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To point the HiRise camera.. Some results are in!
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This topic was started with a different title and intent but became what it is presently named, for those of you who wish to point the MRO cameras, read on in and learn how, then review our own results at the threads end.
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I’d like a pick to view in memory of David Wynn-Willaims.
We could call it.....
In Absence of a Rayman, Looking for Something In Plain Site

It might go something like below, hope you get my drift and yeah it’s still Bucky Balls.. Remember I was the one that earlier on asked if there was some confluent and up to date Martian topo map. Ha ! I’m sure you guys have one layin around some where. I need help picking areas that would fit this model. As well as suggestions as to the most appropriate tool for the job, so to speak.

Please help me do my homework..

Signed,
Hrm
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Otherwise known as her royal …

Area might look something like this (not great but okay example)

[Image: carbonateenvirons.gif]

http://natmus.uio.no/svalex/svalbard_fo ... 3A_col.jpg

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Seeking presence of

Peloids
Fullerenes
Cyanobacteria

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Analogous Models

Geological and paleobiological attributes described in a
carbonate unit from the upper Silurian of the Middle Atlas
(Morocco) are interpreted as the result of chemosynthetic
processes fueled by fluid seepage. These attributes include
the presence of authigenic carbonate accumulation embed-
ded in siliciclastic rocks; tightly packed, monospecific
megafaunal assemblages (atrypid brachiopods); microbial-
derived products; precipitation of bio-induced minerals (e
pecially hematite); and seep-derived carbonate phases. Ev
idence of in-situ growth of the dense brachiopod communi-
ties is that their shells are all articulated, and show a com-
plete range of growth sizes. Products of microbial activity
are shared with other fossil seep deposits and include clot-
ted micrite concentrations, crusts, and laminated struc-
best-developed microbial features were recovered in reddish
mudstone beds below and within the brachiopod concentra-
tions, where they consist of complex microbial frames mor-
phologically comparable to the ones produced by Beggiatoa
mats in modern chemosynthesis-based environments.
These remnant mats are associated with early hematite
precipitation, which has permitted their extensive mineral
ization and, consequently, the preservation of their strati-
graphic relationships with the shell accumulations. Car
bonate phases such as botryoids, splayed calcite, and stro-
matactoids form the infilling of cavity systems and micro-
conduits. Repeated events of mineral precipitation and
corrosion are documented in botryoids and stromatactoids,
as well as in more extensive corrosion surfaces, as a result of
changes in the ambient chemistry related to type and
changing intensity of the seeping fluids. This carbonate
unit is the oldest-known seep-derived unit, with a well pre-
served, voluminous, and diverse microbial component.

http://tinyurl.com/gedra

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Intensively studied PTB sections in south China, such as
the GSSP atMeishan, primarily are condensed sections from
deep-water, basin environments that contain a thin (,30
cm) boundary horizon of claystone and lime-mudstone or
marl. The sections reported herein are fundamentally different
in that they consist of shallow-marine carbonate facies,
contain a thick boundary horizon composed of calcimicrobial
framestone, and lack evidence of an abrupt shift in depositional
environment or water depth. The calcimicrobial framestone
boundary horizon occurs in all of the isolated carbonate
platforms in the Nanpanjiang Basin. A similar microbial
facies has been found in the basal Triassic H. parvus
zone in the Sichuan Basin and in Japan. Distribution of the
calcimicrobial framestone suggests that it may represent an
anomalous oceanic event that affected a vast area of the equatorial
eastern Tethys and Panthalassa during and/or immediately
following the end-Permian mass extinction. The
persistence of similar calcimicrobial framestone horizons
into the Upper Scythian suggests that detrimental environmental
conditions associated with the extinction persisted
until the end of the Scythian. Further study of these sections
promises to provide constraints on causes of the extinction
and the environments in the aftermath.

Permian–Triassic Boundary Sections from Shallow-Marine Carbonate Platforms of the Nanpanjiang Basin, South China: Implications for
Oceanic Conditions Associated with the End-Permian Extinction and Its Aftermath
LEHRMANN; PAYNE; FELIX; DILLETT; WANG, YOUYI YU, and JIAYONG WEI

http://www.uwosh.edu/faculty_staff/lehr ... 202003.pdf

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This study was conducted in subtidal areas around Lee Stocking Island, Bahamas, to investigate how microalgal biomass and community structure affect hyperspectral reflectance of sediments. Hyperspectral reflectance was measured on the surfaces of sediment cores collected from several types of carbonate sediments and habitats. Subsequently, photosynthetic and photoprotective pigments within the microalgae colonizing the top 5 mm of the sediment cores were quantified by high-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC). Results of pigment analyses indicate that both microalgal biomass and community structure varied within and among sampling sites. Examination of spectral reflectance revealed differences both in the magnitude of overall reflectance between 400 and 710 nm and in the magnitude of absorption features. Second derivative analysis of reflectance spectra was used to identify nine narrow wavebands that correspond to wavelengths most affected by in vivo absorption by specific pigments. Results of linear regression analyses of the ratio of second derivatives at 676 nm to reflectance at 676 nm versus chlorophyll a plus chlorophyllide a indicate that total (living plus senescent or dead) microalgal biomass can be estimated from measurements of hyperspectral reflectance. Estimates of microalgal biomass can also be made based on the ratios of second derivatives at 444 nm to reflectance at 444 nm. Concentrations of other pigment groups can be estimated from second derivatives at 492 and 540 nm. These relationships between hyperspectral reflectance of sediments and benthic microalgal pigments suggest that remote sensing reflectance might be useful for distinguishing major differences among benthic habitats in some optically shallow areas.

Effects of microalgal communities on reflectance spectra of carbonate sediments in subtidal optically shallow marine environments
http://aslo.org/lo/toc/vol_48/issue_1_part_2/0535.pdf

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The Oligocene to Miocene units of the northwest Australian continental margin form thick prograding units in offshore seismic lines (Figs. 1, 2). Although the gross facies successions have been documented broadly (Apthorpe 1988), the detailed facies makeup of the margin is relatively poorly known. The most recent seismic stratigraphic study of the margin described a relatively small number of ditch cutting samples with respect to grain size and percent carbonate (Young et al. 2001). The uplifted Cape Range anticline, North West Cape, Western Australia (Fig. 1) provides exposures of these units onshore. Their facies relations, gross lithologies,
fossils, and ages have been described by Condon et al. 1955, Chaproniere 1975, Hogarth 1999, and Boterhoven 1999. Outcrop studies in the area are hampered by the weathering of the limestones in this low rainfall setting, which obscures primary fabrics and contacts, necessitating closely spaced sampling or examination of rare core.

In this paper, we measured in detail several outcrop sections, logging bed-by-bed the vertical succession of rock types as identified from fresh samples and in thin section,integrating the data with the petrographic studies of Hogarth (1999) and the foram studies of Chaproniere (1975, 1984). We obtained gamma ray logs of the outcrop sections using a handheld spectral gamma ray scintillometer, in order to evaluate evidence for parasequence- and sequence-scale changes in log signature, and to provide outcrop reference sections for the offshore subsurface. We also have tested whether stable isotopes can be used on the outcrop sections (which potentially preserve a relatively pristine signature, given the arid climate) to evaluate whether high frequency cyclicity in the units is related to random storm influenced processes, or to climatically driven eustatic changes in sea level. Thus, the paper provides a study of Early Miocene highstand facies, the overlying sequence boundary, and the overlying Middle Miocene transgressive and highstand systems tracts.

Keywords: Facies, outcrop gamma ray, C-O isotopes, Miocene, subtropical shelf
carbonates, North West Australia
Corresponding Author: Prof. J.F. Read Virginia Polytechnic Institute

This paper has some good depth models
http://espace.lis.curtin.edu.au/archive ... 4-00202_(2).pdf

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Suwannee Lithofacies in the Long Key Core
Seven lithofacies have been identified in the Suwannee Limestone of the Long Key Core on the basis of floral and faunal composition and depositional texture: (1) skeletal floatstone and rudstone facies; (2) coral framestone and floatstone facies; (3) molluscan rudstone and floatstone facies; (4) peloid grainstone and packstone facies; (5) benthic foraminifer grainstone facies; (6) Halimeda rudstone and floatstone facies; and (7) peneroplid packstone facies. Characterization of these facies is shown in Table 1. Photomicrographs of six of the facies are displayed in Figure 10, and their vertical distribution is shown in Figure 8. Results of permeability measurements of the Suwannee Limestone are shown in Table 1 and Figure 11.

http://sofia.usgs.gov/publications/pape ... hofac.html

http://sofia.usgs.gov/publications/pape ... ngkey.html

http://sofia.usgs.gov/publications/pape ... .html#fig4

There was a great aerial view of this area I can’t find anymore..

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These are papers I cannot access that may have pertinent information Wub
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Quote:Signed,
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now then
about homework <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/hmm2.gif" alt="Hmm2" title="hmm2" />

I am not sure what you are looking For?
Could you rephrase?
Wook just not sure which what
you are looking for?
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http://www.cnt.ru/~chas/home.htm

Quote:Welcome to Justin Chashihin's Home Page
(Moscow institute of physics and engineering)
IN RUSSIAN / ПО-РУССКИ. Last update April 17, 2001. Please make a bookmark (ctrl+D).
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Here is: 1. Catastrophic Geology, 2. Relativistic Astronomy: Diameter of Universe is Very Small, 3. Physical nature of spin and unified theory of matter. 4. Science of longevity, 5. Quantum Theory of Gravitation, 6. Relativistic quantum model of antiparticles.
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1. Analysis of Plate Tectonics by Newtonian Mechanics. Catastrophic Geology
Thesis of this my work was accepted to 31st International Geological Congress held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil on 6-17 August, 2000 (but I could not attend the conference due to absence of money for ticket to Brazil).
I also talked this report on Russian conference "Geodynamics and technogenesis" held in Yaroslavl on 12-15 September 2000 and on 7th International conference of undergraduate and postgraduate students on fundamental sciences "Lomonosov-2000", which was in Moscow State University from 12 to 15 April 2000. Thesis is published in Russian in book of thesises:
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http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002 ... nction.htm

Quote:The Great Dying
250 million years ago something unknown wiped out most life on our planet. Now scientists are finding buried clues to the mystery inside tiny capsules of cosmic gas.

Listen to this story via streaming audio, a downloadable file, or get help.

January 28, 2002: It was almost the perfect crime.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract

Quote:Fullerenes and interplanetary dust at the Permian-Triassic boundary.

Poreda RJ, Becker L.

Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Rochester, Rochester, New York, USA.

We recently presented new evidence that an impact occurred approximately 250 million years ago at the Permian-Triassic boundary (PTB), triggering the most severe mass extinction in the history of life on Earth. We used a new extraterrestrial tracer, fullerene, a third carbon carrier of noble gases besides diamond and graphite. By exploiting the unique properties of this molecule to trap noble gases inside of its caged structure (helium, neon, argon), the origin of the fullerenes can be determined
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http://www.creationinthecrossfire.com/d ... llenge.htm

Quote:TURBIDITES: A CHALLENGE TO UNIFORMITARIANISM
By Kurt Howard, M.S.
Edited by Jon Covey, B.A., MT(ASCP)

My physical geology professor said, "Regarding uniformitarianism, you can take it with a grain of salt." After reviewing geology texts on the subject of turbidites, I am following the courageous professor's advice. To paraphrase his words, I am taking uniformitarianism with a grain of sand, for the philosophy of uniformitarianism states that sedimentary layers form over many millions of years, while much recent research has shown that turbidites form within a few hours. {1}

Geologists believe that turbidites are sandstone beds resulting from turbidity currents occurring sporadically and often catastrophically underwater

http://www.creationinthecrossfire.com/d ... lates1.htm

Quote:http://www.creationinthecrossfire.com
Catastrophic Plate Tectonics (Part I)
By Jon Covey, BA, MT (ASCP)
Edited by Anita K. Millen-Covey, MD, MPH, MA

If this world were created in six standard days, modified by the curse after Adam’s sin, and mauled by a global flood, what would it look like today? If this world, which many evolutionists claim, were the result of uniformitarian processes over billions of years, what would it look like? If this world were the result of multi-continent catastrophes, as evolutionary neo-catastrophists suggest, what would the aftereffects be? How could we decide which theory was nearest the truth?

A report in the journal Science concluded that 540 million years ago the supercontinent Rodinia suddenly cracked apart. The plates comprising the earth’s crust then moved and rotated much more rapidly than previously thought. Almost simultaneously, a new supercontinent, Gondwanaland, formed. [Kirshvink]

Supercharged plates


Where are We going hrm?
the similarity between Earth and Mars geology
OR
The possibility of cross Contamination in the past
From Colliding Planets !/?

Wook got SO many Thoughts a going!
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#6
Well Wook Keith said we get to point the camera
and I would like to point it to an area as yet
unknow as I described above..

As all of you know Mars
surface way better than me..
I have asked for the help with the homework

As in...
Where can find a site that fits this model?


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To up the ante so to speak and just so you all get a better idea
of where I'm going with this,
aside from the cosmo~biological origins issue
I'll drop this as an incentive for you Barsoomian structure hunters.

You might note that many ancient Ea artifacts
are found at geological boundary areas such as in my first post

Dedicated to the creators of the future Golden Age...
Left to humanity as a vision of the future of Planet Earth..
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"This is probably the greatest discovery in World history" was stated by Maxine Asher, the co-director of a scientific expedition that found Atlantis at the bottom of the ocean reported United Press International (UPI) and major newspapers in the United States during the summer of 1973. UPI continued that "Maxine Asher said that scuba divers found data to prove the existance of the super-civilization which legend says sank beneath the sea thousands of years ago"..."the divers had found evidence of roads and large columns some with concentric spiral montifs, in the exact place described by the Greek philosopher Plato" (beyond the Pillars o Hercules, off Spain).

"The group of some 70 scientists, teachers and adventurers was endorsed by Pepperdine University in Los <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/angelic005.gif" alt="Angel" title="" />es, CA." The information is NOT based on any New Age channeling or psychic recall or manifestations. It is primarily based on many ancient writings found around the world.

RUINS
1. City on the bottom of Atlantic Ocean off Spain, found by Dr. Maxine Asher's expedition in 1973 and reported by UPI Asher was Interviewed and evidence was Witnessed by Steve Omar, director of the M.I.N.D. International Research Agency,Maui, Hawaii.

2. Pyramid explored by Dr. Ray Brown on the sea floor off the Bahamas in 1970. Brown was accompanied by 4 divers who also found roads,domes, rectangtular buildings, unidentified metallic instruments, and a statue holding a mysterious" crystal containing miniature pyramids. The metal devices and crystals were taken to Florida for analysis at a university there. What was discovered was that the crystal amplified energy that passed through it. Brown interviewd by M.I.N.D.

3. Ruins of roads and buildings found off Bimini Island in the 1960s by the photographed and published expeditions of Dr. Manson Valentine. Steven Forsberg, co-founder of the Lahaina Times newspaper dove into these ruins in 1982 to witness them first hand. Similar ruins were also photographed off Cay Sal in the Bahamas. The ruins are of the same construction as the oldest city ever found on land, according to archaeologists, in Tiajuanaco, Bolivia where a calendar was uncovered that shows the exact position of the stars and planets 27,000 years ago. This is more than 20,000 years BEFORE the oldest civilizations in school history books!

4. Similar underwater ruins found off Morocco and photographed 50 to 60 feet underwater.

5. Dr. David Zink found in 1957, off the Bahamas coast, a stylized marble head building block cast in a mold and a construction piece drilled by a bit, as well as a stone column that he reported radiated energy. Forsberg of M.I.N.D. interviewed Dr. Zink and obtained the photographs.

6. A ruined harbor like complex discovered on the sea floor off Bimini by Captain John Alexander.

7. The deep sea diving submarine Aluminaut discovered a well preserved paved road on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean make of black top magnesium oxide, running along the sea floor from Florida South Carolina.

8. Temple pillars buildings, statues, wide curving boulevards with smaller avenues branching out like spokes in a wheel, majestic temples and pyramids videotaped by Captain Reyes Miranga on the Spanish named salvage ship "Talia."

9. A huge 11 room pyramid found 10,000 feet under water in the mid Atlantic Ocean with a huge crystal top, as reported by Tony Benik.

10. Several acres of white marble-like ruins found on tile ocean floor off Cuba reported by Liecesaer Hemingway.

11. Mysterious dome structures reportedly seen in clear water by several pilots in the Straits of Florida.

12. Soviet expeditions to Atlantic Ampere Seamount resulted in photographs of ruins destroyed by lava (like the Aztecs and Mayans wrote Atlan was destroyed by.) This discovery was in the New York Times newspaper May 21, 1978.The photos were developed by the Academy's Petrovsky Marakuyev and reported by the deputy Director of the Soviet Academy of Science's Institute of Oceanography, Professor Aksyonove, who also reported ruins found off Cadiz, Spain in the same area as Dr. Maxine Asher's previous discovery.

13. 1981 expedition of P. Cappellano discovered mysterious ruins with strange symbols on them on the sea floor off the Canary Islands.

14. 1977 report of a huge pyramid found off cay Sal in the Bahamas, photographed by Ari Marshall's expedition, about 150 feet underwater. The pyramid was about 650 feet high. Mysteriously, the surrounding water was lit by sparkling white water flowing out of the openings in the pyramid and surrounded by green water, instead of the black water everywhere else at that depth.

15. An urn brought to the surface by Dr. Aher's expedition.

16. The foundations of a 100 by 75 foot structure photographed on the sea bottom off Andros Island.

17. A sunken city about 400 miles of Portugal found by Soviet expeditions led by Boris Asturua, with buildings made of extreemely strong concrete and plastics. He said , "the remains of streets suggests the use of monorails for transportation." He added that he brought up a statue.

18. A six foot column or spire protruding from a double circular gear-like base embeded in the ocean floor, with peculiar light emanations from the bottom of the shaft showing up in photos taken by Dr. William Bell in 1958.

19. Pillars found on the Atlantic floor in 1969 by Robert Fero and Michael Grumley, a chunk of which was carved from rock NOT found anywhere in that part of the world.

20. A road off the Bahamas explored by Dr. Manson Valentine.

21. Dimitri Rebikoff, using his underwater platform and a special collecting lens, reported ruins found encircling an underwater freshwater spring.

22. Marble Acropolis underwater across five acres of fluted columns raised on pillars.

23. Heinrich Schilemann, the man who found and excavated the famous ruins of Troy (which historians thought was only a legend), reportedly left a written account of his discovery of a bronze vase with a metal unknown to scientists who examined it, in the famous Priam Treasure. Inside it are glyphs in Phoenician stating that it was from King Chronos of Atlantis! IDENTICAL potter was found in Tiajuanaco, Bolivia.

24. Twenty researchers, including archaeologists, a marine biologist, geologist, and cartographer dived onto ruins on the sea floor off Bimini in 1975 and brought back artifacts from which they concluded that the walls and roads were made of materials not found in that part of the world.


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Good picture of Mars
http://ltpwww.gsfc.nasa.gov/tharsis/ngs.html

http://ltpwww.gsfc.nasa.gov/tharsis/Mar ... from_MOLA/

one place I would start>
http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/About/Astr ... crater.jpg
[Image: mer_gusevcrater.jpg]

next>
Valles Marineris
[Image: marineris.gif]
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Wook and hrm,

How would you like to access the interactive landing site maps?

they're like the MOLA image of Gusev you have above, only the imbedded MOC images are clickable,bringing up the full size images I processed for the MER mission (and other upcoming missions) at Marsoweb.

http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/landingsites/mer2003/mocs/
See the map at the page top with the yellow boxes on it?
those are the potential landing sites so far selected for present and future missions, clicking them takes you to full sized footprint maps with embedded images


From this master map you can access most all of the current Mars data that exists.
http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/dataViz/

Come explore my planet with me, I'll even share my favorite tools
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and hrm,
if you wish to point the camera you will have to join the team. learn the maps and ordering process... and put in requests with justifying reasons.

http://www.msss.com/plan/log_in
It also helps to have knowledge of areas already imaged, because they are not wanting multiple images of the same place, but to explore our favorite places, For instance, there are already about 10 images containing the Face, it's not likely that they will fill any more requests for it. we want to explore other nooks and crannies.

so far only MSSS is doing this, setting the stage for the MRO public outreach program, which is being finalized at present.
So yes, we will be pointing the keen eyes of HiRise.
and yes, we are at present pointing MGS.
I've had about 70 images returned,
you can view the images our team has had returned here,
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/publicresults/
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In particular interest for you Wook, here are some other java maps of interest areas, these have actual moc images imbedded instead of footprints, but they don't have all the images the previous links above have
Gusev

http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/landingsit ... nal/Gusev/

Melas Chasma..

http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/landingsit ... nal/Melas/

I pushed for Melas to be the area they put Opportunity down, but since the scientists were scared crosswinds and rough terrain would cause the mission to fail, and Sprit was headed to look at the great mother..and risky enough..
they chose the great sand trap of Meridiani..


PS,
I "get you" now hrm. I sometimes start out a little dense, but I usually catch on..
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[quote author="KLaney"]Wook and hrm,

How would you like to access the interactive landing site maps?

they're like the MOLA image of Gusev you have above, only the imbedded MOC images are clickable,bringing up the full size images I processed for the MER mission (and other upcoming missions) at Marsoweb.

http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/landingsites/mer2003/mocs/
See the map at the page top with the yellow boxes on it?
those are the potential landing sites so far selected for present and future missions, clicking them takes you to full sized footprint maps with embedded images


From this master map you can access most all of the current Mars data that exists.
http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/dataViz/

Come explore my planet with me, I'll even share my favorite tools
Applause Whip
I'm rushing in and out right now and will respond
in more depth when I can do your generous comments
the justice they deserve.

Thank you !
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COOL !!!!! Hmm2
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From STA>
MARS: INSECT LIKE HIVE COLONY FORMATION CLOSEUP *PIC*

Posted By: Storm <Send E-Mail>
Date: Monday, 6 March 2006, 4:09 p.m.

In this section I discovered of a Mars Global Surveyor Image you can see many strange formations. I have enlarged and resampled this section of the full image to help people see the structures. The full image is completely absent of craters and looks to be of recent geological history because of this. In some areas of the full image are what look like vegetation and roots and branches, different from these colony like structures.

The formations are separated and have what look like legs of similar length leading away from the central mound. The tube like legs do not look like melting, dunes or lava flow.

These formations have a hive like or insect like look about them. The tubes are much too uniform and in many cases stop abruptly instead of trailing off as you would see from melting, roots or lava flow, or broken as you would see from cracks or crater formations. These structures do not look like random acts of nature and look deliberate and intelligently constructed by some sort of living species. You can see some on the left hand side are connected by long uniform well defined tube structures. The formations have a very organic look like some sort of species has formed a colony of dwellings.

I believe this is further evidence of the current diverse life on Mars.

Good Luck All,

Norman Bryden

Link to NASA Image:
http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m07_m12 ... 903813.gif

Link to Specification Page:
http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m07_m12 ... 03813.html


[Image: pic129423.jpg]

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I bet you'll enjoy this.

http://www.daviddarling.info/encycloped ... rsveg.html
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#15
Good Grief!!!!
Looks like Trees and Shrubs
Defiantly way pass "lichen" life forms!
to Me!

Those pictures lead to more Questions !
As I have said before
Mars MUST be much warmer
than we are being told!

Trees and Shrubs that close to the poles?
Not even on Earth
do we have trees and Shrubs
that close to the poles!

and then
NASA would tell us
Poles are made of CO 2
F---ing NUTS!

Let's get some close up pictures from NASA!
Looks like some kind of Ongoing Organic Systems to Me!

Can you say
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I think you're right in your speculation Wook, and Mars is much warmer than stated, and the atmospheric pressure is higher than stated as well, especially in the several 8000+ meter deep chasms and basins.
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They sure did stop those blue atmosphere pictures in a hurry! <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/brucelee.gif" alt="Brucelee" title="Bruce Lee" />
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yep, they sure did, and still do..

though they pass it off

When the rover images are processed so that the color cal dial is correct the skies when clear are blue/ pinkish blue.

when dusty it turns ruddier, early in the day and late in the evening they're ruddy as well.

So what color is Mars??

Depends mostly on what time of day it is.
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#19
just going thur old links
saw this
dusty; my ass! Hmm2
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Nice picture Wook

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#21
I always thought NASA needed a Compaction Engineer to explain to NASA
THAT YOU CAN NOT COMPACT SAND or DUST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need Moisture!!!!!!!!
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We (Wook and I) left hrm and the rest of you a boatload of Mars imaging and map resources to bone up on things you need to be familiar with in order to point the camera..
it's in the MRO isertion thread

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#23
Thanks Keith
I have been studying the ones you left above..
Trying to get the hang of it..

so many nice filters..
Still having an overall orientation dilemma..
I'm working on it..

I'll check over there as well !
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#24
Here's a kick ass site for looking at the MRO images.
You can scroll around and zoom in on them

from Ames/Marsoweb!


http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/HiRISE/first_images/

got a hint that this is what the request interface will be somewhat like
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#25
Quote:Good Grief!!!!
Looks like Trees and Shrubs
Defiantly way pass "lichen" life forms!
to Me!

Those pictures lead to more Questions !
As I have said before
Mars MUST be much warmer
than we are being told!

Trees and Shrubs that close to the poles?
Not even on Earth
do we have trees and Shrubs
that close to the poles!

and then
NASA would tell us
Poles are made of CO 2
F---ing NUTS!

Let's get some close up pictures from NASA!
Looks like some kind of Ongoing Organic Systems to Me!

Can you say
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Yeppers! In another topic, I showed, in a big pic a pair of big lakes surrounding a melting mass of water ice and some still think it's just CO2 and "dark material!" There are areas on Mars that have a higher atmospheric pressure than anywhere on Earth...such as Argyre, Hellas and Valles Marineris!
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#26
Xuxa, that reiterates a question I've had fort a while..
Given that places like Hellas have areas as low as 8800 meters below mean surface level, I wonder what the formula would be for figuring the increase in atmospheric density at those depths.

Times like these make me wish Green Dawg would visit occasionally, I'd bet he knows.
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#27
heck, ya think maybe some of them warlocks at JPL are still working on sending a few hundred chosen ones off planet for the great escape from Earth, to Mars?
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#28
The scale height of the Martian atmosphere is 10.8 km;
the surface pressure is about 610 Pa. The mean lapse
rate is about 2.5 K / km. The pressure and temperature
are strongly influenced by the amount of dust in the atmosphere.

For a clear atmospere, the pressure is 1 mbar at ~19.5 km,
0.1 mbar at ~40 km and 0.01 mbar at 59 km.

http://www.nfinity.com/~exile/marsweather.htm
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#29
Something new to chat about: Richard announced to George on Coast tonite, that he is going to show a stunning image of an 'OCEAN LINER'. He will present it at the Joshua Conference. So, perhaps what we see littering Gusev, could be parts off of sea going vessels. Anyways, Im very much anticipating this new image, and Richard said MRO is targeting it. Thats what I heard. I remember an image on TEM years ago that showed what appeared to be some kind of flying craft, with hull and windows.....Keith, you remember that one?
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#30
Quote:I think you're right in your speculation Wook, and Mars is much warmer than stated, and the atmospheric pressure is higher than stated as well, especially in the several 8000+ meter deep chasms and basins.

I wonder if the gravity of Mars might be a lot higher than the "scientists" claim as well...just a thought. And since we have 5 mile+ deep chasms/basins, perhaps those areas could have a much higher pressure than sea-level Earth.
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#31
Point the Camera
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#32
Here's the start of the program.

http://clickworkers.arc.nasa.gov/hirise

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