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A "Crick" in my neck,Ahhh! there's the rub:DNA Hoogsteen Chargaff elementary Watson?
#1
DNA:

Quote:Characteristics of the DNA Double-Helix
DNA will adopt two different forms of helices under different conditions--the B- and A-forms. These two forms differ in their helical twist, rise, pitch and number of base pairs per turn. The twist of a helix refers to the number of degrees of angular rotation needed to get from one base unit to another. In the B-form of helix, this is 36 degrees while in the A-form it is 33 degrees. Rise refers to the height change from one base pair to the next and is 3.4 angstroms in the B-form and 2.6 angstroms in the A-form. The pitch is the height change to get one full rotation (360 degrees) of the helix. This value is 34 angstroms in the B-form since there are ten base pairs per turn. In the A-form, this value is 28 angstroms since there are eleven base pairs per full turn.
Of the two forms, the B-form is far more common, existing under most physiological conditions. The A-form is only adopted by DNA under conditions of low humidity. RNA, however, generally adopts the A-form in situations where the major and minor grooves are closer to the same size and the base pairs are a bit tilted with respect to the helical axis.

http://www.sparknotes.com/biology/molec ... tion1.html
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"QUOTE"
The twist of a helix refers to the number of degrees of angular rotation needed to get from one base unit to another. In the B-form of helix, this is 36 degrees while in the A-form it is 33 degrees. " QUOTE"

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This is merely the "STUFF" we're made of.
Seems perfectly in tune,I'd go so far as to say we are made of the "RITE" stuff.
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#2
Now,no speculation involving 33 would be replete without the ubiquitous 19.5
Let me draw you into the mystery.
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CAPTION:
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20 and 19, Portugal Place, Cambridge, now undergoing renovation,
where Crick and his wife Odile, who drew the double helix,
lived at the “green” door number 19, next door to his brother Michael.
Watson, Wilkins and Franklin visited.
Now fronted by a neglected garden.

Between 20 and 19 is not a matter of debate.

Who's Line is it Anyway?
Funny how life is.

The Structure of life follows a simple principle.


The hidden mission.
What is Concealed is Revealed.
Tilt 'yer neck and recieve.
QUOTE:
"Now fronted by a neglected garden."

precisely, we've got to get ourselves back to the GARDEN.
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#3
But a heliacal "BARBER" shop pole @ 19.5 portugal place,Cambridge merely demarcates Cricks whereabouts during what is revealed.

This can surely be pronounced coincidence...I agree.

Quote:Each chromosome is a very long molecule of DNA with many genes along its length, providing a set of instructions for making an organism. These instructions are called the genome. The number of bases can vary from a thousand to a million. A sequence of three bases, such as A C T, C A G, T T T, along the strand makes up a gene, each group of three represents the code for one of twenty amino acids, which in due course forms part of a protein molecule, which provides the structure of cells and tissues. Each group of three is a codon. There are 64 known codons, with 3 stop or nonsense codons marking the end of the sequence. It is estimated that 3 billion base pairs of A T C G make up the human genome, less than 5% being genes, the function of the rest is not known at present. Each individual has a different arrangement of these letters in their genetic code, thus it is very unlikely that two humans or organisms will be exactly identical. The purpose of more than 30,000 genes has so far been established.


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A sequence of three bases, such as A C T, C A G, T T T, along the strand makes up a gene,

*** each group of three represents the code for one of twenty amino acids, which in due course forms part of a protein molecule, which provides the structure of cells and tissues.***

Each group of three is a codon. There are 64 known codons, with 3 stop or nonsense codons marking the end of the sequence.

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a base group of 3 defines 1 out of 20.
1 out of twenty can be an equation:
20-1=19 remnants.

This unused remainder of 19 Amino acids completes the full twenty by numeric logic ???  19 +1=20

therfore the link that continues this sequence is Somewhere Hidden in the Mission,likely on or about 19.5?
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#4
I bet Martian DNA would be based partly on 33 and 19.5! <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cheers.gif" alt="Cheers" title="cheers" />
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#5
maybe it's a "sine" from above.

[Image: Crick.jpeg]

http://web.1asphost.com/anomalist/Crick.jpeg

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#6
The simple fundamentals to aid life's past/future genesis seem to be an abundant resource to some systems.
I wonder how I can Spin this New Angle.
Lol!!!
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Contact:

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"It has forced us to rethink the paradigms of interstellar chemistry," said Anthony Remijan of the NRAO."

Very timely,methinks.
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#7
INteresting stuff EA. check this out if you haven't already: http://www.esotericscience.com/inertia.aspx It also follows logically that if jumping of nodes during acceleration creates a resistive force on an object there must also be a force exerted by the object on the aether.
One would therefore expect that whenever an object is accelerated there would be created some sort of movement of the aether along the direction of acceleration. The stronger the acceleration or deceleration the stronger the disturbance in the aether.
It should be possible to detect this movement by for example using techniques pioneered by Dr Kozyrev. He set up equipment that was so sensitive it was able to detect changes caused by raising and lowering a 10kg weight 2-3 meters away!
He referred to the disturbances that traveled from the weight to his detectors as torsion fields. We would simply refer to them as changes in the movement of the aether. One might also consider these as longitudinal waves with a spiral motion.
See David Wilcock's site [4] for an interesting account of Dr Kozyrev and his colleague's many discoveries.
'I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space...' Shakespeare, Hamlet, Act 2, Scene 2
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#8
Hi EA...welcome to this 'Hidden Mission' Cheers

Bob... Reefer

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#9
Hello Xuxa ,GR888. (I'll check that 'esoteric' link,tonight!,Thanx->P.S.
here's the link I forgot in my previous post on the brother's Crick "19.5"address)---
http://www.ba-education.demon.co.uk/for ... e/dna.html

RHW007 Damned
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#10
'Elementary, my dear Watson' <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/applause.gif" alt="Applause" title="applause" /> Id like to go back in time and talk to the both of them, but id take a ship instead of an airplane to Cambridge.
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#11
The next question ,in my opinion is:

Does DNA have a North and South pole?
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#12
Apparently besides the angle of "A"form DNA's twist there is another "Twist" to the plot.

Actually the twist is a bend location.

Quote: Chemical nuclease studies show that the activator form, but not the repressor, induces a unique alteration of the helical structure localized at the centre of the DNA-binding site. Data presented here indicate that this Hg-MerR-induced DNA distortion corresponds to a local underwinding of the spacer region of the promoter by about 33 degrees relative to the MerR-operator complex. The magnitude and the direction of the Hg-MerR-induced change in twist angle are consistent with a positive control mechanism involving reorientation of conserved, but suboptimally phased, promoter elements and are consistent with a role for torsional stress in formation of an open complex.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract

redundandancy and recumbancy and thirty three-ancy.


an image is begginning to form.
Who's image is it anyway?

(Just to toss this in to the 33 and 19.5...
The earlier article I quoted was dated JULY 25th.
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#13
If I can figure this out,to my satisfaction.

I may have to absolve NASA of any wrongdoing and conclude this is "Cosmic"

Checking,learning.
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#14
I think that Galaxies and solar systems twist and turn just like the Universe does, with its dips and peaks, valleys and swells. Check this out Ea: http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/qg_ss.html
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Researchers believe they have found a second code in DNA in addition to the genetic code.  
Loren Williams/Chemistry and Biochemistry, Georgia Institute of Technology
In a living cell, the DNA double helix wraps around a nucleosome, above center, and binds to some of its proteins, known as histones.

Related
A Genomic Code for Nucleosome Positioning (Nature.com) The genetic code specifies all the proteins that a cell makes. The second code, superimposed on the first, sets the placement of the nucleosomes, miniature protein spools around which the DNA is looped. The spools both protect and control access to the DNA itself.

The discovery, if confirmed, could open new insights into the higher order control of the genes, like the critical but still mysterious process by which each type of human cell is allowed to activate the genes it needs but cannot access the genes used by other types of cell.

The new code is described in the current issue of Nature by Eran Segal of the Weizmann Institute in Israel and Jonathan Widom of Northwestern University in Illinois and their colleagues.

There are about 30 million nucleosomes in each human cell. So many are needed because the DNA strand wraps around each one only 1.65 times, in a twist containing 147 of its units, and the DNA molecule in a single chromosome can be up to 225 million units in length.


Quote:DNA strand wraps around each one only 1.65 times
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Biologists have suspected for years that some positions on the DNA, notably those where it bends most easily, might be more favorable for nucleosomes than others, but no overall pattern was apparent. Drs. Segal and Widom analyzed the sequence at some 200 sites in the yeast genome where nucleosomes are known to bind, and discovered that there is indeed a hidden pattern.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/25/scien ... 47&ei=5089
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Quote:There are about 30 million nucleosomes in each human cell. So many are needed because the DNA strand wraps around each one only 1.65 times, in a twist containing 147 of its units, and the DNA molecule in a single chromosome can be up to 225 million units in length.

"...and the DNA molecule in a single chromosome can be up to 225 million units in length

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How easy it gets to unravel.
Using 33 to see.
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#16
Now for the Feline side...
Biomarker?
Organic communication engineering?


Pregnant women infected by cat parasite more likely to give birth to boys, say researchers
<img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/cow.gif" alt="Cow" title="cow" /> I said Mew not MOO!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story ... 65,00.html
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#17
When I left off,back in october,as you can see I anticipated this possibility but there was No Way I was prepared for this shocker!

Biomarker?
Organic communication engineering?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story ... ss&feed=18

Einstein + bacteria DNA = organic computer breakthrough


Quote: Ian Sample, science correspondent
Thursday February 22, 2007
The Guardian

Scientists have written a message into the DNA of a living organism, a breakthrough they believe could lead to a new era of organic computers capable of healing themselves if damaged. The researchers encoded Einstein's most famous equation and most prolific year into the genome of one the hardiest strains of bacteria in the world, Bacillus subtilis. The characters "E=MC^2 1905!" were then read from the bacterium at a later date by analysing its genetic sequence.

In the proof-of-principle experiment, the research team showed they could write a message into the bacterium's DNA and retrieve it. The process is slow, taking days to complete. But because the organisms are so hardy and are able to pass on data to future generations, they may still find a role in storing large amounts of information that do not need to be accessed quickly.

Yoshiaki Ohashi, who led the study at Keio University in Tokyo, said that bacteria have the potential to store vast quantities of data and are more resistant to the kinds of damage that could wipe modern hard drives. "Information storage using DNA is robust for more than one hundred million years," he said.

The researchers wrote the message by first converting it into binary. This code was then built into artificial strands of DNA, using letters such as AG to mean 1000 and TC to mean 0111. The strands were then injected into the bacterium.

A difficulty is that bacteria are promiscuous when it comes to swapping DNA with other microbes. But the team believe the mutation rates are slow enough to ensure messages are still readable, especially when the bacteria form a tough spore.

Professor Ohashi said the process would work equally well in plants, fruit and insects. "Cockroaches are very interesting, because they have an ability to tolerate [extreme] environments."

While the researchers' main goal is to create living memories for a new breed of DNA computers that perform calculations using strands of genetic material, the technique could also be used to tag organisms for life, by inserting identification markers into their genome. The research is published in the journal of the American Chemical Society.

In 2004 Israeli scientists used DNA to power the world's smallest computer, a molecular computer designed to identify traces of prostate and lung cancer in blood and deliver a DNA-based treatment telling the cancerous cells to self-destruct.

Knowing from My "Metric" research that the speed of light is a 33.3 multiple and finding it encoded in DNA as well as Cydonia,I now know this is a distinct possibility.There is further info I have gathered that I feel is relevant .Man I can dig this!
I simply don't know what will happen to my mind if I correlate this.
Is there already a message...Inside of us?
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#18
fucky stunning!

I'm sitting here jaw dropped.

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#19
EA !

Look at this forum message...the experiments mentioned are VERY interesting....

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/For ... 00072.html

This left me wondering...how could our humble DNA organise light ? What is going on here?

This led me to a guy called "Dan Winter", a person who could probably most succinctly be called "a Gnostic Philosopher"...

[Image: dnabraid2.gif]

"DNA Braid 2"

[Image: dnazoom2.gif]

"DNA Zoom 2"

[Image: dnaimplosion.jpg]

"DNA Implosion"

[Image: dnadreaming.jpg]

"DNA Dreaming"

Here's his main page for me...

http://www.zayra.de/soulcom/grail.html

The "grail" title is no joke...I suspect it is nothing less than the fabled Holy Grail itself sought after by many good people over the last 1500 years! Found JUST when the King is dying and his land is failing...the land without a King...the King without a Sword! Until now.

All Dan's articles are fractally and recursively arranged which can be rather difficult to navigate for the uninitiated....so here's a "normal" PDF...

http://www.soulinvitation.com/book2

Here's the main index for all his articles...but they all interlink anyway....

http://www.zayra.de/soulcom/indexdw.html

This is a HUGE subject and yet at the heart are some very SIMPLE principles (keep that in mind). Apart from the spiritual, religious, and health ramifications I'm interested in the way this kind of thing can clean up our technology from our dirty "explosive" technology to IMPLOSIVE technology...

Who was Viktor Schauberger ?

http://www.frankgermano.com///viktorschauberger.htm

The Cycloid-Space-Curve-Motion Cycle of Atomic Transitions as discovered by the Austrian Physicist,
Viktor Schauberger.


http://www.frankgermano.com/viktorschauberger_4.htm

....Just take a deep breath now and again (LOL!)...maybe that's just me... he he

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#20
Thanx DJ!
Those links are quite informative.
so I did a little searching on my own and may have missed a subtle clue on dimensions.I can now report it here.
I have included this earlier but Now I have some "Wiggle" room.
Wich may gain insight.

Quote:Characteristics of the DNA Double-Helix
DNA will adopt two different forms of helices under different conditions--the B- and A-forms. These two forms differ in their helical twist, rise, pitch and number of base pairs per turn. The twist of a helix refers to the number of degrees of angular rotation needed to get from one base unit to another. In the B-form of helix, this is 36 degrees while in the A-form it is 33 degrees. Rise refers to the height change from one base pair to the next and is 3.4 angstroms in the B-form and 2.6 angstroms in the A-form. The pitch is the height change to get one full rotation (360 degrees) of the helix. This value is 34 angstroms in the B-form since there are ten base pairs per turn. In the A-form, this value is 28 angstroms since there are eleven base pairs per full turn.
Of the two forms, the B-form is far more common, existing under most physiological conditions. The A-form is only adopted by DNA under conditions of low humidity. RNA, however, generally adopts the A-form in situations where the major and minor grooves are closer to the same size and the base pairs are a bit tilted with respect to the helical axis.

The relevant measures being:
"Rise refers to the height change from one base pair to the next and is 3.4 angstroms in the B-form and 2.6 angstroms in the A-form. The pitch is the height change to get one full rotation (360 degrees) of the helix. This value is 34 angstroms in the B-form since there are ten base pairs per turn. In the A-form, this value is 28 angstroms since there are eleven base pairs per full turn."

It has come to my attention there is slight(an angstrom is a slight measure)uncertainty on EXACT size,and yes this should come as no surprise.I'll demonstrate.

Quote:The dimensions of DNA in solution*1

Marshal Mandelkern, John G. Elias, Don Eden and Donald M. Crothers

Department of Chemistry Yale University, New Haven, CT 06511, U.S.A.

Received 3 February 1981.  Available online 22 October 2004.


Abstract

Combined measurement of the rotational and translational frictional coefficients of rod-like DNA molecules in dilute aqueous solution yields 22 to 26 Å for the hydrodynamic diameter and 3·34(± 0·1) Å for the length per base-pair.

*1 This work was supported by grants GM21966 and RR07015 from the National Institutes of Health.

"yields 22 to 26 Å for the hydrodynamic diameter and 3·34(± 0·1) Å for the length per base-pair."

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3·34(± 0·1) Å = 3.33Å

3.33Å

3.33 eh?...I have a graphic concept I hope to share with the members.
But I would like the members to read this LMH interview.

[Image: HumanGenomeDNACrick1953z.jpg]

No Way to Prove Genetic
Manipulation of Already-Evolving Primates by E. T.s?

Quote:SO THE BOTTOM LINE TO ALL OF THIS IS: EVEN IF THERE WERE AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL MANIPULATION OR SEEDING OF DNA ON THIS PLANET OR OTHER PLANETS, OUR CURRENT LIFE FORM RIGHT NOW – HUMANS – WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE IT?

I would think probably that we could not prove it. It would be very difficult for us to prove that. It’s very difficult to prove anything in the past, right? All you can do is look at the evidence and come up with a theory. But proof is something that you can just come up with the facts based on the current data and you can formulate a theory. And a theory is something that’s not just a wild story. It’s something that is sort of accepted to be what happened in the past, or what will happen in the future, based on what scientists believe. So, it’s sort of the accepted, current knowledge. But to actually prove something is extremely difficult.

I don't like that assertion:  No way'
There IS a "WAY"
Geometry.

1 angstrom = 1.0 × 10-10 meters

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#21
EA.....

My radio is tuned to 333 as well....but I'm not listening to Desert Island Discs!

You might want to meet this guy....

http://bible-jasgrave333.blogspot.com/2 ... of-33.html

(He has a vid of himself at the top of this page).

I think Jas would forgive me for saying that he is NOT what he seems at all at first look. This is someone who has a deep understanding of numerology and could give you some very interesting pointers on the what is basically numerology that you are picking up.

My own personal opinion vis'a'vis Cydonia is the same with any numerologically based investigation. Any resonant, fractal based set of numbers and geometry are going to turn up all over the place! This is NOT the usual "you're seeing patterns in nature" standard scientific reply! This is where those scientists "throw out the baby with the bath water". It just that it causes a LOT of confusion I suspect because many people who look into Cydonia are ignorant of "Sacred Geometry" so are unaware that this study of landscape and numerlogical forms is actually millenia old!

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The Human-Cat Connection

Quote:Except for apes and monkeys, cats are genetically the closest animals to humans. So close is this relationship, that one merely needs to rotate portions of particular feline chromosomes end over end to get virtually identical gene matches with the human counterparts. This and the fact that cats and humans contract viruses that are similar, such as leukemia and HIV (FIV in cats), makes the cat an ideal model for studying the ensuing disease and the genetically based response in order to find cures for humans.

For example, how an individual responds to an infection by these viruses is, in part, dependent on the individual's genome - the sequence of DNA nucleotides found in his or her chromosomes. Different species of cats possess different sequences and some species that contract FIV will not develop AIDS and die. It is thought that the feline species which survive FIV infection possess gene sequences that direct cells to manufacture special enzymes. These enzymes appear to modify white blood cells sufficiently to prevent their destruction by the virus particles.

Research to find a cure for human AIDS may lead to the development of a drug which acts on human white blood cells in a similar way. Coryi Foundation, Inc. is collaborating with the National Cancer Institute to help study these relationships in bobcats via the detailed analysis of blood samples obtained from bobcats. By collectively interpreting the biomedical and ecological data, we will obtain a vivid picture of population genetics and diseases traceable in time and space.


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http://www.coryi.org/popdyn.htm

The Family Line: The Human-Cat Connection

Quote:Dogs may be our best friends, but cats are closer to our genetic kin. If you rearranged only a few cat chromosomes, you could convert the gene order into a human pattern. To do that for a dog or mouse would require about a hundred chromosome flips.

National Geographic research grantee and author Stephen J. O’Brien has been mapping the genetics of cats and providing clues to human ailments such as hemophilia and AIDS. Artist Mauricio Antón, who specializes in reconstructing extinct cats, illustrates the feline family tree and the world of cats.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/media ... ights.html
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Quote:[Image: catbox3.jpg]
The Human-Cat Connection


The Family Line: The Human-Cat Connection

Quote:Dogs may be our best friends, but cats are closer to our genetic kin. If you rearranged only a few cat chromosomes, you could convert the gene order into a human pattern. To do that for a dog or mouse would require about a hundred chromosome flips.

National Geographic research grantee and author Stephen J. O’Brien has been mapping the genetics of cats and providing clues to human ailments such as hemophilia and AIDS. Artist Mauricio Antón, who specializes in reconstructing extinct cats, illustrates the feline family tree and the world of cats.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/media ... ights.html

EA,

Kewl image. I cannot get the NG article. Must be some "permission" thingy. :uni:
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#25
Remember when I started this thread and my original link quote noted that the Place at cambridge was undergoing rennovations so what just happened?.

[Image: crickscaffold.jpg]

http://www.ba-education.demon.co.uk/for ... amain.html

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The Old QUOTE:
Quote:20 and 19, Portugal Place, Cambridge, now undergoing renovation,
where Crick and his wife Odile, who drew the double helix,
lived at the “green” door number 19, next door to his brother Michael.
Watson, Wilkins and Franklin visited.
Now fronted by a neglected garden.

The New QUOTE:
Quote:20 and 19, Portugal Place, Cambridge, 14th June, 2005 undergoing renovation
Then fronted by a neglected garden.

They qualified it with the added date:14th June, 2005

And something else happened...

QUOTE:
Quote:20 and 19 Portugal Place in 2007
Notice the numbers on the number plate have been reversed,
and that a single helix is over the door of number 20 on the left.
In 1953 Francis Crick and his wife Odile lived at number 19 with a door painted “green”,
next door at number 20 lived Edith and William Dowel.
The houses were probably owned by Trinity college for letting houses


Why the Switcheroo?
regardless...19.5 is smack dab in the middle of either alternative.

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They Flipped the Numbers...a history Shell game???  Hmm2
Methinks:  Smoke

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WHOA!!! they didn't just change NUMERALS...THE PEOPLE IN THE STORY CHANGED!!!

Quote:20 and 19, Portugal Place, Cambridge, now undergoing renovation,
where Crick and his wife Odile, who drew the double helix,
lived at the “green” door number 19, next door to his brother Michael.
>>> COMPARE.<<<
In 1953 Francis Crick and his wife Odile lived at number 19 with a door painted “green”,
next door at number 20 lived Edith and William Dowel.

Brucelee

Well its on Record Here and Keith can Vouch that previous quote is not an "edited-in" fabrication on my part.
BUSTED!

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#26
This needs archiving I think somethings going on here. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/ninja.gif" alt=":wahya:" title="ninja" />
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#27
EA...this is why I SAVE most pages, and sometimes entire sites if I can if information is important and likely to get "lost" or as you've seen the hagiographers come in and re-write history the way "THEY/THEM/TPTB" want things to written in history books.

I wish more people did the same. there was a bucky-ball link in wook's thread by hrm that no longer works.

ah well... Applause Applause

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#28
Niiiiiice.
:uni:
Snapped into place just like a lego-block.

Ka-Ching!
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#29
You're talking about what constitutes a "spore".

You're talking about chemical programs...fragments of programs......linking......
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#30
DNA has a 33 degree Heliacal 'twist-angle' to one of its three forms.
A,B & Z.

From A to B and sometimes Z.Lol.

It is merely a fact ,always there.
Ever Present.
Hidden message journal
takes a hidden in plain sight mission to accomplish the acts.

A lego block can easily teach a child like a Ten-Year old using Bamf's Crayons to colour mars true blue.
No Masons bricks and Mortar,no,this ain't yer daddies ol lodge anymore.

Snap!

There goes another one tightly into PLACE.

And as all know this is ever concealed to never Reveal I say to that nonsense.
3:33 am and I gotta take a Pisss.

In the Night I know the path by rote and don't activate the Hall light switch and take my certain steps forward.

OH MY Gawd!!! OUWWWWWWWWWWWWWCH!!!!

I Step on Jacob's lego in the Night.
Lego Hertz.
It can Dig Rite in and bruise yer Heel.

Lego,underfoot as you stumble over itz sharp plastic corner in the Darkness in the night as you surefootedly expected relief.

True Story,Eh.

Luckily I save certain relevant images as default,heh.

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to make sure we have a history of what transpired recently.

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a little sellac here,varnish there and a fresh coat of paint...or history just got whitewashed without even leaving the same doorstoop.
Wow!

I like the Part where the "Neighbours" Changed in the ---STORY--- heh.

But here uncovered @ the Hidden Mission,we were behind the scenes while Historic...ummm,errr Renovations took place.


No They Didn't.

And NO they Weren't.

We uncover the changes in the world as Only here at THM we do.
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EA,
Are you SURE you didn't save those two images on your HD somewhere that are missing in the post a few above theone you just did about this 20-19 and 19.5 DNA folks?

Next time try saving things and if you NEED SPACE...you KNOW I have plenty of FREE SPACE for storage AND presentation !!!

Now that I have the recently re-released HiRise page of the Smoker..talk about CHANGING WORDS !!!

Why would they do that hmmmm????

I have ALL the RAW CRISM data for that acquisition, ALL the SHARAD data (last one just finished), MARCI, CTX, I am working on finding the "derived" products they outputted with the CRISM data..had to send an email to the archiver to let him no label information and table information was "N/A" for such things as acquisition dates, and ORBIT #'s...my 2007 Smoker was acquired on orbit 5924 and they recently re-released it a few days ago....it already WAS released March 5, 2008 with NO COMMENTS...why add all these comments now?

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_005924_2210

Now off to find some more stuff after catching up here at THMF...had lots to do tonight...and still rendering...this machine has 340 hours to go on this one. Whistle

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Quote:nucleobases – could be widespread in the cosmos,"
said co-author Mark Sephton, also at Imperial College, London.

"As more and more of life's raw materials are discovered in objects from space,
the possibility of life springing forth wherever the right chemistry is present becomes more likely," he said.


"...wherever the right chemistry is present....".

My thoughts are that the conditions for the "right chemistry"
statistically imply
that in this vast universe, there are some places that have the right chemistry for the perfect meteorite and/or comet
in which a few hundred million or a billion years of initial startup evolution might take place in a few thousand years or less,
on the surface of the planet/moon in question.
Often one reads about "precambrian" era and hundreds of thousands to millions of years of slow steady microbial evolution.
Spontaneous catalytic genesis on the exponential scale is what I am talking about.
Statistically it should happen somewhere in the universe.

Life adapts and mutates quickly to stimuli.
Regardless, surely "fast track evolution" from the proper Panspermic Seed Vector
and "right chemistry" of a planet/moon will produce something a lot faster in evolutionary model
than the standard multi hundreds of millions and billions of years we are taught.
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Just so we get the full story in case of a "re-write" I shall critique and analyse this article because it is topical research to this thread.


Quote:Gunther S. Stent, 84; molecular biologist was an early DNA researcher
By Thomas H. Maugh II, Los <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/angelic005.gif" alt="Angel" title="" />es Times Staff Writer
June 19, 2008


Gunther S. Stent, a UC Berkeley molecular biologist who was a member of the key postwar group of scientists who solved the basic mysteries of the gene and how DNA functions, died June 12 at a retirement home in Haverford, Pa.

He was 84 and died from a massive staph infection that he had been fighting for several months.




Gunther S. StentPossessed of a restless intellect, Stent changed career directions at least twice, first abandoning molecular biology for the study of neurology and behavior -- becoming a leading expert on leeches in the process -- then becoming a noted historian and philosopher of science.

"Gunther is one of the leading intellectuals of the era, one of the last generalists," language and behavior expert John Searle of UC Berkeley said at a 2005 symposium honoring Stent. "He is a Renaissance man."

Stent himself had a simpler explanation: "I have a very short attention span. I get bored very quickly."



Here are a few interesting notes in the margin.
To begin with...There is an 'Identified and Named' GROUP.
This group verged on Caltech where JPL is now and Jack Parsons was back then.
Crick and Watson were there too.Hmmm? small world eh?


Quote:Stent was a member of the so-called phage group, a cluster of notable scientists centered on Max Delbrück of Caltech. Other members included Francis Crick, Renato Dulbecco, Alfred Hershey, Salvador Luria and James Watson.

All shared the view that bacteriophages -- tiny viruses that infect only bacteria -- provided the simplest model for studying the intricacies of DNA.

Stent got his introduction to phages when he visited Delbrück in 1948 in an effort to become a postdoc in his laboratory. The noted biologist offered him a position, asking if Stent wanted to work on phage.

"Yes, sir," Stent replied. "That's exactly what I want to work on, but could you refresh my memory as to just what phage is actually all about?"

At Caltech, he worked alongside Watson before the latter's move to Cambridge University, where he and Crick deciphered the structure of DNA.

Stent had no major scientific breakthrough of his own, but his work helped prove the structure deduced by the Cambridge pair.

In one series of experiments, for example, he incorporated radioactive phosphorus into the DNA of a phage. When the isotope decayed into sulfur, it would break the DNA chain, killing the phage.

By correlating the rate of phosphorus decay with the loss of phage activity, he demonstrated that DNA was double-helical, confirming Watson and Crick's structure, said Michael Botchan, co-chairman of Berkeley's department of molecular and cell biology.

Stent's work on phage led to one of his most influential books, "Molecular Biology of Bacterial Viruses" (1963), which became the key text in the field.

An updated version in 1970, written with Berkeley colleague Richard Calendar and called "Molecular Genetics," is considered a classic.

From his arrival at Berkeley in 1952, he helped reshape the study of biology on the campus, playing a key role in the formation of the department of virology in 1957, the department of molecular biology in 1964 and the department of molecular and cell biology in 1987. He was chairman of the latter two from 1980 until 1992, a period in which the biology faculty grew from 15 members to 90.

In 1972, he told his wife that he was "bored with molecular biology" and took a sabbatical leave to Harvard University to study neurobiology. He turned to the leech as a simple model system, hoping to learn how the chemistry of the brain governed behavior and learning.

Always humble, he noted that if Francis Crick -- who also had turned to the study of behavior -- was unable to figure it out, it was not likely that he could.

"One of his most-cited papers was a proposed model for how learning takes place at the synapses of nerve cells," said Berkeley neurobiologist David Weisblat.

That 1973 paper still influences scientists, he said, but others of Stent's theories have fallen by the wayside.

"Gunther was famous for being wrong about stuff," he said. "He loved ideas, whether they were right or wrong, as long as they led to discussion and new ideas or experiments."

Stent established a leech colony in Albany, Calif., exporting thousands of leeches to researchers around the country and using the proceeds to fund his own research. The work led to the discovery of a new anti-coagulant called hementin. Stent and his assistant Roy T. Sawyer also discovered orgelase, a product used to treat glaucoma.


This is an odd part below about wanting to join the Hitler-Youth?
Now we have Crick and Watson at Caltech.
Cool,I wonder if he ever ran into Marvel around campus or about town?
That would be too freaky!


[quote] Gunther S. StentIn the fall of 1982, the spraying of herbicides near the leech farm led to its almost complete destruction.

By then, Stent had turned to philosophy, writing a series of books that included "Paradoxes of Free Will" (2002), which won a major award from the American Philosophical Society. He also published books on morality as a biological phenomenon, prematurity in science and the end of biology.

Günter Siegmund Stensch was born March 28, 1924, in Berlin. In his 1999 self-published autobiography, "Nazis, Women and Molecular Biology: Memoirs of a Lucky Self-Hater," he describes himself as a self-hating Jew who longed to join the Hitler Youth.

Instead, he fled Germany in 1938 to join his sister in Chicago, becoming a naturalized citizen in 1945, when he legally changed his name to Gunther Stent.

He enrolled at the University of Illinois and earned a bachelor's in chemistry. After the war, he returned to Berlin briefly to screen technical documents for the military.

He earned his doctorate in chemistry at Illinois in 1948 and, after several postdoctoral positions, spent his entire career at Berkeley.

His first wife, the former Ingrid Loftsdottir, died in 1993.

Stent is survived by his second wife, Mary Ulam; a son, Stefan Stent of Washington, D.C.; and two stepsons, Alexander Ulam and Joseph Ulam.

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la- ... ory?page=1

"The Phage Group"
I like that,its catchy!
a new avenue to explore.
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