromagnetic fields, electromagnetic soup, and the poisonous, toxic chemtrails. Our DNA will break. We risk the earth's spin and tilt becoming messed up due to mucking around with the magnetic fields through this military technology. Maybe, it is already messed up.

It constitutes U.S. global domination via NATO and the erosion of civil rights. According to Charlotte Iserbyt and Al Martin, there are ex-KGB and ex-STASI advising our new Office of Total Information Awareness. They are the ones creating our new internal passports [national ID]. And under "The Treaty on Open Skies," we have overflights by Russian and German military. Who exactly is flying those plasma-cloaked craft that are seen all over this country and mistaken for UFOs by people who do not know about this aerial deception technology? Obviously, we have another "Project Paperclip" in the making. We can add the new thugs to the 2,000 Iraqi brought into country by Daddy Bush who are now living in Nebraska.

The elitist corporate government is going to hold the rest of us hostage with directed energy weapons in space, if the Policy for a New American Century group - PNAC - Bush and cronie think tank has their way, along with directed energy attacks against any country or citizen that they decide they do not like. These weapons can create climate war, weather war, mind war, cyber war, disease war, disaster war, and undetectable war. Taken together they can create economic war.

If this system is not stopped, it will kill billions due to aluminum and barium poisoning. It will kill billions due to crop failures and world-wide famine. It will cause heart attacks, strokes, and cancers. It will cause stillbirths, miscarriages, and infertility. The chemtrail sprays often have fungi, bacteria, viruses, dessicated red blood cells, crystalline substances, carbon, metal cations, lithium, other chemicals, heavy metals, and God knows what - probably smart dust, or nanocrap. Years of biowarfare testing on the American public is no big secret anymore. Spraying germs in the sky where they mutate due to the ultra-violet light -- brillant plan, my man. Are we acceptable losses or is this by design?

I know that many of the major players have big investments in pharmaceutical companies, GM seeds [seeds that can grow in an electromagnetic soup], weapons and directed energy development contracts, oil contracts, genetic research, and mind control research. Some of these people have had a familial history of financial and policy support for population control, eugenics, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, Pinochet, Hussein, and various other dictators. Some of the major players were the masterminds of the death squads in Central and South America. They stand to make a big profit on our death and disease. Just take a look at Rumsfield and Tamiflu.

I assume that they know the dangers of this system and that they take care to stay in their shielded, air-filtered offices, homes, bases, and cars. I assume they take chelating substances to remove the barium and aluminum from their bodies and minds. If not, then they really do not understand the far-ranging implications of this destructive system. Congress may not understand just what a terrible weapons system and control grid they are funding.

As I understand it, Tesla towers attached to deep-earth, free-energy taps are to be created over the 10-12 magnetic poles and the GWEN system phased-out. Has this already been done? This should allow total control of the earth through giant, Tesla death ray-guns. This natural, electromagnetic earth was not meant to be an un-natural dynamo to power man's weapons or his utility companies.

Over-unity systems [Tesla devices]* are as of yet, another unexplored and probably not understood man-made energy. We should be very suspect of free energy. As we can see, the forms of man-made energy that have been created and used in the past have not been good for this planet. Maybe it is time to reconsider the options available to us through the development of crops for fuel, wind, solar, and water power. We need world-wide, different, more holistic, renewable, energy programs.

Is there any good news? Yes. There has been tons of particulate dumping through the spray operations for 8 years over the Americas, Europe, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, and from what I can find out, over Russia. And, what goes around blows around, right? So, these substances are probably actually global. It sure makes a ton of sense to spray poisonous elements in 24 NATO countries and let the substances be carried around the earth on the jet streams to poison yourself, your enemies, and all neutral and non-combatent countries. Talk about making more enemies.

The water, air, and soil of all of these countries is so saturated with metal cations that these weapons freaks should be able to zap and mind f--k each other quite well now and as often as they wish. Once they have clobbered each other with light-saber beams for a few years and razed and scorched sections of the earth, they may start to realize that this foreign policy will lead to a defective human race and a rotten economy.

Do you think they will have knocked some sense into each other by then and will decide that non-proliferation and arms reduction is the more civilized and mature direction to take in world affairs? I doubt it, cause only idiots would have developed horrific, planet-killer weapons like these. But, I'll bet the rest of the planet will finally rise up and tell these juvenile delinquents to quit playing with those rayguns right this second.

After further thought on Bearden + -- a big over-unity and free energy proponent of Tesla technology that makes energy off of boiling the ionosphere or stealing electricity from the mis-named "vacumn" called Life, I have decided that Bearden is telling us some, if not most, of the truth. Same for Eastlund.
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#18
Ty Gard for the clarification.
That p.o.v. does not surprise me at all.
Living in a fkin cage like lab rats, while the gov. poisons us, bleeds us, and monitors our every move.
Of course when you bring this kind of attn, to the mainstream media, you will be labeled a right wing nut or a commie who dont love his country, or some Fking koot who's trying to blame his miseries of life on someone else.
Disgusting to say the least. I'll be posting more pics when i can catch them on a good day.
Thx for the insight.
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#19
What I have never figured out is how do they protect their own from the effects of the Chemtrails? It falls on everybody, doesn't it?
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#20
Case in point: George Bush the Sr. lives here and was in town the past few days when they were spraying heavily. He made an appearance at the Texans practice on Friday and was at the game on Sunday.

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#21
Case in point: they're borgs. not humans. it's a small world after all... get it?
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Quote:Case in point: George Bush the Sr. lives here and was in town the past few days when they were spraying heavily. He made an appearance at the Texans practice on Friday and was at the game on Sunday.

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Much like ufo's - i believe imo, that that info is on a need to know basis.
I highly doubt even the upper lvls of govn. even know, and if they do know, what would they do OR could do about it.

"We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Nov. 21, 1963.
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#23
Youtube --Exposee in Germany:

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Quote:Youtube --Exposee in Germany:

Youtube

Hmm says that video is no longer available.
To bad, i wanted to see this.

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#25
Try this one:
http://www.youtube.com/v/MVc9GX5K_As
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#26
Quote:Try this one:
http://www.youtube.com/v/MVc9GX5K_As

Ty Sj, that was awesome.
Hope this gets more awareness.
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#27
Even at this terrible time for the good students gunned down by a coward at Niu, planes are up in the skies sprayin Chemtrails, sad.
I found this just this morning..

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#28
Pentagram in the sky?
someone's tryin to be funny or mere cowinkidink?
[Image: Chemtrailstarpattern.jpg]

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#29
THAT'S the same thing I witnessed this morning too Gforce!!! they must have laid down 15/20 lines, formed an 'A' pattern and much crisscrossing too. It was cold and clear and now it is all murky-all throughout I was working but thought I should get the camera and capture it all. Good presentation up in the sky.

Also my nose started doing a post nasal drip thing. Don't know if that is psychosomatic or not but I don't think so.

sad.
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Quote:THAT'S the same thing I witnessed this morning too Gforce!!! they must have laid down 15/20 lines, formed an 'A' pattern and much crisscrossing too. It was cold and clear and now it is all murky-all throughout I was working but thought I should get the camera and capture it all. Good presentation up in the sky.

Also my nose started doing a post nasal drip thing. Don't know if that is psychosomatic or not but I don't think so.

sad.

Heya Gard!
Yea id love to see a snap of what you saw. Or a vid clip.. either or.
Not sure if its a cowinkidink either, but my roommate and my noses have been having a nasal drip the last while. Usually get it bad in the morning. I would have blamed it on my allergies, but spring is long over.. (thats when its the worse)..
Also, its been raining here recently, i think all the "fallout" if you want to call it from the sky or whatever is in there.. is hiting us pretty hard.

I read somewhere.. that (one theory).. the Govt. is spraying some type of ionized particle up in the air, "to help the earth, preserve it from global warming"...somehow, the particles reflect the suns deadly rays - not sure if that is at all possible, considering how fast the icebergs up North are melting at an ever increasing rate every year.

Idk.. just a thought. If you ever get a pic Gard, id love to see it.

Thx! Gforce
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#31
Oh yeah, I am new and haven't read all of the posts. But I do know for sure that organite will disperse the chemtrails and bring back healthy skies and make it harder for the CTs to "stick around".
If you know about organite That is great and a fantastic "natural miracle". If you don't then check out www.ethericwarriors.com.
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Welcome, Scott, nice to meet ya and all. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/hi.gif" alt="Hi" title="hi" />
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The resurection of my old thread, two recent photos, taken right over my condo.
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