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We Never Forgot About Mars
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/...d277bc5be7
This Could Be The Real Reason Earth Doesn't Look Like Mars: Life, Oxygen And All
Quote:When iron oxidizes it binds oxygen to iron, 
an efficient and long-term process to remove oxygen from the atmosphere. 
If Earth's crust were comprised of 35 percent iron, 
a large percentage of oxygen from Earth's atmosphere would be bound in iron as it begins to rust. Whip

Therefore, the lack of iron at Earth's surface is a large reason Earth doesn't look similar to Mars: 
red, barren, and lacking oxygen.

The research team focused on a discrepancy whereby more iron is removed from magma 
the thicker the crust it has to travel through. Hmm2

The team reasoned there is likely some process to remove iron from magma, 
as it travels through continental crust.

They argue that the process of removing iron is related to garnet, a common mineral on Earth, 
and commonly seen as the reddish mineral found in granite countertops. 
As molten rocks travel through Earth's crust on their way to the surface, 
it appears the temperature and pressure along with an abundance of garnets produce iron-rich garnets,
which are too heavy to continue the journey to the surface. 
This process efficiently removes iron from the Mantle melt.

The team notes that if iron were not removed before reaching the crust, 
the iron would suck the oxygen out of the atmosphere, leaving Earth to resemble Mars.

What's quite incredible is the impact this small chemical process taking place kilometers in the Earth 

has on the surface. 
Without the removal of iron, 
Earth could quite possibly look like Mars, lacking oxygen, red, and barren of life.



there may be a flaw in their reasoning note this comment:

Quote:The research team focused on a discrepancy whereby more iron is removed from magma 

the thicker the crust it has to travel through. Hmm2


Well Mars has an extremely thick crust, so whatever process happens here,
as iron moves from mantle to crust,
must not be happening on Mars.
Must have something to do with Mars mantle.

They are missing a big chunk of data as to what really is happening on Mars,
while they speculate what happened on Earth.
Nonetheless they have definitely touched on a prospect of what is going on.

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Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Data Release 45

The Planetary Data System (PDS) is pleased to announce a new delivery of
Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) data for the following instruments:

 CRISM
 CTX
 HiRISE
 MARCI
 MCS
 RSS
 SHARAD
 SPICE

There is no derived gravity data in this release.

In general, MRO Release 45 includes data collected from
August 9, 2017, to November 8, 2017. The release includes
HiRISE data from February 2, 2018, to May 6, 2018.

To access the above data, please visit the following link:
 https://pds.nasa.gov/datasearch/subscrip...0601.shtml

To access the latest PDS Data Releases, please visit the following link:
 https://pds.nasa.gov/datasearch/subscrip...ease.shtml

All available PDS data may be found at:
 https://pds.nasa.gov/datasearch/data-search/

For further information, see the PDS Home Page:
 https://pds.nasa.gov/

The PDS Team
Mailto: pds_operator@jpl.nasa.gov
Phone: (818) 393-7165

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Thanx Wook keep them honest while you're up there Angel

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The rock with a NOTE stuck to it, sol 1669.  I gave follks here a 3D view I am now giving ALL sol 1669 views that show the "noted-rock" because as you go to "Parent Directory" you can scroll through ALL sols for highlighted stitched together mosaics for viewing on ANY sol they have put there. Doesn't mean there isn;t more since I have YET to see a COLOR version of this area and I've gone all the way to sol 1690 and I can tell they MOVED the rover before taking a COLOR image of this area.  Though it is part of a NASA COLOR movie about Curiosity's journey.

https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/ms.../SOL01669/

Seems a bit odd that NO color images were taken of this noted-rock. Pennywise   Beat_deadhorse Shemp Arsespank

Wook please keep after these Joker Pokers in their dreams Angel

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I recall that "note image".
… then there's that "floating spoon image"...
among other "things"...…
heh...forgot what I was thinking...
...some kind of unknown glue substance?
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I was making a reply to kalter when the site went BONKERS trying to put an EMAIL I got from several people from JPL !!!

Did I crash the system in the middle of that reply ???   Cry

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1st I posted TWO 'new' images they sent me an email on in the HiWish thread.  They were ALREADY in the June "special releases' as I noted when getting the email and going to the pages and seeing I had ALREADY opened the browse images, then I copied each image number and downloaded all the data including the JP2's & color.

Now back to "noted-rock" I sent a small query about to the team and this was what I got back. To open the IMG images you need free version of NASAview..NOT HiView.

Hi Robert,


Here is some info from one of the MSL folks. Hope this provides some insight. Unfortunately, we aren't sure, from our perspective, what this could be.






Looks to me like he's referring to:


https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/ms...0252M1.IMG


or


https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/ms...0252M1.IMG


where there is indeed an interesting artifact on a rock which kinda 
looks like a playing card stuck there.  It's in both images as well as 
their R-eye counterparts so it's real, whatever it is.


I don't see any mastcam imaging of it.


I *think* it's the same rock as we see in 1666:


https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/ms...0299M1.IMG


at ~line 139 samp 670 but I'm not 100% sure.  If so, there is a mastcam 
of the same rock:


https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/ms...2_DRXX.IMG


at ~line 281 samp 191 but it's seen from the other side, the "card" 
artifact is not visible.


Ahh, it is visible on the *next* drive too, sol 1671:


https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/ms...0254M1.IMG


but alas, no Mastcam.  I believe you can still see it on the *next* 
drive, face-on even:


https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/ms...7753M1.IMG


at ~line 276 samp 776.  But also, no Mastcam.


The next drive (sol 1673, drive 1386) you can still see where it should 
be but it's just covered by a foreground rock.  Still no Mastcam.  After 
that it fades from view as we drive away.


So there are two different locations where it's visible in Navcam, but 
it looks like there is no Mastcam coverage.







Thanks,
Jordan


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name: Robert H Williams
email: rhw007@twcny.rr.com
phone: 5182366733
affiliation: Mars Citizen Science
Topic: sol 1669 rock with note atached
comments: https://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/ms.../SOL01669/ loook at any of the 3D or 2D black and white images you'll see a rock close to the rover with a WHITE SQUARE 'CARD' attached to it. No ZOOM image, No color image. In fact in subsequent sols Rover moves from this site 62 to 63 so the note CANNOT be seen anymore. It cannot be hidden anymore, where are the COLOR 3D ??? Mickey Malin doing another 1998 'Catbox"?
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Before I put MY reply to ALL of them I want to quote a VERY IMPORTANT FACT !!!

Quote:where there is indeed an interesting artifact on a rock which kinda 
looks like a playing card stuck there.  It's in both images as well as 
their R-eye counterparts so it's real, whatever it is.

So why didn't the team get ANY color Mastcam images ???

Here's the reply I sent to ALL of them at JPL:

Hello Jordan,
Thank You for an answer. I really did not expect one.

Why isn't the MASTCAM used for the 360 degree and also does MASTCAM have 'colorized filters' that show up in some of the shots?

To SEE this thing hanging there and having NO COLOR or CLOSE-UP of the artifact is actually MISCHIEF on the Dr Malin is something he has done before with 1998 "Catbox" of the ORIGINAL Press Release to the Media.

https://mycommonsenseparty.com/2016-imag...-image.jpg

Of course EVERY media outlet & NASA/JPL said see...nothing but a "PILE OF ROCKS" however when PROPERLY processed it doesn't even look like other Global Surveyor Images:

https://mycommonsenseparty.com/2016-images/mjcFace.gif

Seems there has been a LOT of "pasted material" since 1998 put onto this artifact.

To NOT zoom into that WHITE SQUARE / RECTANGLE hanging on that rock at site 62 is beyond cowardice; it is equal to misuse of taxpayer money for private reasons.  Absolutely NOTHING to do with RESEARCHING EVERYTHING that Curiosity sees and goes.

You are going to send a Nuclear Rover in 2020 with a helicopter but Cydonia area is NOT one of the landing spots.
Why not?  It has running linea, i.e. water.  NOT Dr Nicky Hoffman's CO2.

Why not send the Rover to where Elon Musk is going to Land, although I noticed in the Special Releases for June there are NO Elon's targets in that release.  They may be in the full release I haven't had time yet to look through everything.

To MANY of us Mars Civilian Scientists like Keith Laney (who has DONE a WHOLE lot of work for you) thinks the 2020 Rover should land somewhere where it can be MOST useful!!!  Helping Elon Musk land at the SAME latitude as Cydonia, the ONLY quadrant on Mars where the word "Enigmatic" in the description since 2005.  Before that...that was the ONLY word for its description.  That would be useful to REALLY land in Cydonia and RUN scans on ALL the monuments and see if there is steel, aluminum, iron, or other artificial elements.  Who knows there WAS two nuclear blasts as Dr. Brandenburg has proven with the Viking launders finding Xeon^128 which ONLY is created in a Nuclear explosion.

https://mycommonsenseparty.com/2017-vide...ndburg.mp4

Maybe that's why there are weird archeology all over where Curiosity has ben going and Keith has been doing Gigapans showing closeups of everything he can get the raw data to stitch together.

I would like an answer WHY didn't Dr. Mike Malin, or why the NASA/JPL hierarchy tell him to take a CLOSE-UP image of this note on the rock?  If Malin moved it on without telling anyone, I highly doubt that because I've read the process of tasking the Rover with uplink time with the MRO, choosing what camera is going to be used, its target and timing, heat, power, sun angle etc. as a TEAM effort.

What would be an HONEST answer as to WHY there is NO close-up of the thing; and NO COLOR of the thing?

With all respect, and I could use over hundred or so different acronyms of NASA/JPL; but I am not.

I would really like an answer to WHY this artifact was NOT taken with Mastcam in COLOR and 3D.  You have a 3D in Black and White but none in color.  Honestly WHY NOT?  Also why not send the #2020CydoniaRover?

I am glad we have a space program, but it has been a bit dishonest to those of us out here who really CARE about getting off this planet:

MCSP & OCSP Theme: The Light, Millennium, Windows of Heaven, Let Me Fly, I'm on Fire by Paul Kantner & Jefferson Starship   29 min

https://mycommonsenseparty.com/theme-mcs...07_123.mp3

Awaiting some honest answers.

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And then I see HMF go BONKERS and I'm thinking Holy Shit did I do that just by mentioning Keith's name?

So no I'm not a 'Thought Criminal' if anything it's the Just Plain Liars who are.

As I stated I went over the procedures that the MSL team goes through for every Sol

Let's jump 200 sols from 1669 to Sol 1869:

https://an.rsl.wustl.edu/msl/mslbrowser/an3.aspx

Activities are planned out way ahead of time and note that both Mastcam and Navcams are USED after an auto drive of about 18 meters.

So Still I ask WHY didn't SOMEBODY zoom in on the "card" in COLOR or even Black and white?


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Bob...what I forgot to say
had to do with a "crust"
on Mars' surface seen by MER
some years ago.
At the time, the only idea I had
was how to make such a crust
for fried chicken,
by coating with a shake n' bake mixture
of corn meal and parmesan cheese.

That's what I meant by an actual glue substance...tholins?
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Well the JPL folks and there were 7 of them who replied in ONE email who stated that since both left and right camera 'saw' the 'playing card' it WAS REAL !!!  Not just a 'pile of goop' or some lens flare or something mundane.

All I am saying is that NOT getting a close up, even in B&W was malfeasance in scientific exploration wasting Curiosity $$$ !!!

And at same time the ONLY quadrant where its ORIGINS:ENIGMATIC is MORE important than ANY other site for this rover to land!

#2020Cydonia Rover !!!

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Mars Exploration Rovers Opportunity Data Release 56

The Planetary Data System (PDS) is pleased to announce Release 56
of Mars Exploration Rover data.  This release includes data primarily
from Sols 4861 through 4950, rover Opportunity (MER1/B), instruments:

 APXS
 Atmospheric Opacity
 HAZCAM
 MI
 NAVCAM
 PANCAM
 SPICE

Correction: there is no RAT or Rover Motion Counter in this release.

There is no Radio Science data in this release, and no more
Mini-TES or Moessbauer data is expected.

To access the above data, please visit the following link:
 https://pds.nasa.gov/datasearch/subscrip...0626.shtml

The following special services are provided for accessing MER data:
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Odyssey Data Release 64


The Planetary Data System (PDS) is pleased to announce a new delivery of
Odyssey Data, Release 64, for the following instruments:

 GRS
 THEMIS
 RADIO SCIENCE (Release 189)
 SPICE

The gamma sensor component of the GRS instrument suite no longer returns
data. The HEND and neutron spectrometer components continue to operate.

To access the above data, please visit the following link:
 https://pds.nasa.gov/datasearch/subscrip...0702.shtml

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For further information, see the PDS Home Page:
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Just came across this video -- searched for the link here but did not find it.  Apologies if it has already been posted:

Planet Mars
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Here's another interesting one:






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHfBGhgiBCQ

Wook out for a stroll Angel

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(07-09-2018, 07:25 PM)slidika Wrote: Just came across this video -- searched for the link here but did not find it.  Apologies if it has already been posted:

Planet Mars



I flashed through as quickly as possible, rapidly picking a few seconds every few minutes.
That is so it isn't painful to watch and endure the entirety of most of these videos on Mars.
Go to just a tad before 19 minutes,
and then see his:
"bio-entities straddling flying vehicles",
and,
that will give you good reason to not go any further.
Or,
just turn off the volume as you hop skip and jump about, and then out, of the video.
There were some interesting landscapes presented with anomalies.

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V - There certainly were some things that I considered dubious.  However, there were some interesting things, too.  As usual, some winnowing by the viewer is needed.
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