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Archaeologists Believe They Found Location Where Jesus Christ Taught
#34
Reflect on the teckton and architects and Archae-texts...

Was there a hidden civilisation of scientists in Jesus' time advanced beyond mere kingdoms.

Knowing earth has no "REAL" map borders. You would see a new heaven and a new earth just by traveling from egypt to bethlehem.
Or from Galillee to Jerusalem.
Just by observing your surroundings and then looking straight up to God at Zenith.

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You would know the true horizon and astronomical horizon  and that Nadir is where all souls go to hell. Devil

No more hocus-pocus  Naughty if you were schooled to know your locus and can put the universe in focus.

Then...with this basic knowledge even a so-called"lost sheep" could find its way back to Migdal Eder.


the word “magus” may be interpreted as “astronomer” or “astrologer”
http://armenianweekly.com/2012/01/06/a-s...n-armenia/
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You could pretty much find your way anywhere from where you hailed from and return another way if herod assailed them.
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#35
EA why you have to take everything that is dear and sacred for some people and have to make it stupid, filthy and dirty? Why dont you concentrate on your science whatever you want and live Christ and Christianity out of your dirty mind?
Seek and ye shall find. JESUS
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#36
I'm still Seeking Jesus...

[move]I'll let you know when Eye find him...[/move]

Now where the hell did I put him???
Hmmm... Hmm2

Lemmee seeeeeeeeee

Matthew Sheep Mark

Luke and Sheep John

Dunno

I'm sure I put him somewhere... Bricks

I'll get back to you on your issues after communion with the universe.

More whine?


I am literally doing what your tagline says.
Says a lot about you.

This is an ultra-modern unique seek.
So modern itz real and happening now.

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Third along the vines of the vineyard...
Second secure forked tongue in cheek...
First I must apologise to Mayito and turn the other cheek...
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I Am sorry mayito.

Chorus:
Moving on...


Thanx for slapping me back to reality mayito. Mellow

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#37
Moving on...
Place your A.D. Here  News Nigh  :new:
Quote:Did you hear the Good News...
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A.D. Ground Zero

This is an ultra-modern unique seek.
So modern itz real and happening now.


…Let us now go even unto Bethlehem,
and see this thing which is come to pass(over like a satelite…. :angel2:)
Luke 2:15

We have the capability to gain a higher resolution view of the past.
We can Cumpute it.

Eh Deo?
(01-24-2015, 10:38 PM)deo link Wrote:Significantly before His time, it seems.  Mellow

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http://phys.org/news/2014-11-antikythera...greek.html
World's First Known Computer B.C.

Imagine how many pieces of silver Judas could have sold out this view for???
Solomon would easily Bid his entire wealth on Ebay for this God's Eye View.

Now we can just "Google it".
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#38
Lest ye forget.
I will remind you.
(01-18-2015, 04:08 PM)EA link Wrote:Whomever Jesus was we don't have scientific evidence of him that is not contested by scholars as of yet.

But Don't "Kid Yourself" Devil
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There is evidence of a creator. Mellow

There would be No School and No Students and No Magdelene with No Jesus to teach to them.

[move]"Such extreme fine-tuning supports the anthropic view of our Universe,..."[/move]

New evidence for anthropic theory that fundamental physics constants underlie life-enabling universe

Jan 16, 2015

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Graphical representation of the question of how fine-tuned life on Earth is under variations of the average light quark mass and ?_{EM}. Image courtesy of Dean Lee. Credit: Science China Press

Quote:For nearly half a century, theoretical physicists have made a series of discoveries that certain constants in fundamental physics seem extraordinarily fine-tuned to allow for the emergence of a life-enabling universe. Constants that crisscross the Standard Model of Particle Physics guided the formation of hydrogen nuclei during the Big Bang, along with the carbon and oxygen atoms initially fused at the center of massive first-generation stars that exploded as supernovae; these processes in turn set the stage for solar systems and planets capable of supporting carbon-based life dependent on water and oxygen.

The theory that an Anthropic Principle guided the physics and evolution of the universe was initially proposed by Brandon Carter while he was a post-doctoral researcher in astrophysics at the University of Cambridge; this theory was later debated by Cambridge scholar Stephen Hawking and a widening web of physicists around the world.

German scholar Ulf-G Meißner, chair in theoretical nuclear physics at the Helmholtz Institute, University of Bonn, adds to a series of discoveries that support this Anthropic Principle.

In a new study titled "Anthropic considerations in nuclear physics" and published in the Beijing-based journal Science Bulletin (previously titled Chinese Science Bulletin), Professor Meißner provides an overview of the Anthropic Principle (AP) in astrophysics and particle physics and states: "One can indeed perform physics tests of this rather abstract [AP] statement for specific processes like element generation."

"This can be done with the help of high performance computers that allow us to simulate worlds in which the fundamental parameters underlying nuclear physics take values different from the ones in Nature," he explains.

"Specific physics problems we want to address, namely how sensitive the generation of the light elements in the Big Bang is to changes in the light quark mass m_q and also, how robust the resonance condition in the triple alpha process, i.e. the closeness of the so-called Hoyle state to the energy of 4He+8Be, is under variations in m_q and the electromagnetic fine structure constant ?_{EM}," he adds.

Brandon Carter initially posited the theory: "The universe (and hence the fundamental parameters on which it depends) must be such as to admit the creation of observers within it at some stage."

Stephen Hawking, expert on the Big Bang and cosmic inflation, extended the dialogue on the Anthropic Principle in a series of papers and books. In "A Brief History of Time," he outlines an array of astrophysics phenomena and constants that seem to support the AP theory, and asks: "Why did the universe start out with so nearly the critical rate of expansion that separates models that recollapse from those that go on expanding forever, that even now, ten thousand million years later, it is still expanding at nearly the critical rate?"

"If the rate of expansion one second after the Big Bang had been smaller by even one part in a hundred thousand million million," he explains, "the universe would have recollapsed before it ever reached its present size."

Professor Ulf-G Meißner, in explaining his new groundbreaking study, states: "The Universe we live in is characterized by certain parameters that take specific values that appear to be remarkably fine-tuned to make life, including on Earth, possible. "

"For example, the age of the Universe must be large enough to allow for the formation of galaxies, stars and planets, and for second- and third-generation stars that incorporated the carbon and oxygen propagated by earlier exploding stars," he says.

"On more microscopic scales, he adds, "certain fundamental parameters of the Standard Model of light quark masses or the electromagnetic fine structure constant must take values that allow for the formation of neutrons, protons and atomic nuclei."

And while the Big Bang Nucleosynthesis gave rise to hydrogen nuclei and alpha particles (4He nuclei), elements widely regarded as essential to life including carbon and oxygen were only produced later, inside massive stars that burned bright and died quickly, some through a supernova explosion that spread these elements to later generations of star systems.

In one series of experiments involving intricate computer simulations on JUQUUEN at Forschungszentrum Jülich, Professor Meißner and his colleagues altered the values of light quark masses from those found in Nature to determine how great a variation would prevent the formation of carbon or oxygen inside massive stars. "Variations in the light quark masses of up to 2-3 percent are unlikely to be catastrophic to the formation of life-essential carbon and oxygen," he concludes. (please see Figure 1)

And earlier, during the Big Bang's generation of the nuclei of first two elements in the Periodic Table, he notes, "From the observed element abundances and the fact that the free neutron decays in about 882 seconds and the surviving neutrons are mostly captured in 4He, one finds a stringent bound on the light quark mass variations ... under the reasonable assumption that the masses of all quarks and leptons appearing in neutron ?-decay scale with the Higgs vacuum expectation value."

"Thus," Professor Meißner states, "the Big Bang Nucleosynthesis sets indeed very tight limits on the variations of the light quark mass."

"Such extreme fine-tuning supports the anthropic view of our Universe," he adds.

"Clearly, one can think of many universes, the multiverse, in which various fundamental parameters take different values leading to environments very different from ours," Professor Meißner states.

Professor Stephen Hawking states that even slight alterations in the life-enabling constants of fundamental physics in this hypothesized multiverse could "give rise to universes that, although they might be very beautiful, would contain no one able to wonder at that beauty."

Professor Meißner agrees: "In that sense," he says, "our Universe has a preferred status, and this is the basis of the so-called Anthropic Principle."


Explore further: Variables of nature

More information: Meißner, U. "Anthropic considerations in nuclear physics" Science Bulletin, 2015, 60(1) : 43-54. link.springer.com/article/10.1… %2Fs11434-014-0670-2

Journal reference: Chinese Science Bulletin 

Provided by Science China Press
http://phys.org/news/2015-01-evidence-an...tml#ajTabs

"The universe (and hence the fundamental parameters on which it depends) must be such as to [b]admit the creation of observers within it at some stage."
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Improv is an unstaged event even if itz on a stage.
The Root of Improv is improve.
That sounds like jesus and it sounds like darwin.

Holy Makeraal!!! Pennywise
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#39
Eye woke up to THIS:  Coffee2  this Morning...

Quote:Medical research

Brazil finds coffee protein with morphine effect
Brazilian scientists have discovered a protein in coffee that has effects similar to pain reliever morphine, researchers at the state University of Brasilia (UnB) and state-owned Brazilian Agricultural Research ...

7 hours ago
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That was interesting... Hmm2
Wich led to my attention to another science backed fact.

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What was the atmosphere like @ this "School"??? Dunno

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Was there a noticeable "Change" in the air of Migdal?

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Was there a noticeable "Change" in the Heir of David?

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The discovery of how incensole acetate, purified from [b]frankincense, works on specific targets in the brain should also help us understand diseases of the nervous system. This study also provides a biological explanation for millennia-old spiritual practices that have persisted across time, distance, culture, language, and religion--
Reefer burning incense really does make you feel warm and tingly all over!" Mellow
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Burning Incense Is Psychoactive: New Class Of Antidepressants Might Be Right Under Our Noses

Date:May 20, 2008
Source:Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology
Summary:Burning frankincense (resin from the Boswellia plant) activates poorly understood ion channels in the brain to alleviate anxiety or depression. This suggests that an entirely new class of depression and anxiety drugs might be right under our noses.

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Smoking incense burner in Nepal.Credit: iStockphoto/Yungshu Chao

Quote:Religious leaders have contended for millennia that burning incense is good for the soul. Now, biologists have learned that it is good for our brains too. An international team of scientists, including researchers from Johns Hopkins University and the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, describe how burning frankincense (resin from the Boswellia plant) activates poorly understood ion channels in the brain to alleviate anxiety or depression. This suggests that an entirely new class of depression and anxiety drugs might be right under our noses.

"In spite of information stemming from ancient texts, constituents of Bosweilla had not been investigated for psychoactivity," said Raphael Mechoulam, one of the research study's co-authors. "We found that incensole acetate, a Boswellia resin constituent, when tested in mice lowers anxiety and causes antidepressive-like behavior.
Koolaid
Apparently, most present day worshipers assume that incense burning has only a symbolic meaning."

To determine incense's psychoactive effects, the researchers administered incensole acetate to mice. They found that the compound significantly affected areas in brain areas known to be involved in emotions as well as in nerve circuits that are affected by current anxiety and depression drugs. Specifically, incensole acetate activated a protein called TRPV3, which is present in mammalian brains and also known to play a role in the perception of warmth of the skin. When mice bred without this protein were exposed to incensole acetate, the compound had no effect on their brains.

"Perhaps Marx wasn't too wrong when he called religion the opium of the people: morphine comes from poppies, cannabinoids from marijuana, and LSD from mushrooms; each of these has been used in one or another religious ceremony." said Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal. "Studies of how those psychoactive drugs work have helped us understand modern neurobiology. The discovery of how incensole acetate, purified from frankincense, works on specific targets in the brain should also help us understand diseases of the nervous system. This study also provides a biological explanation for millennia-old spiritual practices that have persisted across time, distance, culture, language, and religion--burning incense really does make you feel warm and tingly all over!"

According to the National Institutes of Health, major depressive disorder is the leading cause of disability in the United States for people ages 15--44, affecting approximately 14.8 million American adults. A less severe form of depression, dysthymic disorder, affects approximately 3.3 million American adults. Anxiety disorders affect 40 million American adults, and frequently co-occur with depressive disorders.

http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/abstra...7-101865v1
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#40
Let's pierce some illusions and use my allusions.
Like poking a hole in the viel to see through to the Mirror Tree.

A Chrism Schism Of High-Science  Reefer  and mundane ritual.

Myrrh - wiki

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Commiphora myrrha tree, one of the primary trees from which myrrh is harvested.

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Myrrh is a common resin in the Horn of Africa.

Quote:An essential oil extracted from myrrh (Commiphora myrrha)Myrrh /?m?r/ from the Arabic ?? (mur), is the aromatic resin of a number of small, thorny tree species of the genus Commiphora,[1] which is an essential oil termed an oleoresin. Myrrh resin is a natural gum. It has been used throughout history as a perfume, incense and medicine. It can also be ingested by mixing it with wine.[2]

When a tree wound penetrates through the bark and into the sapwood, the tree bleeds a resin. Myrrh gum, like frankincense, is such a resin. When people harvest myrrh, they wound the trees repeatedly to bleed them of the gum. Myrrh gum is waxy, and coagulates quickly. After the harvest, the gum becomes hard and glossy. The gum is yellowish, and may be either clear or opaque. It darkens deeply as it ages, and white streaks emerge.[3]
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Myrrh gum is commonly harvested from the species Commiphora myrrha, which is native to Yemen, Somalia, Eritrea and eastern Ethiopia. Another commonly used name, Commiphora molmol,[4] is now considered a synonym of Commiphora myrrha.[5] The related Commiphora gileadensis, native to Eastern Mediterranean and particularly the Arabian Peninsula,[6] is the biblically referenced Balm of Gilead,[7] also known as Balsam of Mecca. Several other species yield bdellium and Indian myrrh.

The oleo gum resins of a number of other Commiphora species are also used as perfumes, medicines (such as aromatic wound dressings), and incense ingredients. These myrrh-like resins are known as opopanax, balsam, bdellium, guggul and bisabol.

Fragrant "myrrh beads" are made from the crushed seeds of Detarium microcarpum, an unrelated West African tree. These beads are traditionally worn by married women in Mali as multiple strands around the hips.

The name "myrrh" is also applied to the potherb Myrrhis odorata, otherwise known as "cicely" or "sweet cicely".

Myrrh is also found in the Christian Bible as one of the three gifts the wise men presented to the Christ Child.

Etymology[edit]The word "myrrh" derives from the Aramaic ????? (murr), and Arabic ?? (mur)? meaning "bitter". Its name entered the English language from the Hebrew Bible, where it is called mor, ???, and later as a Semitic loanword[8] was used in the Greek myth of Myrrha, and later in the Septuagint; in the Greek language, the related word ????? (mýron) became a general term for perfume.

Attributed medicinal properties[edit]

Traditional Chinese medicine[edit]In traditional Chinese medicine, myrrh is classified as bitter and spicy, with a neutral temperature. It is said to have special efficacy on the heart, liver, and spleen meridians, as well as "blood-moving" powers to purge stagnant blood from the uterus. It is therefore recommended for rheumatic, arthritic, and circulatory problems, and for amenorrhea, dysmenorrhea, menopause, and uterine tumors.

Myrrh's uses are similar to those of frankincense, with which it is often combined in decoctions, liniments and incense. When used in concert, myrrh is "blood-moving" while frankincense moves the Qi, making it more useful for arthritic conditions.

It is combined with such herbs as notoginseng, safflower petals, angelica sinensis, cinnamon, and salvia miltiorrhiza, usually in alcohol, and used both internally and externally.[9]

Ayurvedic medicine[edit]Myrrh is used more frequently in Ayurveda and Unani medicine, which ascribe tonic and rejuvenative properties to the resin. It (daindhava) is utilized in many specially processed rasayana formulas in Ayurveda. However, non-rasayana myrrh is contraindicated when kidney dysfunction or stomach pain is apparent, or for women who are pregnant or have excessive uterine bleeding.

A related species, called guggul in Ayurvedic medicine, is considered one of the best substances for the treatment of circulatory problems, nervous system disorders and rheumatic complaints.[10][11]

Western medicine[edit]In pharmacy, myrrh is used as an antiseptic in mouthwashes, gargles, and toothpastes[12] for prevention and treatment of gum disease.[13] Myrrh is currently used in some liniments and healing salves that may be applied to abrasions and other minor skin ailments. Myrrh has also been recommended as an analgesic for toothaches, and can be used in liniment for bruises, aches, and sprains.[14]

Myrrh is a common ingredient of tooth powders. Myrrh and borax in tincture can be used as a mouth-wash. A compound tincture, or horse tincture, using myrrh is used in veterinary practice for healing wounds. Meetiga, the trade-name of Arabian Myrrh, is more brittle and gummy than that of the Somalian variety and does not have the latter's white markings. Liquid Myrrh, or Stacte, spoken of by Pliny, also an ingredient of Jewish holy incense, was formerly obtainable and greatly valued but cannot now be identified in today's markets. Myrrh gum is used for indigestion, ulcers, colds, cough, asthma, lung congestion, arthritis pain, and cancer.[15]

"As part of a larger search for anticancer compounds from plants, the researchers obtained extracts from a particular species of myrrh plant (Commiphora myrrha) and tested it against a human breast tumor cell line (MCF-7) known to be resistant to anticancer drugs. Research data indicated that the extract killed all of the cancer cells in laboratory dishes.".[16]
Mechanisms of action[edit]In an attempt to determine the cause of its effectiveness, researchers examined the individual ingredients of a herbal formula used traditionally by Kuwaiti diabetics to lower blood glucose. Myrrh and aloe gums effectively improved glucose tolerance in both normal and diabetic rats.[17]

Myrrh was shown to produce analgesic effects on mice which were subjected to pain. Researchers at the University of Florence showed that sesquiterpenes furanoeudesma-1,3-diene and curzarene in the myrrh affect opioid receptors in the mouse's brain which influence pain perception.[18][19]

Mirazid, an Egyptian drug made from myrrh, has been investigated as an oral treatment of parasitic ailments, including fascioliasis and schistosomiasis.[20]

Myrrh has been shown to lower LDL cholesterol (bad cholesterol) levels, as well as to increase the HDL cholesterol (good cholesterol) in various tests on humans done in the past few decades. A 2009 laboratory test showed this same effect on albino rats.[21]

In studies done on mice, myrrh has been shown to have significant inhibiting effects on certain types of cancer. The active constituents of myrrh accredited with this property are sesquiterpenes. These tests were done using the myrrh species Commiphora molmol, and were also found to inhibit tumor growth.[22]

Religious ritual[edit]Myrrh was used by the ancient Egyptians, along with natron, for the embalming of mummies.[23]

Myrrh was an ingredient of Ketoret, the consecrated incense used in the First and Second Temples at Jerusalem, as described in the Hebrew Bible and Talmud. An offering was made of the Ketoret on a special incense altar, and was an important component of the Temple service. Myrrh is also listed as an ingredient in the holy anointing oil used to anoint the Tabernacle, high priests and kings.

Oil of myrrh is used in the book of Esther (2:12) in a purification ritual for the new queen to King Ahasuerus:

"Now when every maid's turn was come to go in to king Ahasuerus, after that she had been twelve months, according to the manner of the women, (for so were the days of their purifications accomplished, to wit, six months with oil of myrrh, and six months with sweet odors, and with other things for the purifying of the women;)[24]
Myrrh was traded by camel caravans overland from areas of production in southern Arabia by the Nabataeans to their capital city of Petra, from which it was distributed throughout the Mediterranean region.[7]


According to the book of Matthew 2:11, gold, frankincense and myrrh were among the gifts to Jesus by the Biblical Magi "from the East." Because of its mention in New Testament, myrrh is an incense offered during Christian liturgical celebrations (see Thurible). Liquid myrrh is sometimes added to egg tempera in the making of icons.

Matthew records that as Jesus went to the cross, they gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink (Matthew 27:34). Mark described the drink as wine mingled with myrrh (Mark 15:23). The drink offered to Jesus was a cheap Roman vinegar wine, which had a drug mixed in to dull the senses. It was the custom of the Romans to offer a man being crucified drugged wine so that he might more easily endure his cross. Jesus refused the wine, however, apparently so that He could go through his suffering with a clear mind.

Myrrh is mixed with frankincense and sometimes more scents and is used in almost every service of the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, traditional Roman Catholic and Anglican/Episcopal Churches.

Myrrh is also used to prepare the sacramental chrism used by many churches of both Eastern and Western rites. In the Middle East, the Eastern Orthodox Church traditionally uses oil scented with myrrh (and other fragrances) to perform the sacrament of chrismation, which is commonly referred to as "receiving the Chrism".

In the bible myrrh is mentioned 156 times.[25]

According to the Encyclopedia of Islamic Herbal Medicine, "The Messenger of Allah stated, 'Fumigate your houses with al-shih, murr, and sa'tar.'" The author claims that this use of the word "murr" refers specifically to Commiphora myrrha.[26]

Ancient myrrh[edit]Modern myrrh has long been commented on as coming from a different source to that held in high regard by the ancients, having been superior in some way. Pedanius Dioscorides described the myrrh of the first century AD as most likely to refer to a "species of mimosa", describing it "like the Egyptian thorn". He describes its appearance and leaf structure as "pinnate-winged". The ancient type of myrrh conjectured was noted for possessing a far more delightful odor than the modern. It was noted in 1837 that "The time, perhaps, is not far distant, when, through the spirit of research, the true myrrh-tree will be found".[27]
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Toss some Wine in there and everybody sees the lord!!! Koolaid





Quote:Hallucinogen persisting perception disorderFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD) is a disorder characterized by a continual presence of sensory disturbances, most commonly visual, that are reminiscent of those generated by the use of hallucinogenic substances. Previous use of hallucinogens by the person is necessary, but not sufficient, for diagnosis of HPPD. For an individual to be diagnosed with HPPD, the symptoms cannot be due to another medical condition. HPPD is distinct from flashbacks by reason of its relative permanence; while flashbacks are transient, HPPD is persistent. HPPD is a DSM-IV diagnosis with diagnostic code 292.89.

Symptoms[edit]

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HPPD noise simulation, often referred to as visual snowThere are a number of perceptual changes that can accompany HPPD. Typical symptoms of the disorder include: halos or auras surrounding objects, trails following objects in motion, difficulty distinguishing between colors, apparent shifts in the hue of a given item, the illusion of movement in a static setting, air assuming a grainy or textured quality (visual snow or static, by popular description, not to be confused with normal "blue field entoptic phenomenon"), distortions in the dimensions of a perceived object, and a heightened awareness of floaters. The visual alterations experienced by those with HPPD are not homogeneous and there appear to be individual differences in both the number and intensity of symptoms.
Visual aberrations can occur periodically in healthy individuals – e.g. afterimages after staring at a light, noticing floaters inside the eye, or seeing specks of light in a darkened room. However, in people with HPPD, symptoms are typically persistent enough that the individual cannot ignore them.[citation needed]

There is some uncertainty about to what degree visual snow constitutes a true HPPD symptom. There are many individuals who have never used a drug which could have caused the onset, but yet experience the same grainy vision reported by HPPD sufferers. There are a few potential reasons for this, the most obvious of which being the theory that the drug usage may exaggerate the intensity of visual snow. Another theory is that instead, there may be no change in the severity or magnitude of the visual snow, but perhaps the drug usage opens sensory pathways that result in the individual becoming more aware of any visual disturbances that may have simply not been noticed before the incidence of drug use. As for root cause of visual snow, some theories suggest that it is the result of thermal noise in the visual cortex or in the 'Optic Pathway' (encompassing photoreceptor cells on the retina, the optic nerve, and the optic chiasm[1]), as eye tests for individuals who experience visual snow often reveal that physically, the eye is perfectly normal, and in many cases the individual still maintains 20/20 vision.

Since most hallucinogenic drugs are mostly visual, HPPD usually has a visual manifestation. Drugs affecting the auditory sense, like DiPT, may produce auditory disturbances, though there are few known cases. Some psychedelic drugs can produce temporary tinnitus-like symptoms as a side effect.[2][3]

It also should be noted that the visuals do not constitute true hallucinations in the clinical sense of the word; people with HPPD recognize the visuals to be illusory, or pseudohallucinations, and thus maintain the ability to determine what is real (in contrast to some mental illnesses such as schizophrenia).[4]

Prevalence[edit]The probability of developing HPPD after consuming a hallucinogen is unknown. In their review article, John Halpern and Harrison Pope write that "the data does not permit us to estimate, even crudely, the prevalence of ‘strict’ HPPD."[5] These authors noted that they had not encountered it in their evaluation of 500 Native American Church members who had taken the hallucinogenic cactus peyote on at least 100 occasions. In a presentation of preliminary results from ongoing research, Matthew Baggott and colleagues from University of California Berkeley found that HPPD-like symptoms occurred in 4.1% of participants (107 of 2,679) in a web-based survey of hallucinogen users. These people reported visual problems after drug use that were serious enough that they considered seeking professional help.[6] This number may overestimate the prevalence of HPPD, since people with visual problems may have been more interested in completing the researchers' questionnaire. The authors reported that 16,192 people viewed the study information but did not complete the questionnaire. If all these people had used hallucinogens without developing visual problems, then the prevalence of serious visual problems in this larger group would be 0.66%. Since these people were not formally diagnosed in person (and may have had visual problems caused by other disorders), this number may provide a reasonable upper limit on the prevalence of HPPD.[6]

It is possible the prevalence of HPPD has been underestimated by authorities because many people with visual problems relating to drug use either do not seek treatment or, when they do seek treatment, do not admit to having used illicit drugs. In the sample of Baggott, only 16 of the 107 people with possible HPPD had sought help and two of these people had been diagnosed with HPPD. Thus, it may be that HPPD occurs more often than is detected by the health care system.[6]

Causes[edit]The cause(s) of HPPD are not yet known. It has been theorized that HPPD is an anomaly in executive function brought on by the dis-inhibition of the COMT enzyme in the breakdown of catecholamines in the brain following hallucinogen use, resulting in sensory gating disruption.[7]

In some cases, HPPD appears to have a sudden onset after a single drug experience, strongly suggesting the drug played a direct role in triggering symptoms. But in other cases, people report gradual worsening of symptoms with ongoing drug use.[citation needed] Drugs that have been associated with HPPD include LSD,[5][8] 2C-E, 2C-I, 5-MeO-DMT,[9] MDA, MDMA,[10][11] psilocybin,[12] [5] diphenhydramine, PCP, synthetic cannabis, and high doses of dextromethorphan.[citation needed] Additionally there are anecdotal reports of the atypical psychedelic Salvia divinorum causing persisting symptoms consistent with HPPD.[citation needed]

Co-existing problems[edit]The visual problems of HPPD can occur along with other mental ailments. Of these, the most prominent are anxiety, panic attacks, depersonalization disorder, and depression. In the sample of Baggott and colleagues, hallucinogen users with persisting and severe visual problems were significantly more likely to report anxiety and depression diagnoses than hallucinogen users without serious visual problems. For example, 25.9% of hallucinogen users with visual problems reported current or past diagnosis of depression.[citation needed]

While it is difficult, if not impossible, to establish a clear relationship between the visual and mental symptoms, those with HPPD often testify that a connection indeed exists. For example, some claims that anxiety can cause the visuals to become more prominent and vice-versa.

One possible cause of increased anxiety and depression is the person reacting negatively to the visual disturbances.

Treatment[edit]As yet, there is no cure available for HPPD. A study presented by Dr. Henry Abraham, at the Annual Meeting of the Biological Psychiatry Society in 2012, showed that two drugs, Tolcapone and levocarb that are primarily used in the treatment of Parkinsons Disease improved the symptoms of HPPD in one third of the 20 test subjects who had participated in the trial. As Tolcapone, and levocarb, are not approved for use in HPPD, the principal treatments that are available seek to reduce distress without treating the underlying cause. Primarily Benzodiazepines including clonazepam (Klonopin),[13] diazepam (Valium) and alprazolam (Xanax) are prescribed with a fair amount of success. The anticonvulsant drug levetiracetam has been reported to diminish some of the visual symptoms, as well as reduce depersonalization and derealization symptoms, that can occur along with HPPD. The efficacy of Levetiracetam in treating HPPD has been documented in a prospective study.[14] Another anticonvulsant, lamotrigine, has also been used to successfully treat HPPD.[8]

Some medications have been contraindicated on the basis of their effects on HPPD or the concurrent mental issues. The atypical antipsychotic Risperidone is reported to worsen symptoms of HPPD during the drug's duration in some people.[15][16] Those with HPPD are often advised to discontinue all drug use, many of which are thought to increase visuals in the short-term. There are also less concrete factors that may be generally detrimental to those with HPPD. For example, sleep deprivation and stress are thought to increase HPPD symptoms.[8] However, no published studies have investigated whether any of these recommendations are helpful.[citation needed]

There is no universal time course of HPPD recovery. The adverse psychological effects of HPPD appear to lessen more rapidly than the visuals; quality of life often returns as a person adjusts.

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Recovery may be facilitated by a psychological habituation to the visuals, which, in effect, reduces the victim’s inclination to attend to and react negatively to them. The deleterious consequences of the visuals can therefore be reduced even if the HPPD does not disappear.[citation needed]

There is currently little reliable information on how often people fully recover from HPPD. There have been reports of HPPD victims having normal perception totally return. The small number of cases of HPPD that have been studied in depth make it difficult to determine how often and under what conditions the visual symptoms of HPPD resolve.
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Quote:Recovery may be facilitated by a psychological habituation to the visuals, which, in effect, reduces the victim’s inclination to attend to and react negatively to them. The deleterious consequences of the visuals can therefore be reduced even if the HPPD does not disappear.[citation needed]

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In the eye of a chicken, a new state of matter comes into view

Feb 24, 2014

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Researchers from Princeton University and Washington University in St. Louis report that the unusual arrangement of cells in a chicken's eye constitutes the first known biological occurrence of a potentially new state of matter known as "disordered hyperuniformity," which has been shown to have unique physical properties. These states have a "hidden order" that allows them to behave like crystal and liquid states of matter. They exhibit order over large distances and disorder over small distances. This diagram depicts the spatial distribution of the five types of light-sensitive cells known as cones in the chicken retina. Credit: Image courtesy of Joseph Corbo and Timothy Lau, Washington University in St. Louis

Quote:Along with eggs, soup and rubber toys, the list of the chicken's most lasting legacies may eventually include advanced materials such as self-organizing colloids, or optics that can transmit light with the efficiency of a crystal and the flexibility of a liquid.

The unusual arrangement of cells in a chicken's eye constitutes the first known biological occurrence of a potentially new state of matter known as "disordered hyperuniformity," according to researchers from Princeton University and Washington University in St. Louis. Research in the past decade has shown that disordered hyperuniform materials have unique properties when it comes to transmitting and controlling light waves, the researchers report in the journal Physical Review E.

States of disordered hyperuniformity behave like crystal and liquid states of matter, exhibiting order over large distances and disorder over small distances. Like crystals, these states greatly suppress variations in the density of particles—as in the individual granules of a substance—across large spatial distances so that the arrangement is highly uniform. At the same time, disordered hyperuniform systems are similar to liquids in that they have the same physical properties in all directions. Combined, these characteristics mean that hyperuniform optical circuits, light detectors and other materials could be controlled to be sensitive or impervious to certain light wavelengths, the researchers report.

"Disordered hyperuniform materials possess a hidden order," explained co-corresponding author Salvatore Torquato, a Princeton professor of chemistry. It was Torquato who, with Frank Stillinger, a senior scientist in Princeton's chemistry department, first identified hyperuniformity in a 2003 paper in Physical Review E.

"We've since discovered that such physical systems are endowed with exotic physical properties and therefore have novel capabilities," Torquato said. "The more we learn about these special disordered systems, the more we find that they really should be considered a new distinguishable state of matter."

The researchers studied the light-sensitive cells known as cones that are in the eyes of chickens and most other birds active in daytime. These birds have four types of cones for color—violet, blue, green and red—and one type for detecting light levels, and each cone type is a different size. The cones are packed into a single layer of eye tissue called the epithelium, but not in nature's usual way, the researchers report.

In many creatures' eyes, visual cells are evenly distributed in an obvious pattern such as the familiar hexagonal compact eyes of insects. In many creatures, the different types of cones are laid out so that they are not near cones of the same type. At first glance, however, the chicken eye appears to have a scattershot of cones distributed in no particular order.

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The simulation revealed the underlying pattern of the chicken's cones. While the arrangement is a type of packing problem, it has the addition of an "exclusion region" around each type of cone that other cones cannot enter. Cones of the same type shut out each other more than they do unlike cones, and this variant exclusion causes distinctive cone patterns. Each type of cone's pattern overlays the pattern of another cone. So, while it appeared that the cones were irregularly placed, their distribution was actually uniform over large distances. In the diagram above, two cells (left) appear randomly placed. However, the exclusion regions for both the black (center) and red cells (right) push against nearby cells and give the cell arrangements structure. The black cells fall into a triangle-like pattern in the absence of other cell types. Credit: Image courtesy of Salvatore Torquato, Princeton University

The lab of co-corresponding author Joseph Corbo, an associate professor of pathology and immunology, and genetics at Washington University in St. Louis, studies how the chicken's unusual visual layout evolved. Thinking that perhaps it had something to do with how the cones are packed into such a small space, Corbo approached Torquato, whose group studies the geometry and dynamics of densely packed objects such as particles.

Torquato then worked with the paper's first author Yang Jiao, who received his Ph.D. in mechanical and aerospace engineering from Princeton in 2010 and is now an assistant professor of materials science and engineering at Arizona State University. Torquato and Jiao developed a computer-simulation model that went beyond standard packing doink-head to mimic the final arrangement of chicken cones and allowed them to see the underlying method to the madness.

It turned out that each type of cone has an area around it called an "exclusion region" that other cones cannot enter. Cones of the same type shut out each other more than they do unlike cones, and this variant exclusion causes distinctive cone patterns. Each type of cone's pattern overlays the pattern of another cone so that the formations are intertwined in an organized but disordered way—a kind of uniform disarray. So, while it appeared that the cones were irregularly placed, their distribution was actually uniform over large distances. That's disordered hyperuniformity, Torquato said.

"Because the cones are of different sizes it's not easy for the system to go into a crystal or ordered state," Torquato said. "The system is frustrated from finding what might be the optimal solution, which would be the typical ordered arrangement. While the pattern must be disordered, it must also be as uniform as possible. Thus, disordered hyperuniformity is an excellent solution."

The researchers' findings add a new dimension called multi-hyperuniformity. This means that the elements that make up the arrangement are themselves hyperuniform. While individual cones of the same type appear to be unconnected, they are actually subtly linked by exclusion regions, which they use to self-organize into patterns. Multi-hyperuniformity is crucial for the avian system to evenly sample incoming light, Torquato said. He and his co-authors speculate that this behavior could provide a basis for developing materials that can self-assemble into a disordered hyperuniform state.

"You also can think of each one of these five different visual cones as hyperuniform," Torquato said. "If I gave you the avian system with these cones and removed the red, it's still hyperuniform. Now, let's remove the blue—what remains is still hyperuniform. That's never been seen in any system, physical or biological. If you had asked me to recreate this arrangement before I saw this data I might have initially said that it would be very difficult to do."

The discovery of hyperuniformity in a biological system could mean that the state is more common than previously thought, said Remi Dreyfus, a researcher at the Pennsylvania-based Complex Assemblies of Soft Matter lab (COMPASS) co-run by the University of Pennsylvania, the French National Centre for Scientific Research and the French chemical company Solvay. Previously, disordered hyperuniformity had only been observed in specialized physical systems such as liquid helium, simple plasmas and densely packed granules.

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Unlike chickens, visual cells are evenly distributed in an obvious pattern in many creatures' eyes. The Washington University researchers thought the unusual arrangement in chickens (left) had to do with how the cones are packed into the small, thin layer of eye tissue known as the epithelium. The Princeton researchers developed a computer-simulation model that mimicked the final arrangement of chicken cones (right). The colored dots represent the centers of the chicken's eye cells. They are enlarged and colored for visualization purposes. Credit: Image courtesy of Salvatore Torquato, Princeton University

"It really looks like this idea of hyperuniformity, which started from a theoretical basis, is extremely general and that we can find them in many places," said Dreyfus, who is familiar with the research but had no role in it. "I think more and more people will look back at their data and figure out whether there is hyperuniformity or not. They will find this kind of hyperuniformity is more common in many physical and biological systems."

The findings also provide researchers with a detailed natural model that could be useful in efforts to construct hyperuniform systems and technologies, Dreyfus said. "Nature has found a way to make multi-hyperuniformity," he said. "Now you can take the cue from what nature has found to create a multi-hyperuniform pattern if you intend to."

Evolutionarily speaking, the researchers' results show that nature found a unique workaround to the problem of cramming all those cones into the compact avian eye, Corbo said. The ordered pattern of cells in most other animals' eyes are thought to be the "optimal" arrangement, and anything less would result in impaired vision. Yet, birds with the arrangement studied here—including chickens—have impeccable vision, Corbo said.

"These findings are significant because they suggest that the arrangement of photoreceptors in the bird, although not perfectly regular, are, in fact, as regular as they can be given the packing constraints in the epithelium," Corbo said.

"This result indicates that evolution has driven the system to the 'optimal' arrangement possible, given these constraints," he said. "We still know nothing about the cellular and molecular mechanisms that underlie this beautiful and highly organized arrangement in birds. So, future research directions will include efforts to decipher how these patterns develop in the embryo."


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Listen to the 'sevens, as presented by Chuck Missler found in Christ's geneology in Matthew.
Until the scoffer can explain that, their opinions are of little value.

Matthew was inspired beyond the mere bounds of human skill or ability.
No mention of the nonsense presented here to be found in his writings. or those of the other gosples.

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This is my last post, I had enough of EA and his lack of respect, his hate and intentionall attacks against the Christian faith goes beyond disrespect and into areas of discrimination and harassment. I will no longer post any more comments. I am still debating if I even will come back to visit this site that I love dearly.
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The origin of life: Labyrinths as crucibles of life

Date:January 27, 2015

Source:Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Summary:Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

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Red hot lava flowing into Pacific Ocean on Big Island, Hawaii. Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. An LMU team has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.
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Quote:Water-filled micropores in hot rock may have acted as the nurseries in which life on Earth began. A team at Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet (LMU) in Munich has now shown that temperature gradients in pore systems promote the cyclical replication and emergence of nucleic acids.

How and in what habitats did the first life-forms arise on the young Earth? One crucial precondition for the origin of life is that comparatively simple biomolecules must have had opportunities to form more complex structures, which were capable of reproducing themselves and could store genetic information in a chemically stable form. But this scenario requires some means of accumulating the precursor molecules in highly concentrated form in solution. In the early oceans, such compounds would have been present in vanishingly low concentrations. But LMU physicists led by Professor Dieter Braun now describe a setting which provides the necessary conditions. They show experimentally that pore systems on the seafloor that were heated by volcanic activity could have served as reaction chambers for the synthesis of RNA molecules, which serve as carriers of hereditary information in the biosphere today.

"The key requirement is that the heat source be localized on one side of the elongated pore, so that the water on that side is significantly warmer than that on the other," says Braun. Preformed biomolecules that are washed into the pore can then be trapped, and concentrated, by the action of the temperature gradient -- thus fulfilling a major prerequisite for the formation and replication of more complex molecular structures. The molecular trapping effect is a consequence of thermophoresis: Charged molecules in a temperature gradient preferentially move from the warmer to the cooler region, allowing longer polymers in particular to be securely trapped. This is an important factor in the evolution of nucleic acids such as RNA and DNA, simply because longer molecules can store more genetic information.

Recreating rock pores in the laboratory

Braun and his colleagues have shown that this mechanism works in the laboratory: "We used tiny glass capillary tubes to construct an analog of the natural pores found in rock, heated the pore from one side and allowed water containing dissolved fragments of linear DNA of varying lengths to percolate through it. Under such conditions, the long strands are indeed trapped within the pore," Braun explains. "Pores that were exposed to heat are frequently found in igneous rock formations, and they were certainly common in rocks of volcanic origin on the early Earth. So this scenario is quite realistic. And the temperature effect is enhanced by the presence of metal inclusions within the rock, which conduct heat at rates 100 times higher than water."

Temperature gradients and replication

Not only are nucleic acids retained in the pore, they are also capable of replication under these conditions. In the hotter zone, double-stranded strands are separated into its component strands within minutes. The single strands can then be transported by convection -- cyclical flow along the pore perpendicular to the orientation of temperature gradient -- back to the colder region of the pore. Here they encounter the chemical precursors from which each DNA strand is built, which are fed into the pore by a continuous inflow. The preformed strands then act as templates for the polymerization of complementary strands. This cycle makes it possible not only to replicate the strands but also to elongate them by stitching fragments together. When the nucleic acids accumulate to levels beyond the storage capacity of the pore, newly replicated molecules can escape and colonize neighboring pore systems.

Thus, the LMU group has succeeded in constructing a system which permits autonomous and continuous Darwinian evolution of ever more complex biomolecules -- thus defining realistic conditions under which life could in principle have evolved. "Life is fundamentally a thermodynamic non-equilibrium phenomenon. That is why the emergence of the first life-forms requires a local imbalance driven by an external energy source -- for example, by a temperature difference imposed from outside the system," Dieter Braun explains. "That this can be achieved in such a simple and elegant way was surprising even to us. The success of the project is a tribute to the close cooperation between all members of the team."


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You have been caught inserting yourself into this subject on many occasions with your zealotry.

I merely am updating my beliefs on the entirety of it all.
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The world's oldest known snake fossils: Rolling back the clock by nearly 70 million yearsDate:January 27, 2015Source:University of Alberta

Summary:Fossilized remains of four ancient snakes have been dated between 140 and 167 million years old -- nearly 70 million years older than the previous record of ancient snake fossils -- and are changing the way we think about the origins of snakes.

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Artist's conception of three of the four newly identified ancient snakes: (top left) Portugalophis lignites (Upper Jurassic) in a gingko tree, from coal swamp deposits at Guimarota, Portugal; (top right) Diablophis gilmorei (Upper Jurassic), hiding in a ceratosaur skull, from the Morrison Formation in Fruita, Colorado; (bottom) Parviraptor estesi (Upper Jurassic/Lower Cretaceous) swimming in freshwater lake with snails and algae, from the Purbeck Limestone in Swanage, England.
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Quote:Fossilized remains of four ancient snakes between 140 and 167 million years old are changing the way we think about the origin of snakes, and how and when it happened.

The discovery by an international team of researchers, including University of Alberta professor Michael Caldwell, rolls back the clock on snake evolution by nearly 70 million years.

"The study explores the idea that evolution within the group called 'snakes' is much more complex than previously thought," says Caldwell, professor in the Faculty of Science and lead author of the study published today in Nature Communications. "Importantly, there is now a significant knowledge gap to be bridged by future research, as no fossils snakes are known from between 140 to 100 million years ago."

New knowledge from ancient serpents

The oldest known snake, from an area near Kirtlington in Southern England, Eophis underwoodi, is known only from very fragmentary remains and was a small individual, though it is hard to say how old it was at the time it died. The largest snake, Portugalophis lignites, from coal deposits near Guimarota in Portugal, was a much bigger individual at about a metre long. Several of these ancient snakes (Eophis, Portugalophis and Parviraptor) were living in swampy coastal areas on large island chains in western parts of ancient Europe. The North American species, Diablophis gilmorei, was found in river deposits from some distance inland in western Colorado.

This new study makes it clear that the sudden appearance of snakes some 100 million years ago reflects a gap in the fossil record, not an explosive radiation of early snakes. From 167 to 100 million years ago, snakes were radiating and evolving toward the elongated, limb-reduced body shape characterizing the now well known, ~100-90 million year old, marine snakes from the West Bank, Lebanon and Argentina, that still possess small but well-developed rear limbs.

Caldwell notes that the identification of definitive snake skull features reveals that the fossils -- previously associated with other non-snake lizard remains -- represent a much earlier time frame for the first appearance of snakes.

"Based on the new evidence and through comparison to living legless lizards that are not snakes, the paper explores the novel idea that the evolution of the characteristic snake skull and its parts appeared long before snakes lost their legs," he explains.

He adds that the distribution of these newly identified oldest snakes, and the anatomy of the skull and skeletal elements, makes it clear that even older snake fossils are waiting to be found.

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"We're another step closer towards finding the astronomers' holy grail -- an Earth-sized planet with a one year orbit around a star similar to our Sun."

Ancient star system reveals Earth-sized planets forming near start of universe

Date:January 27, 2015

Source:University of Sydney
Summary:A Sun-like star with orbiting planets, dating back to the dawn of the Galaxy, has been discovered by an international team of astronomers. At 11.2 billion years old, it is the oldest star with Earth-sized planets ever found and proves that such planets have formed throughout the history of the Universe.

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Quote:A Sun-like star with orbiting planets, dating back to the dawn of the Galaxy, has been discovered by an international team of astronomers

At 11.2 billion years old, it is the oldest star with Earth-sized planets ever found and proves that such planets have formed throughout the history of the Universe.

The discovery, announced on 28 January (AEDT) in the Astrophysical Journal, used observations made by NASA's Kepler satellite. The scientific collaboration was led by the University of Birmingham and contributed to by the University of Sydney.

The star, named Kepler-444, hosts five planets smaller than Earth, with sizes varying between those of Mercury and Venus.

"We've never seen anything like this -- it is such an old star and the large number of small planets make it very special," said Dr Daniel Huber from the University's School of Physics and an author on the paper.

"It is extraordinary that such an ancient system of terrestrial-sized planets formed when the universe was just starting out, at a fifth its current age. Kepler-444 is two and a half times older than our solar system, which is only a youthful 4.5 billion years old.

"This tells us that planets this size have formed for most of the history of the universe and we are much better placed to understand exactly when this began happening."

Dr Tiago Campante, the research leader from the University of Birmingham said, "We now know that Earth-sized planets have formed throughout most of the Universe's 13.8-billion-year history, which could provide scope for the existence of ancient life in the Galaxy."

Together with their international colleagues the University's astronomy team used asteroseismology to determine the age of the star and planets. This technique measures oscillations -- the natural resonances of the host star caused by sound waves trapped within it.

They lead to miniscule changes or pulses in the star's brightness and allow researchers to measure its diameter, mass, and age. The presence and size of the planets is detected by the dimming that occurs when the planets pass across the face of the star. This fading in the intensity of the light received from the star enables scientists to accurately measure the sizes of the planets relative to the size of the star.

"When asteroseismology emerged about two decades ago we could only use it on the Sun and a few bright stars, but thanks to Kepler we can now apply the technique to literally thousands of stars. Asteroseismology allows us to precisely measure the radius of Kepler-444 and hence the sizes of its planets. For the smallest planet in the Kepler-444 system, which is slightly larger than Mercury, we measured its size with an uncertainty of only 100km," Dr Huber said.

"It was clear early on that we had discovered something very unusual because we had five planets orbiting a very bright star -- one of the brightest Kepler has observed. It is fantastic that we can use asteroseismology to date the star and determine just how old it is.

"In the case of Kepler-444 the planets orbit their parent star in less than 10 days, at less than one-tenth the Earth's distance from the Sun. Their closeness to their host star means they are uninhabitable because of the lack of liquid water and high levels of radiation. Nevertheless, discoveries like Kepler-444 provide important clues on whether a planet that is more truly comparable to Earth may exist. "We're another step closer towards finding the astronomers' holy grail -- an Earth-sized planet with a one year orbit around a star similar to our Sun."


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Improv is a universal approach to itz creator.
It can take any path but it all leads back to the same origin.

Earth was not demoted in the least since copernicus and galileo ...even with Todays Headlines of Keplar-444.

Itz in just the rite place.
Earth is an anomaly.
I'm an anomaly hunter.
Jesus is an anomaly.
But you can't sit in a bird-blind and wait expecting a faithful servant to retrieve him for you.

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There’s Something About Mary…Magdalene (Part 1)

Posted on August 28, 2012 by James Tabor
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Quote:Paul indicates that “seeing the Lord” is an essential criterion for one claiming to be an apostle. According to the book of Acts the main criteria in deciding who would replace Judas Iscariot as the Twelfth apostle after he had betrayed Jesus and killed himself was that the one chosen had been with Jesus in his lifetime and was a “witness to his resurrection.” Not only did Mary Magdalene meet these criteria, she had the additional status of not only being a witness to Jesus’ resurrection but the first witness—even before Peter, James, or any of the Twelve apostles.



Is it probable that Jesus was married?  And that he could have fathered a child?  These claims are in such direct contradiction to our received tradition that it is hard to believe.  Furthermore, there have been such sensational claims in the past, particularly in the famous novel, The DaVinci Code, that it is important to be skeptical and to base any claims on solid evidence.  It is for this reason that in my last book, The Jesus Dynasty, I argued that I did not believe there was sufficient evidence to argue that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and that they had had a child.  But to be a scholar is to remain open to new data and new interpretations and always to be willing to change one’s position.  Based on new evidence, I now believe that my earlier position was most likely mistaken.

Continued...
http://jamestabor.com/2012/08/28/theres-...ne-part-1/
http://jamestabor.com/2012/08/28/theres-...ne-part-2/
http://jamestabor.com/2012/08/28/theres-...ne-part-3/
http://jamestabor.com/2012/08/28/theres-...ne-part-4/





Why wasn't I taught this when I became an Altar Boy @ St.Peter's  Dunno
At least I learn fast and I'm willing to make up for lost time.






Gnostic Scriptures and Fragments

The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene

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An excellent new print edition of the Gospel of Mary of Magdala.

Read Dr. King's introduction to The Gospel of Mary of Magdala 
Archive Notes:
The Gospel of Mary is found in the Berlin Gnostic Codex (or Papyrus Berolinensis 8502, as this ancient collection of Gnostic texts is labeled for archival reasons). This very important and well-preserved codex was apparently discovered in the late-nineteenth century somewhere near Akhmim in upper Egypt. It was purchased in 1896 by a German scholar, Dr. Carl Reinhardt, in Cairo and then taken to Berlin.

The book (or "codex", as these ancient books are called) was probably copied and bound in the late fourth or early fifth century. It contains Coptic translations of three very important early Christian Gnostic texts:  the Gospel of Mary, the Apocryphon of John, and the Sophia of Jesus Christ. The texts themselves date to the second century and were originally authored in Greek. (In academic writing over the last century, this codex is variably and confusingly referenced by scholars as the "Berlin Gnostic Codex", the "Akhmim Codex", PB 8502, and BG 8502).

Despite the importance of the discovery of this ancient collection of Gnostic scriptures, several misfortunes including two world wars delayed its publication until 1955. By then the large Nag Hammadi collection of ancient Gnostic writings had also been recovered. It was found that copies of two of the texts in this codex -- the Apocryphon of John, and the Sophia of Jesus Christ -- had also been preserved in the Nag Hammadi collection.  The texts from the Berlin Gnostic Codex were used to aid and augment translations of the Apocryphon of John and the Sophia of Jesus Christ as they now are published in Nag Hammadi Library.

But more importantly, the codex preserves the most complete surviving fragment of the Gospel of Mary (as the text is named in the manuscript, though it is clear this named Mary is the person we call Mary of Magdala). Two other small fragments of the Gospel of Mary from separate Greek editions were later unearthed in archaeological excavations at Oxyrhynchus in lower Egypt.  (Fragments of the Gospel of Thomas were also found at this ancient site; see the Oxyrhynchus and Gospel of Thomas page for more information about Oxyrhynchus.) Finding three fragments of a text of this antiquity is extremely unusual, and it is thus evidenced that the Gospel of Mary was well distributed in early Christian times and existed in both an original Greek and a Coptic language translation.

Unfortunately the surviving manuscript of the Gospel of Mary is missing pages 1 to 6 and pages 11 to 14 -- pages that included sections of the text up to chapter 4, and portions of chapter 5 to 8.  The extant text of the Gospel of Mary, as found in the Berlin Gnostic Codex, is presented below. The manuscript text begins on page 7, in the middle of a passage.

Further Introductory Material

We highly recommend Karen King's new translation with extended commentary, The Gospel of Mary of Magdala: Jesus and the First Woman Apostle. The Gospel of Mary is also included, along with a useful introduction, in the International Edition of The Nag Hammadi Scriptures (published in 2007).

Without explanatory and background material, it will be impossible for a reader unfamiliar with ancient Gnostic Christian writings to understand the Gospel of Mary. Dr. King's introduction to her book -- which we provide here in preview -- gives an excellent overview of the text of the Gospel of Mary and a discussion about the discovery and surviving manuscript fragments. In subsequent chapters, Dr. King provides the contextual information a reader needs to understand the messages of this important text.

Read Dr. King's introductory chapter from The Gospel of Mary of Magdala: Jesus and the First Woman Apostle.

We also additionally recommend the first three books listed to the left: Mary Magdalene, First Apostle by Ann Brock; The Resurrection of Mary Magdalene: Legends, Apocrypha, and the Christian Testament by Jane Schaberg; and Mary Magdalen, Myth and Metaphor by Susan Haskin. There are many books now available on Mary of Magdala, some of questionable value. These four books are among the best and together offer an overview of the Magdalen in history and myth from a wide variety of perspectives.

Lectures on the The Gospel of Mary Magdalene are also available in our The Gnosis Archive Web Lectures collection.

-- Lance S. Owens


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The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene

[The Gospel of Mary]
Chapter 4
(Pages 1 to 6 of the manuscript, containing chapters 1 - 3, are lost.  The extant text starts on page 7...)

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22) The Savior said, All nature, all formations, all creatures exist in and with one another, and they will be resolved again into their own roots.
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23) For the nature of matter is resolved into the roots of its own nature alone.
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24) He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

25) Peter said to him, Since you have explained everything to us, tell us this also: What is the sin of the world?

26) The Savior said There is no sin, but it is you who make sin when you do the things that are like the nature of adultery, which is called sin.
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27) That is why the Good came into your midst, to the essence of every nature in order to restore it to its root.

28) Then He continued and said, That is why you become sick and die, for you are deprived of the one who can heal you.

29) He who has a mind to understand, let him understand.
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30) Matter gave birth to a passion that has no equal, which proceeded from something contrary to nature. Then there arises a disturbance in its whole body.

31) That is why I said to you, Be of good courage, and if you are discouraged be encouraged in the presence of the different forms of nature.

32) He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

33) When the Blessed One had said this, He greeted them all,saying, Peace be with you. Receive my peace unto yourselves.

34) Beware that no one lead you astray saying Lo here or lo there! For the Son of Man is within you.

35) Follow after Him!

36) Those who seek Him will find Him.

37) Go then and preach the gospel of the Kingdom.

38) Do not lay down any rules beyond what I appointed you, and do not give a law like the lawgiver lest you be constrained by it.

39) When He said this He departed.


Chapter 5
1) But they were grieved. They wept greatly, saying, How shall we go to the Gentiles and preach the gospel of the Kingdom of the Son of Man? If they did not spare Him, how will they spare us?

2) Then Mary stood up, greeted them all, and said to her brethren, Do not weep and do not grieve nor be irresolute, for His grace will be entirely with you and will protect you.

3) But rather, let us praise His greatness, for He has prepared us and made us into Men.

4) When Mary said this, she turned their hearts to the Good, and they began to discuss the words of the Savior.

5) Peter said to Mary, Sister we know that the Savior loved you more than the rest of woman.

6) Tell us the words of the Savior which you remember which you know, but we do not, nor have we heard them.

7) Mary answered and said, What is hidden from you I will proclaim to you.

8) And she began to speak to them these words: I, she said, I saw the Lord in a vision and I said to Him, Lord I saw you today in a vision. He answered and said to me,

9) Blessed are you that you did not waver at the sight of Me. For where the mind is there is the treasure.

10) I said to Him, Lord, how does he who sees the vision see it, through the soul or through the spirit?

11) The Savior answered and said, He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind that is between the two that is what sees the vision and it is [...]

(pages 11 - 14 are missing from the manuscript)


Chapter 8:
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10) And desire said, I did not see you descending, but now I see you ascending. Why do you lie since you belong to me?

11) The soul answered and said, I saw you. You did not see me nor recognize me. I served you as a garment and you did not know me.

12) When it said this, it (the soul) went away rejoicing greatly.

13) Again it came to the third power, which is called ignorance.

14) The power questioned the soul, saying, Where are you going? In wickedness are you bound. But you are bound; do not judge!

15) And the soul said, Why do you judge me, although I have not judged?

16) I was bound, though I have not bound.

17) I was not recognized. But I have recognized that the All is being dissolved, both the earthly things and the heavenly.

18) When the soul had overcome the third power, it went upwards and saw the fourth power, which took seven forms.

19) The first form is darkness, the second desire, the third ignorance, the fourth is the excitement of death, the fifth is the kingdom of the flesh, the sixth is the foolish wisdom of flesh, the seventh is the wrathful wisdom. These are the seven powers of wrath.

20) They asked the soul, Whence do you come slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?

21) The soul answered and said, What binds me has been slain, and what turns me about has been overcome,

22) and my desire has been ended, and ignorance has died.

23) In a aeon I was released from a world, and in a Type from a type, and from the fetter of oblivion which is transient.

24) From this time on will I attain to the rest of the time, of the season, of the aeon, in silence.


Chapter 9
1) When Mary had said this, she fell silent, since it was to this point that the Savior had spoken with her.

2) But Andrew answered and said to the brethren, Say what you wish to say about what she has said. I at least do not believe that the Savior said this. For certainly these teachings are strange ideas.

3) Peter answered and spoke concerning these same things.

4) He questioned them about the Savior: Did He really speak privately with a woman and not openly to us? Are we to turn about and all listen to her? Did He prefer her to us?

5) Then Mary wept and said to Peter, My brother Peter, what do you think? Do you think that I have thought this up myself in my heart, or that I am lying about the Savior?

6) Levi answered and said to Peter, Peter you have always been hot tempered.

7) Now I see you contending against the woman like the adversaries.

8) But if the Savior made her worthy, who are you indeed to reject her? Surely the Savior knows her very well.

9) That is why He loved her more than us. Rather let us be ashamed and put on the perfect Man, and separate as He commanded us and preach the gospel, not laying down any other rule or other law beyond what the Savior said.

10) And when they heard this they began to go forth to proclaim and to preach.
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Quote:Archaeologists Believe They Found Location Where Jesus Christ Taught

Dec 24, 2014, 10:09 AM ETBy LAMA HASAN via GOOD MORNING AMERICA


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Archaeologists in Israel believe they may have uncovered the location where Jesus Christ taught and preached.

The discovery was made in the ancient town of Magdala -- thought to be the hometown of Mary Magdalene -- on the western shore of the sea of Galilee.

Jesus is believed to have spent most of his life in the area.
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If you cave-in to your own dogma  Bricks you couldn't spell it backwards.

Just like if you remove yourself from this vicinity It'll cast my doubt on your divinity.
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Quote:Recovery may be facilitated by a psychological habituation to the visuals, which, in effect, reduces the victim’s inclination to attend to and react negatively to them. The deleterious consequences of the visuals can therefore be reduced even if the HPPD does not disappear.[citation needed]

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55,000-year-old skull links modern man in vicinity of Neanderthals

8 hours ago

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Inside the Manot Cave in Israel's Galilee, where a 55,000-year-old skull sheds new light on modern human migration patterns. Credit: Amos Frumkin / Hebrew University Cave Research Center

Quote:Modern Europeans have inherited about 4 percent of their genes from Neanderthals, meaning the two groups mated at some point in the past. But the question is, where and when?

Characteristics of a partial skull recently discovered in Manot Cave in Israel's West Galilee provide the earliest evidence that modern humans co-inhabited the area with Neanderthals and could have met and interbred 55,000 years ago.

The finding—which challenges a previous hypothesis that the two species potentially met 45,000 years ago somewhere in Europe—is reported in the Advance Online Publication Nature article, "Levantine cranium from Manot Cave (Israel) foreshadows the First European modern humans."

"It has been suspected that modern man and Neanderthals were in the same place at the same time, but we didn't have the physical evidence. Now we do have it in the new skull fossil," said paleontologist Bruce Latimer, from Case Western Reserve University School of Dental Medicine's Department of Orthodontics.

The finding of Neanderthals living at other Levantine sites in the eastern Mediterranean region places the two species in the same area at about the same time. The Manot cave is located in the region where Neanderthals periodically lived, perhaps when ice sheets in Europe forced them to migrate to warmer locales, like the Levant region.

Manot is a prehistoric cave with an impressive archaeological sequence and spectacular speleothems. To date, five excavation seasons (2010-2014) have been conducted in the cave on behalf of the Israel Antiquities Authority, Tel Aviv University and Ben-Gurion University of the Negev. The cave is situated along the only land route available for ancient humans to travel out of Africa to the Middle East, Asia and Europe.

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The interior of the Manot Cave in Israel's Galilee, where a 55,000-year-old skull sheds new light on modern human migration patterns. Credit: Amos Frumkin / Hebrew University Cave Research Center


"Modern humans and Neanderthals likely encountered each other foraging for food," Latimer said.

Latimer and Mark Hans, chair of CWRU's Department of Orthodontics, were among a team of researchers that worked closely with the study's lead investigator Israel Hershkovitz, professor of anatomy and anthropology at Tel Aviv University.

The partial cranium, covered in a patina of minerals produced by the wet conditions within the cave, allowed Miryam Bar-Matthews , Avner Ayalon and Gal Yas'ur from the Geological Survey of Israel to use uranium-thorium dating techniques and determine that the skull was between 50,000 to 60,000 years old.

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The computer-tomographic version of the Manot specimen and the Manot Cave in the background are depicted. Credit: Copyright: Gerhard Weber

Latimer said the skull contained a relatively small brain of around 1,100 milliliters. (The modern human brain averages around 1,400 milliliters.)

Several features of the cranium resemble modern man's skull, Latimer said. In particular, he was interested in the cranium's bony formation called the occipital bun on the back of the skull. While its purpose is unknown, the Neanderthal's bun looks much like a bony hot dog bun with a groove down the center. This feature was absent in the Manot fossil, and is also typically missing in modern humans.

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Prof. Amos Frumkin from Hebrew University's Cave Research Center descends into the Manot Cave in Israel's Galilee, where a 55,000-year-old skull sheds new light on human migration patterns. Credit: Hebrew University Cave Research Center

The fossil's gender is unknown because it's missing the brow ridge, one marker for gender differences. Because the skull is from an adult, CWRU researchers know it is not related to other sub-adult human teeth and bones also found in the cave, according to Hans.

"This leads us to believe that there are likely more fossils in the cave where other bones associated with the skull might be found," Hans said.

Latimer became involved in the project after receiving an invitation from Hershkovitz to examine the fossil skull, discovered in 2008 by spelunkers who had rappelled through a newly opened roof of the previously unknown cave that had been sealed for 30,000 years.

The Continuum.
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The Future-Suture.
The Manot calotte (original) is in the top view. Well visible are the skull sutures and the brownish calcite patina. Credit: Copyright: Gerhard Weber

Under the direction of former dental school Dean Jerold Goldberg, Case Western Reserve formed a 10-year partnership with Israel Antiquities Authority and Tel Aviv University in 2012 to excavate the cave. As a result of this partnership, Latimer joined Hans to expand the scope of orthodontic research on craniofacial growth and development to include human evolution. The Manot Cave project also is part of Case Western Reserve's initiative, called the Institute for the Science of Origins (ISO).

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The Manot specimen is on the computer screen, in lateral view (left) and from inside (right). Credit: Copyright: Gerhard Weber

"Who we are, where we came from and how we got here are questions that have fascinated us humans since before there was history," said Glenn Starkman, director of ISO and professor of physics, who studies origins of the universe.
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"We weaved wondrous myths that answered those questions definitively, but now we slowly accumulate evidence from the distant past. This process lies at the heart of the origins sciences, and the Institute for the Science of Origins celebrates the unique interdisciplinary collaboration that its fellows from the School of Dental Medicine deployed to uncover more of the story behind humanity's departure from Africa for the world beyond."

Explore further: Study claims cave art made by Neanderthals

More information: Levantine cranium from Manot Cave (Israel) foreshadows the first European modern humans, Nature, DOI: 10.1038/nature14134

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Whose hand was at work here?
And in what relation did the author sit to the left or right of the dias? Dunno Ideas? Hmm2
We'll never know because Judas tells no tales...

This is Nat-Geo on The Gospel of Judas.

If you were like me 7777...you'd read it and weep. Mellow

Foursevens sake!!!
WATCH/weep.


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My Jesus Acts like a kid sometimes. What about Yours7777?

My Dad Loved Nat-Geo specials.What about Yours foursevens.

That's your new nickname so EYE can say Foursevens sake!!!
(rhymes with: For heaven's sake!!!) Reefer

Will Judas be  Devil tainted/sainted  Mellow

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#52
And A Mary Magdalene Reconsidered.

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As Migdal is further unearthed.
And We utilise the tools of the trade... Archaeological Jesus.
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The "problem" with the Bible is, how much of it has fallen to the censors? We know that the Catholic Church cast many parts of it aside, but how much more was deleted? Mary Magdalene was an important part of Jesus life, however if we look at history, how likely is it that a lot of what she did, maybe even wrote, was censored or deleted purely because she was a woman. I mean, even in these, supposedly, modern times, the voice of women in Arabic Countries is not heard.
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The "Bible" (as such) did not exist prior to Constantine's Council of Nicea, only various writings by many
authors.

Since Constantine had chosen  "Christianity" as the state sponsored religion (for whatever reason), he
sought to further control the implementation of that religion by providing all participants with a uniform
set of reference writings. The message had to be simple, clear and understandable by an uneducated
population.

And it had to give the message that one needed that religion to commune with God. You couldn't do that on
your own and thinking that way was heretical.

Many of the available references were not used and were rejected.

Thus, he was the driving force in actually creating a bound library of "acceptable" writings to which the
populace could have access. Thus the "Bible" was created.


It was not until the recent discovery (last 50 years or so) of what has become known as the Nag Hammadi
writings (and others) and their translation into english that we have been able to understand the critical
juncture that was The Council of Nicea.

It was really a battle of two philosophies, Gnostcism vs Central control.
And even though Christ himself said “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say,
‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:20-21), indicating the
potential existence of individulized communion with God; the hierarchy of the church with all its (man
made) requirements became the path for salvation.

Mary Magdalene carried on this philosophy (as did other women of the time) and were seen as a direct threat
to the centralized control. Thus the fabricated stories within certain Biblical text indicating that she
was possessed by demons and was a prostitute. Character assassination by religion.

She was Christ's favorite, why...? In his own words, in the last moments of his earthly existence and from
up on the cross....


Source:  Nag Hammadi papers

Gospel of Philip: There were three who always walked with the Lord: Mary his mother and her sister and Magdalene, the one who was called his companion. His sister and his mother and his companion were each a Mary

So the following from John should probably read:

Gospel of John: 25Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your [daughter]," 27and to the disciple, "Here is your mother." From that time on, this disciple took her into [her] home.

Two simple words with totally different meanings.

Personally, and given the history of the church towards children, I'm more comfortable with Jesus loving a woman than a man.



It always was and always will be about "control".






Mellow
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.<br />Aldous Huxley
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#55
These philosophies clearly seek to take 'God' out of the picture entirely.
If you must have Him out so He can be replaced by the devices of man, then you must discount His hand in the process, and so it becomes possible to bring everything into question as being nothing but a device of control.

Then we are brought straight to the bottom line. A rather simple choice, if not entirely pristine.

Pascal's Wager.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

Ah! But the fly in the buttermilk...........sincerity. 
So, the words Autumn and Fall are not to be capitalized?
They are in my world!

What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; and there is nothing new under the sun.
Is there a thing of which it is said, "See, this is new?"It has been already, in the ages before us. Ecc 1: 9-10
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"These philosophies clearly seek to take 'God' out of the picture entirely."

Dunno

Please specify, what philosophies?

If you are speaking of Gnosticism, seems to me that a direct link to God is much better than going through an intermediary. (That old "Thou shall have no other Gods before me" type thing).

The only thing that comes to mind is the concept of certain writings being "divinely" inspired concerning "His hand in the process".

So, if you will, please elaborate a bit.

Mellow
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Pascal's Wager

I'm calling heads.


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(01-31-2015, 01:05 PM)alemos link Wrote:"These philosophies clearly seek to take 'God' out of the picture entirely."

Dunno

Please specify, what philosophies?

If you are speaking of Gnosticism, seems to me that a direct link to God is much better than going through an intermediary. (That old "Thou shall have no other Gods before me" type thing).

The only thing that comes to mind is the concept of certain writings being "divinely" inspired concerning "His hand in the process".

So, if you will, please elaborate a bit.

Mellow
 
Well, for one.

Your use of such phraseology above "Certain" writings being "divinely inspired" at once defines it all.
It casts doubt concerning the "Certain ones that are not. Which are they in the canonized result? Was it not divinely established? Thus the seed is planted.
It is just that easily done.
Either God had a hand in it from start to finish so it comes down to us as He chose it to be imparted , or it has not.
Was He absent at Nicea? Convince yourself of that, and all falls into doubt.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Now some insist that can only be applied to the Torah. If so, the hope was never fulfilled as recorded in the message of the Gospels. There is no intermediator between God and man as yet, neither has man a finite truth imparted by God. Believe as you will, perhaps there is no deceiver to influence 'Gnostic' knowledge?
In the 1700 years since Nicea, God has not chosen to step in to correct the errors man's best efforts introduced? We've been on our own all this time?
A slippery slope that.

I think the Gospels are confirmed in 'The Sevens', watch the link given previously. Don't know if anyone has run a test on the books of the apocrypha (Non canonized writings) for such features.
Unless Missler is flat out lying (I think he'd have been called out on it by now), something far beyond human experience had a hand in the writings as found in the Gospels, as well as the Torah.
So, the words Autumn and Fall are not to be capitalized?
They are in my world!

What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; and there is nothing new under the sun.
Is there a thing of which it is said, "See, this is new?"It has been already, in the ages before us. Ecc 1: 9-10
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(01-31-2015, 06:04 AM)The Watcher link Wrote:The "problem" with the Bible is, how much of it has fallen to the censors? We know that the Catholic Church cast many parts of it aside, but how much more was deleted? Mary Magdalene was an important part of Jesus life, however if we look at history, how likely is it that a lot of what she did, maybe even wrote, was censored or deleted purely because she was a woman. I mean, even in these, supposedly, modern times, the voice of women in Arabic Countries is not heard.

Today's news with redacted views.
Hmm2 Where did your Post Go Mayito?  Dunno
Imagine if this was a report we had to rely on. Hmm2

The man has been --- on allegations of aiding --- in ---, they said, adding that she is pregnant with his child.

“What we are dealing with here are literally the children of ---,” said a high-ranking ---.


--- in --- lifts veil on life of ----'s ex-wife, ---.


The investigation of --- leader ---'s wife shows how some women are taking bigger roles in ---

---  For months, the ex-wife of perhaps the most wanted man in --- used --- as a base to secretly transfer --- to ---, according to --- officials.

She concealed her identity with false documents, which --- her as a --- citizen named ---, the officials said. Eventually, they said, they discovered that she was ---, an ---i who had been briefly married six years ago to the man who now heads the ---, . In November, the --- detained --- with a girl who is ---'s biological daughter, the officials said.

The investigation into --- has shed light on the murky ways in which --- move --- through the Middle East. It has also illustrated how the families of --- and --- are quietly settling in ---, hiding in refu­gee camps and the occasional --- village. And it has yielded an intriguing profile of someone who defies the image of submissive women in the --- world.

--- has had at least three husbands and lived in several countries in the region, according to --- officials. They described her as strong-willed and independent. ---officials said she transferred --- over the past year to --- operating along --- border with ---.
“She’s not your stereotypical woman” in the world of ---, said ---, a --- at the --- School of ---. He described her profile as that of an “honorary --- man” in the eyes of such groups.

More such women are carrying out --- and helping to collect intelligence and distribute --- for --- groups, he said.
For ---, her case points to the challenge posed by the families of --- and --- who have moved here. --- has been charged in a --- court with --- and has been denied access to a ---.
Culture of ---

---, who is in her 30s, was based in the impoverished --- city of --- on the --- border, --- officials said. She blended in easily in a makeshift encampment for --- refugees, who outnumber the ---,000 locals, a resident of the city said.
“There are lots of people in these areas so she lived anonymously while she was here,” said the resident, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of concern for his safety.

Another --- of --- said the town was home to many family members of ---in ---.
“We all know that the wives and families of the --- and --- are living in ---, because they don’t have any other place to put them,” said the resident, who spoke on the condition that she be identified only by her first name, ---.
About six years ago, --- officials said, --- married ---, who is originally from ---, a city north of ---. The marriage lasted for only about three months, said ---, a prominent elder from --- province who is from the same tribe as ---, in an interview.
 
--- officials said the union was pushed by ---’s father, ---. Marriages in --- tribal area can be politically motivated affairs, aimed at cementing ties between families, and --- may have sought an alliance with --- at a time when the younger man and other --- were incensed by the --- occupation and were gravitating to ---, the precursor to the group currently occupying ---.


But ---, an analyst based in ---, said that it could have been --- who pushed for the union, given the prominence of ---'s tribe. He noted that --- tradition allows for relatively easy divorce, making a breakup fairly simple.

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The --- officials described ---, who does not veil her face,as:
strikingly beautiful.  She was combative during recent ---, they said.

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“It’s because she’s committed to her beliefs,” said one of the officials involved with her case, referring to the --- cause. Like other officials interviewed for this article, he spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing a lack of authorization to discuss the issue.


According to --- officials, analysts and --- reports, --- had been married to another --- before --- and had two sons from that relationship. Her daughter with --- is thought to be about 5 years old.
--- officials said that multiple members of ---'s family have participated in --- activities in --- and ---.
---, her father, eventually pledged allegiance to the ---, they said. He was killed more than a year ago while --- near the --- city of ---, according to officials.

About that time, they said, --- was apprehended by --- government --- near ---, where she had been living with her father and sister. In ---, she was among 150 people whom the --- - freed in a ---  with --- linked to ---, who handed over a group of ---, the officials said.
She then moved to ---.
Children of ---

Authorities said --- moved --- to --- operating along --- border with ---. In ---, the --- — linked to the --- and --- — besieged --- while --- was living there. The --- withdrew to --- several days later, taking more than 20 --- as ---.
--- received at least --- via --- agencies and charity ---, then distributed---, said a senior --- official, who also has been involved with ---'s interrogations at the --- compound near ---.
Some of the --- came from residents of --- countries, he said, adding that it was sent to organizations ---“work under the cover of aid for --- refugees.”
--- could more easily move the --- to --- because she is a woman, said ---, a --- analyst who is close to --- officials.

Conservative traditions make ---, most of them male, wary of --- women and girls at --- and ---, he said.
“Groups like --- use women to exploit these traditions to their advantage, just like --- did,” --- said.
--- discovered ---'s activities through a --- from a ---, said the --- officials, who declined to identify the ---.
The senior --- said --- tests were carried out on --- and the young girl after they were detained in November. He added that the --- of --- were obtained with assistance from an unspecified ---. A decade ago, --- was imprisoned in --- by --- forces. --- may have been collected from detainees at the time. Last month, --- Minister --- announced on --- that --- was a former wife of --- and that the girl was his daughter.

--- authorities have apprehended family members of other --- linked to organizations such as the ---. They include the wife and children of an ----affiliated --- named ---, known as ---, a nom de guerre. His family, all ---, were detained recently while living in a predominantly --- village in northern ---. His wife has not been ---, and it appears she was not involved in --- activities. The authorities may be holding the family as --- for the release of the --- in ---, allegedly with ---'s involvement.
Last month, --- to --- women and children if authorities did not --- his family.

--- is not known to have issued any such --- after his daughter and ex-wife were ---. As for ---, she moved on to another relationship, --- officials said.

After she arrived in --- last year, she linked up with a man from a --- refu­gee camp who had a history of --- activity, --- officials said.

The man has been --- on allegations of aiding --- in ---, they said, adding that she is pregnant with his child.

“What we are dealing with here are literally the children of ---,” said a high-ranking ---.
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"Pascal's Wager" could be applied to the Magdalene as well.
For if She wasn't the first witness to the resurrection then who was she?
If Jesus was in on it from the start...then so was she.
And if anyone should be heard first-hand as an account is it: Matthew, Mark,Luke or John? Hmm2

Jesus appearantly spoke...but never writ.

That goes against improv because it writes itself.

I Never gamble with Improv. Naughty

God Gambled with his creation So they could bet against the house?
After eden an improvisation was needed.

Where is the Magdalene's first-hand testimony?

If Jesus had a wife/companion and procreated...
you would lose nothing in your faith nor would any possible descendants of his.
In fact They would be forced to Wager as well because they are once removed from the facts.
The Wager therefore can be transferred to a different persona.

Call it the Witness Paradox.
If Jesus was in on it from the start...then so was she.


Pascal's wager is now termed The Magdalene Wager for those of the betting kind.
Would it eternally end your life if Jesus had a wife?

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Pascal,Eh? Hmm2

Jesus was not interred in a Pauper's grave...
This next "Thought Experiment" exhumes Popper from his ideological grave proper.

In the new experiment, the randomly paired photons have two different yet indistinguishable probabilities to be simultaneously annihilated at [b]two distant photodetectors.(Magdalene's "Eyes".)

The observations are the result of the superposition of these two probability amplitudes.
[/b]

Popper's experiment realized again—but what does it mean?
Jan 27, 2015 by Lisa Zyga

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Illustration of Popper’s experiment realized with randomly paired photons in a thermal state. In the second set-up, there is no “slit B” for the photon on the right. The new results show that this photon is not affected by a measurement on the left photon (which does travel through a slit), in agreement with Popper’s prediction. Credit: Tao Peng, et al. ©2015 EPLA

Quote:(Phys.org)—Like Einstein, the philosopher Karl Popper was a realist who was deeply bothered by some of the odd implications of quantum mechanics. Both Popper and Einstein disliked the idea in Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, for instance, that precisely measuring one property of a particle means that the particle's conjugate property is completely undetermined. This idea undermines the basic principle of common-sense realism: that every particle's properties must have precise pre-existing values, which do not depend on being measured.

Both Popper and Einstein proposed thought experiments critiquing the uncertainty principle. But while Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen's EPR experiment is quite famous, Popper's experiment is not as widely known.

Popper first published his proposed experiment in 1934, and in 1999, physicists Yoon-Ho Kim and Yanhua Shih realized Popper's experiment for the first time. In what came as a surprise to many, their results agreed with Popper's predictions, yet are not generally considered to be a true violation of the uncertainty principle, as Popper believed. The findings ignited a great deal of critique, both of Popper's original ideas and how they might be realized and interpreted.

Now in a new study published in EPL, Shih and coauthors at the University of Maryland in Baltimore and Oakland Community College in Waterford, Michigan, have again realized Popper's experiment using a different approach. Once again, their results agree with Popper's predictions, yet still do not violate the uncertainty principle. However, the researchers explain that the results do reveal a concern about nonlocal interference, as the observations suggest that a pair of particles is instantaneously interfering with itself, even across large distances.

Tale of two particles

The uncertainty principle places a fundamental limit on the precision with which conjugate pairs of physical properties of a particle, such as position and momentum, can be determined simultaneously. Mathematically, this means ?py?y ? h, where p and y are the momentum and position of a particle, and h (Planck's constant) is the minimum amount of uncertainty required.

In his thought experiment, Popper considered what the uncertainty principle might mean for a pair of particles that are entangled, meaning the particles have both position-position correlation and momentum-momentum correlation with one another. The EPR thought experiment, published in 1935, similarly considered the case of an entangled pair of particles.

Theoretically, if the position or momentum of one entangled particle is measured, then this knowledge can be used to instantly determine the position or momentum of the second particle—and with exact certainty, since the particles' properties are inherently correlated.

Popper wondered what would happen if the position of one of the entangled particles were restricted within a narrow slit, ?y. Even if no slit were placed in the way of the second particle, the position of the second particle would also be restricted within the narrow range of ?y, due to the position-position correlation between the two particles. In this case, would the second particle be "diffracted" by a nonexistent "slit" in order to preserve ?py?y ? h?

Popper believed no, that the diffraction of the second particle would happen only in the case of a real slit, and not by a nonexistent "slit." He predicted that, without the use of a real slit, the second particle should not be diffracted at all. However, this prediction means that the second particle's position has a precise value, so that ?py?y < h. Popper considered this result a violation of the uncertainty principle, as it seems to show that the uncertainty is less than the minimum requirement.

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Illustration of the new experimental set-up used to realize Popper’s experiment. One entangled photon travels through slit A, while the other travels a different path through slit B, which can be adjusted to be the same width as slit A or wide open. Credit: Tao Peng, et al. ©2015 EPLA

"Perhaps, deep in his mind, Popper could never accept the idea that the measurement of the position of particle one JESUS can simultaneously affect the position of particle two,MARY" Shih told Phys.org.

Ghost imaging experiments

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Popper's experiment can be realized in a couple different ways. Kim and Shih's 1999 experiment was performed using entangled photon pairs generated by a spontaneous parametric down-conversion (SPDC) source, which is commonly used to generate entangled particles.

In that experiment, Kim and Shih first confirmed that the entangled photon pair can achieve a position-position correlation by means of a technique called ghost imaging. In ghost imaging, the two entangled particles can "image" a real slit from the path of photon one onto the path of photon two at a distance, creating a so-called "ghost slit" for photon two. While photon one is restricted within the real slit, photon two must also be instantly restricted within the ghost slit.

Kim and Shih then compared their measured diffraction pattern from the ghost slit with the diffraction pattern of a real slit in place of the ghost slit. It was a surprise to everyone, including Kim and Shih, that their experiment agreed with Popper's prediction: the diffraction pattern from the ghost slit was much narrower than that of the real slit. Just as Popper had predicted, particle two was not affected by a measurement made on particle one.

In the new paper, Shih and his coauthors observed the same results, but instead of using entangled photon pairs, they used randomly paired photons in a thermal state. Using similar ghost imaging technology, the physicists confirmed that the randomly paired photons in the thermal state are able to produce a ghost slit at a distance. They then compared their measured diffraction pattern from the ghost slit with the diffraction pattern from a real slit in place of the ghost slit. It was a surprise again to find that the new experimental results agree with Popper's prediction.

The important difference with the second experiment is that the randomly paired photons do not have any pre-prepared entanglement, which means they are considered to be a classical system. This raises the question, how could a classical system produce the same result as a quantum system? Shih is confident that they will soon find an answer.

Uncertainty preserved, nonlocality in question

Although it may seem like the above two experiments violate the uncertainty principle because the results show a smaller-than-required degree of uncertainty, Shih and his coauthors explain that no violation has occurred due to the fact that the experiments involve photon pairs rather than individual photons. The scientists argue that Popper's original thought experiment was based on a misunderstanding of the proper context of the uncertainty principle: it governs the behavior of single particles only, not the "correlation" of two particles.

In a sense, the entire thought experiment is flawed, at least in terms of what it means for the uncertainty principle. However, the researchers think that Popper's (and EPR's) concern about the nonlocal correlation of distant particles is still reasonable and fundamentally sound.

As the researchers explain, the results of Popper's experiment still reveal some important insight because the observations suggest that the photon pair is interfering with itself instantaneously in a phenomenon called nonlocal interference. In the new experiment, the randomly paired photons have two different yet indistinguishable probabilities to be simultaneously annihilated at two distant photodetectors. The observations are the result of the superposition of these two probability amplitudes. In this sense, the physicists explain that the same question that faced Popper and Einstein is still facing physicists today, which is, how long does it take for nonlocal interference to occur?

"Assuming the two random photons are separated by one light-year, how long does it take to force particle two to appear at a certain position after observing the first particle?" Shih said. "In the view of quantum mechanics—specifically, the theory of two-photon interference—a precise measurement of the position of a particle would instantly determine the position of its entangled twin at a distance. As a believer of realism and relativity, Popper had to ask these questions, similar to Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen."

In addition to the analysis in this latest paper, there have been a wide variety of other criticisms of Popper's experiment over the past few decades. Although Popper's experiment may not have been the perfect way to test the uncertainty principle, it has nevertheless succeeded in opening new perspectives on a model of the world that may never be completely understood.

Explore further: Duality principle is 'safe and sound': Researchers clear up apparent violation of wave-particle duality

More information: Tao Peng, et al. "Popper's experiment with randomly paired photons in thermal state." EPL. DOI: 10.1209/0295-5075/109/14003

Yoon-Ho Kim and Yanhua Shih. "Experimental Realization of Popper's Experiment: Violation of the Uncertainty Principle?" Found. Phys., 29 (1999) 1849 http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023...8890316979


http://phys.org/news/2015-01-popper-againbut.html
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Well Foursevens sake!  Damned

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Was the Immaculate Conception an:

[move] Chase "Into Existence Popper?"[/move]
There are virtual known precedents of this phenomena that give the concept two feet to stand on itz merits.

"A Ghost Slit?" Hmm2

Quote:Popper's experiment can be realized in a couple different ways. Kim and Shih's 1999 experiment was performed using entangled photon pairs generated by a spontaneous parametric down-conversion (SPDC) source, which is commonly used to generate entangled particles.

In that experiment, Kim and Shih first confirmed that the entangled photon pair can achieve a position-position correlation by means of a technique called ghost imaging. In ghost imaging, the two entangled particles can "image" a real slit [sup]from the path of photon one[/sup] [sub]onto the path of photon two[/sub] at a distance, creating a so-called "ghost slit" for photon two. While photon one is restricted within the real slit, photon two must also be instantly restricted within the ghost slit.

Kim and Shih then compared their measured diffraction pattern from the ghost slit with the diffraction pattern of a real slit in place of the ghost slit. It was a surprise to everyone, including Kim and Shih, that their experiment agreed with Popper's prediction: the diffraction pattern from the ghost slit was much narrower than that of the real slit. Just as Popper had predicted, particle two was not affected by a measurement made on particle one.

In the new paper, Shih and his coauthors observed the same results, but instead of using entangled photon pairs, they used randomly paired photons in a thermal state. Using similar ghost imaging technology, the physicists confirmed that the randomly paired photons in the thermal state are able to produce a ghost slit at a distance. They then compared their measured diffraction pattern from the ghost slit with the diffraction pattern from a real slit in place of the ghost slit. It was a surprise again to find that the new experimental results agree with Popper's prediction.

The important difference with the second experiment is that the randomly paired photons do not have any pre-prepared entanglement, which means they are considered to be a classical system. This raises the question, how could a classical system produce the same result as a [glow=red,2,300]quantum system[/glow]? Shih is confident that they will soon find an answer. Mellow

Uncertainty preserved, nonlocality in question

Don't kid yourself  Naughty full-scope works.

Long in dust... can Longinus still poke us with the Weak measurement? Dunno
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Newfound 'Gospel of the Lots of Mary' Discovered in Ancient Text

A 1,500-year-old book that contains a previously unknown gospel has been deciphered. The ancient manuscript may have been used to provide guidance or encouragement to people seeking help for their problems, according to a researcher who has studied the text.

Written in Coptic, an Egyptian language, the opening reads (in translation):

"The Gospel of the lots of Mary, the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ, she to whom Gabriel the Archangel brought the good news. He who will go forward with his whole heart will obtain what he seeks. Only do not be of two minds."

Read the full article at:

http://www.livescience.com/49673-newfoun...hered.html
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Well Foursevens sake!  Damned



FS

Thanks for the heads up on  "The Sevens" phenomenon.

Listened to the video you posted earlier with amazement.

Always knew there were many references to the number 7, but never realized how extensive it was.

There was one key statement though that interested me as to a possible explanation.
Missler indicated that the original research was done on a Greek text. AND, that both Hebrew and Greek
were similar. That in of itself may be the key.

We do know that (for at least the first 5 books of the Bible, or the Torah), whatever the source of the
document was, it has remained unchanged since its origin. I remember reading about very specific tests
that would be made by Jewish scribes in copied examples of the original that must be satisfied to insure
absolute consistency over time.

Plus, we also have the Bible Code phenomenon, which to me is mind blowing in of itself. The text of the
Torah seems to contain everything; past, present and future.

And agreed, there does seem to be a fixation with "Sevens" in both the Old and New Testaments.

http://www.betemunah.org/seven.html

But what does it mean?

(Aside from the most obvious association with God, of course)

I believe it may (also) be a pointer to something else.

The Pleiades , or Seven Sisters (Messier 45 or M45), is an open star cluster containing middle-aged hot
B-type stars located in the constellation of Taurus. It is among the nearest star clusters to Earth and is
the cluster most obvious to the naked eye in the night sky.

They are mentioned three times in the Bible (

Job 9:99 Who makes the Bear, Orion and the Pleiades, And the chambers of the south;
and 38:31, Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades? Can you loosen Orion's belt?

as well as

Amos 5:8). He who made the Pleiades and Orion, who turns midnight into dawn and darkens day into night,
who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out over the face of the land-- the LORD is his name.

This identification with "Orion" (most frequently) and The Pleiades (more generally) is prolific
throughout history. Sirius, also mentioned frequently in the past, is within the same general area.


As an aside, or perhaps also related is the following:

https://jimmyprophet.wordpress.com/2011/...oogle-sky/


You may think this is another of those conspiracy theories which therefore makes the premise null and
void, but this is true about the blank spot. I've checked it myself and so can anyone.
There is a deliberate blank spot on Google Sky in the neighborhood of the Sirius/Orion/Pleiades clusters.

This is the same area of the sky which has had tremendous historical interest.
And has been (I believe) the reason for many cultures building observatories, either enclosed (like the
Mayans) or exposed (Stone Henge) etc.

Either by legend or actual documentation handed down, (IMO) they were tracking a rougue planetary body
which comes into the solar system periodically. Call it The Twelth Planet, Nemisis, Nibiru, Planet X or
whatever you wish.

It had them concerned enough to build, all over the world, stone devices to track the movement of the
heavens because they knew the potentially destructive power of the object.

Turns out, this "blacked out area" seems to be the exact region that could indicate its return.

Ever since reading Sitchin, have always thought the Sphinx was erected in Egypt to watch the horizon for
same. And is there as an ever present reminder for us.

It all seems to continually go back to the Anunnaki. Dunno



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Don't know about the Anunnaki.
There is something there to be certain, but my suspicion about them runs dark.
Gods to early post flood men.
Part of a well laid out plan, millennia old.
As the Greek mythology is so closely parallel to Genesis 6: 1-4, and the unnatural creatures depicted everywhere at the highest levels in all early cultures echo the words in genesis 6:12 and do those point directly to a program of genetic engineering in the days before the biblical flood that would see it eventually  visited on the earth, were the Anunnaki central to it all in some way? But are they as we imagine? Do they play a ruse, not actually a culture from another world?
Are they rather part of a deception to be played out against ourselves in the end. Already, and always here waiting to deceive the world?
Never our friends or our gods I think. Rather the very minions of Hell?
So, the words Autumn and Fall are not to be capitalized?
They are in my world!

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"There is something there to be certain, but my suspicion about them (Anunnaki) runs dark."

As does mine.

It is interesting that you mentioned Greek Mythology. About a week or so ago, I was watching some movie about the same (Wrath of the Titans or some such), and the old light bulb went off.

The characters were all familiar, Gods with special powers, half God half humans, Giant creatures, hellish other creatures, etc etc.

And I suddenly realized that we've heard this same story over and over in different cultures beginning with the Sumerians and the Anunnaki.

The names of the characters are different, the geographical locations are different, the time periods are different, but it always seems to be a similar story.

These guys seem to be behind the scenes, fighting amongst themselves and using us for cannon fodder against their enemies.

If the Sumerian King lists are accurate, they've been around for at least 242,000 or so. Ample time to have established themselves here.

There should be some physical evidence of their technology or some trace of their existence. I do not believe it was all destroyed in the flood.

There are some indications (IMO) in IRAQ which may be linked to them. And there may be other areas around the world that exhibit remains. But like Mars, these objects may have been coated with mud and silt which has, over time, solidified into a rock like covering.

Thus the evidence exists in plain sight, but is unrecognizeable because of this covering and perhaps, because of its size.

Examination of that idea would take another thread.

"But are they as we imagine? Do they play a ruse, not actually a culture from another world?"

Have you read any concerning the Archons? This myth, legend or whatever one wishes to call it may be related.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/hypostas.html

http://www.jayweidner.com/Archons.html


Scary stuff
Dunno



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